Open Lettur from Disgruntled Player regarding Plant Control

[Riverdusk]

On 9/13/2025 at 6:45 AM, Tankshock said:

Just found this.  I thoroughly appreciate all the devs do to keep this game alive, and in no way empathize with the rage quit.  But the OP is spot on with the nerfs.  I have several toons that I'm no longer interested in playing now, due to Adaptive.  Seeds, Carrion, and Rad Therapy changes have just made the builds boring and uninteresting.  These weren't by any stretch my go-to toons for feeling uber, either.  They were just good and fun, and now they aren't.  

Makes me a little sad, but there are plenty of other toons to play.  Just really question the wisdom of nerfing something so that it isn't fun anymore, esp when it was far from OP.  And yes, I thoroughly read the dev notes and tried to play the toons, so please don't come at me just for being disappointed.  

 

You might try electric control, after its buffs to me it feels closer to the old plant currently.  My new 'main' controller now is an electric/dark that does very well, imo.  Although I still miss the 'crunchy' feel that carrion creepers had with plant.  It's hard to recreate the cool 'feeling' plant had.

 

Of course wouldn't be surprised they go back and nerf electric control at some point next.  Need to make sure to keep the OP controllers that are taking over the game in line!  (yes, sarcasm).

[tidge]

On 9/10/2025 at 5:38 PM, Ukase said:

II'm not sure I understand why anyone would play a dominator in lieu of a controller. For stamina? That's easy to get. For status protection - my controllers only had to deal with mez when they were farming master illusionists for that kill the pets they have badge. Dominators - at least the way I play them - are not as good as controllers, and it's not even close. Don't forget, a controller can use the lockdown proc and lockdown bosses on the first attack just like a dom. And even if they miss it, the tools are there to handle it. So, yeah, my take is - don't know what it was like before, but the dom plant set is not that good compared to control plant set. Take that for whatever inf you can get for it. 

 

I feel like adding: I feel similar about Controllers v. Dominators. I can build both, both play well for me, but I find Controllers to be much more fun than Dominators. Much of the feels are certainly due towards building for perma-dom as it limits the design space for me (for any given Dominator combo). Without perma-dom, DOminators are somewhat meh, with permadom they feel like narrowly specialized Controllers.

[DarionLeonidas]

On 6/11/2025 at 3:48 PM, Nayeh said:

 

Welcome to the Ongoing Tragedy of "Fixing What Ain't Broke".
 

This is how many of us felt since way back in Issue 4 (or so) of Live with Travel Power Suppression and its ugly twin, Enhancement Nerfification.

 

I hope your letter gave you some comfort; I wish I could say it would restore things, but if I said I believed it would, I would be lying to you.

 

Honestly, I've resolved myself to just being grateful for the miracle that we have the game back, at all.  The Admins run it without pay and I am assuming the changes they make are based on much more than just "play balancing". Stability, server loads, keeping 20-year-old code running smoothly, and tons of other stuff I can't even imagine, and all of this on volunteer time. And they still manage to re-skin powers to give us "new" powersets, costumes, and even a populated zone.

 

Yeah, it sucks to have a power you're used to get radically changed, but at least it's still there.

 

My only real complaint is that the Admins, like the Devs of Live before them, pay way too much attention to Beta Server playtesters. This is a very thin slice of the player population who are enjoying a hugely disproportionate influence on the game overall.

 

But like I said: At least the game is back.

[Elizabeth Ashlee]

When you have a moment, test out your seeds of confusion. I can't confirm anything but it "feels" much better than it has in recent weeks. Could be placebo on my part but it does seem vastly improved as of today on the same enemies I had issues with last week.