Bots/Time vs Bots/Traps tankermind?

[MalphiteMeIRL]

Trying to decide between bots/traps or bots/traps for a tankermind build. What are some of the pros and cons to each?

[kelly Rocket]

You want /Traps for the Tankermind build. If you weren't going Tankermind, I'd definitely say Time, but Tankermind you absolutely HAVE to have mez protection, and Time doesn't provide that, while Traps does.

[MalphiteMeIRL]

With time I was thinking Clarion + possibly RoP would be enough mez prot. Is this not the case? (That said prior to 50 it would have issues vs CC)

 

Btw I appreciate the input, on paper time seems monstrous but in practice things can be different.

[kelly Rocket]

Clarion is a Destiny slot power, that's the second to last slot that's even been implemented, so you're talking about doing the whole game to 50 and then also tha vast majority of the Incarnate content without it.

 

Rune of Protection can only be brought to 90 out of 120 uptime, and that's at the absolute recharge cap.

 

Sooo...

[Rebel230]

What is a tankermind build? Does anyone have the build in in pines or can copy paste it so I can see, my bots/traps is 47. Thank you

[SmalltalkJava]

I don’t have a build.  But from reading the forums both are really strong in group and solo.  it’s kind of a pick your poison type of deal. 

[Nyghtmaire]

What is a tankermind build? Does anyone have the build in in pines or can copy paste it so I can see, my bots/traps is 47. Thank you

 

A “tankermind” is a style of bots/traps build that soft caps positional defenses and uses provoke to keep attention on the mastermind rather than the pets. The mez protection is important to avoid ... well... mezzes. I don’t have a build anymore, but if you search for Plainguy’s posts on the old forums, you can find a couple for any primary paired with traps. It should be a little easier now to build for this in Homecoming.

[plainguy]

What is a tankermind build? Does anyone have the build in in pines or can copy paste it so I can see, my bots/traps is 47. Thank you

 

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Level 50 Magic Mastermind

Primary Power Set: Robotics

Secondary Power Set: Traps

Power Pool: Fighting

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Leadership

Power Pool: Presence

Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

 

Villain Profile:

Level 1: Battle Drones

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (15) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
  
• (15) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
  
• (19) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (19) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
  
• (25) Blood Mandate - Damage
  

Level 1: Web Grenade

• (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (3) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance
  
• (3) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize
  
• (5) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range
  
• (5) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize
  
• (7) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
  

Level 2: Caltrops

• (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown
  
• (9) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  

Level 4: Triage Beacon

• (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (7) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (9) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
  
• (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
  
• (25) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  
• (27) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
  

Level 6: Boxing

• (A) Accuracy IO
  

Level 8: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 10: Acid Mortar

• (A) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff
  
• (11) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
  
• (13) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (13) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (46) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (46) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
  

Level 12: Maneuvers

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  
• (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  
• (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  

Level 14: Tough

• (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  
• (45) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  

Level 16: Force Field Generator

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  
• (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  
• (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
  

Level 18: Tactics

• (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  
• (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  
• (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  
• (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
  
• (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  
• (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  

Level 20: Poison Trap

• (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
  
• (21) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (21) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
  
• (23) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  
• (23) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
  

Level 22: Weave

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  
• (48) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  

Level 24: Provoke

• (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt
  
• (43) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge
  
• (43) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge/Range
  
• (45) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (48) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range
  
• (48) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
  

Level 26: Equip Robot

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 28: Seeker Drones

• (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (29) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun
  
• (29) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance
  
• (31) Stupefy - Stun/Range
  
• (31) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
  
• (31) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback
  

Level 30: Protector Bots

• (A) Blood Mandate - Damage
  
• (37) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (39) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
  
• (39) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
  
• (39) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (40) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
  

Level 32: Assault Bot

• (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
  
• (33) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (33) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura
  
• (34) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (34) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (34) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 35: Trip Mine

• (A) Obliteration - Damage
  
• (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  
• (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  

Level 38: Upgrade Robot

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 41: Dark Embrace

• (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
  

Level 44: Oppressive Gloom

• (A) Rope A Dope - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (50) Rope A Dope - Endurance/Stun
  

Level 47: Super Speed

• (A) Celerity - +Stealth
  

Level 49: Soul Storm

• (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (50) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (50) Devastation - Damage/Recharge
  

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Supremacy

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Hurdle

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Health

• (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  
• (45) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
  

Level 2: Stamina

• (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  
• (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  
• (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

• (A) Empty
  

Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon

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My toon, tested and I farmed with it back in the day.

 

Double triage beacon.

 

You basically trip mine, provoke and just continue to drop trip mines at your feet. using the keypad controls works best and you need to add stay on the period key to keep the pets behind you as you provoke and not to have them chasing mobs. 

Once you hit Zero numpad key for all mobs just hit 7 key to attack a mob.. and then you just need to stick to hitting Period key to stay and then 7 to attack.

 

Provoke, Trip mine, 7 key, period key, Trip mine, Provoke, 7 key, period key.

 

Its usually mobs behind you. Caltrops at tip of triage beacon triangle,  You standing on triage beacon, Pets also getting hit by triage beacon, Just keep dropping Caltrops to keep the mobs moving. It will force them to move. But then your provoke will pull them back. Oppressive gloom works as a stun AND another form of aggro on you. 

 

Force field generator has to be behind you as well, because it will get aggro as well. when you get too many mobs.