TheMoneyMaker Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 hours ago, arcane said: Literally false btw Correct, though I think nekkidtruth meant not customizable in that you can set areas like eyes, head, gloves, body, etc. Some of these have multiple settings that fit in the theme, you can only pick one setting and it's pretty much the whole body or nothing.
golstat2003 Posted February 17 Posted February 17 4 hours ago, nekkidtruth said: 🙄 Whatever issue/limitation was easily overcome elsewhere (and before the dev here even attempted it after it was requested). I'm sorry but these B.S. excuses just don't cut it anymore. as mentioned only a dev can confirm.
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 18 hours ago, arcane said: Literally false btw I'm happy to be wrong? Feel free to actually explain instead of being so dismissive.
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 14 hours ago, golstat2003 said: as mentioned only a dev can confirm. Except both a dev from here and devs from elsewhere have all explained it possible and in the case of the latter, implemented it. So I'm not sure what you're looking for here?
Rudra Posted February 17 Posted February 17 31 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Except both a dev from here and devs from elsewhere have all explained it possible and in the case of the latter, implemented it. So I'm not sure what you're looking for here? The problem with "devs from elsewhere have" said is that the the devs here have already stated they won't be taking anything from the other servers so that argument won't be accepted and also because (to the best of my knowledge) version of the game being run by those other devs have gotten unstable from their simply throwing things into the game and kuldging them to work no matter how much it disrupts their own game. And I personally don't want that to happen here. 2
arcane Posted February 17 Posted February 17 48 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: I'm happy to be wrong? Feel free to actually explain instead of being so dismissive. Sure, see example: “Effect: Shocking” gives you access to all of these auras, in addition to color customization. I find them far cooler than the standard lightning aura, and even better when combined with it for 2 different colors.
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 11 minutes ago, arcane said: Sure, see example: “Effect: Shocking” gives you access to all of these auras, in addition to color customization. I find them far cooler than the standard lightning aura, and even better when combined with it for 2 different colors. Ok so, is that the case for all of the Auras purchasable using PA's? Also, I didn't say these auras weren't different, just that changing colors on these auras is not "heavily customizable". I still stand by that statement. I will however concede that the aura you cherry picked has more animation options than the one I did.
Rudra Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Ok so, is that the case for all of the Auras purchasable using PA's? Also, I didn't say these auras weren't different, just that changing colors on these auras is not "heavily customizable". I still stand by that statement. I will however concede that the aura you cherry picked has more animation options than the one I did. That one aura has twelve options for it before you even get to choosing the colors. That is heavily customizable.
arcane Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Ok so, is that the case for all of the Auras purchasable using PA's? Also, I didn't say these auras weren't different, just that changing colors on these auras is not "heavily customizable". I still stand by that statement. I will however concede that the aura you cherry picked has more animation options than the one I did. I will refrain from posting 16 screenshots and say yes, they vary in number of options available. Usually they line up with what’s available in an armor set. For instance you have animations for all three of Electric Armor’s shield toggles here.
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 29 minutes ago, Rudra said: The problem with "devs from elsewhere have" said is that the the devs here have already stated they won't be taking anything from the other servers so that argument won't be accepted and also because (to the best of my knowledge) version of the game being run by those other devs have gotten unstable from their simply throwing things into the game and kuldging them to work no matter how much it disrupts their own game. And I personally don't want that to happen here. Except once again, a dev here already demo'd the ability. The limitation he was referring to wasn't even related to adding an additional aura. It was specifically due to the fact that he attempted to add 30 items to the overall list of items in the character customization menu. Something that isn't and wasn't even being requested. I seriously feel like some people around here are deliberately obtuse. This doesn't disrupt your game. You can relax 🙄 1 1
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 1 minute ago, Rudra said: That one aura has twelve options for it before you even get to choosing the colors. That is heavily customizable. So to be as obtuse as you've been, we're just talking about one aura with this heavy customizability?
Rudra Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Except once again, a dev here already demo'd the ability. The limitation he was referring to wasn't even related to adding an additional aura. It was specifically due to the fact that he attempted to add 30 items to the overall list of items in the character customization menu. Something that isn't and wasn't even being requested. I seriously feel like some people around here are deliberately obtuse. This doesn't disrupt your game. You can relax 🙄 Kindly note that I didn't address the "dev here" part. I only addressed the "devs elsewhere" part. I did that for a reason. Because the devs here can do whatever they please, but dev statements from other versions of the game don't fly here. 2 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: So to be as obtuse as you've been, we're just talking about one aura with this heavy customizability? Just the one example aura has 12 aura options that we can further customize with our color selections. What are you looking for before you are willing to accept something as not just colors for customization?
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, arcane said: I will refrain from posting 16 screenshots and say yes, they vary in number of options available. Usually they line up with what’s available in an armor set. For instance you have animations for all three of Electric Armor’s shield toggles here. When I went on the test server, I admittedly grabbed the aura that I wanted, to test. My only option was change it's color. So if I'm missing something (as it's become obvious that I must be), I'd appreciate a bit more detail and or direction. Because the vague back and forth instead of flat out educating is becoming tiresome. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
arcane Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Just now, nekkidtruth said: When I went on the test server, I admittedly grabbed the aura that I wanted, to test. My only option was change it's color. So if I'm missing something (as it's become obvious that I must be), I'd appreciate a bit more detail and or direction. Because the vague back and forth instead of flat out educating is becoming tiresome. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Okay hang tight and I’ll get you the details.
Rudra Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Just now, nekkidtruth said: 5 minutes ago, arcane said: I will refrain from posting 16 screenshots and say yes, they vary in number of options available. Usually they line up with what’s available in an armor set. For instance you have animations for all three of Electric Armor’s shield toggles here. When I went on the test server, I admittedly grabbed the aura that I wanted, to test. My only option was change it's color. So if I'm missing something (as it's become obvious that I must be), I'd appreciate a bit more detail and or direction. Because the vague back and forth instead of flat out educating is becoming tiresome. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Then maybe say which aura that is so others don't have to go through all the new auras to show you what can be customized?
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rudra said: Kindly note that I didn't address the "dev here" part. I only addressed the "devs elsewhere" part. I did that for a reason. Because the devs here can do whatever they please, but dev statements from other versions of the game don't fly here. Just the one example aura has 12 aura options that we can further customize with our color selections. What are you looking for before you are willing to accept something as not just colors for customization? Whether you believe other devs outside of HC hold any merit or not is besides the point. You have already stated you don't really know or understand the differences between HC's underlying code and the others, whereas I have at least a little bit of direct knowledge. I can assure you, there is merit with regard to the other devs work and functionality. At the end of the day, I don't believe either of the devs need you or I to defend them or their abilities. Unless you have a valid reason for shitting on the thread with delusional cries of messing with your game, do you have anything of value to add? Because once again, adding a second aura option in the character customization screen literally does not ruin your game play. So....you're good. Edited February 17 by nekkidtruth
arcane Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Here is the complete list of your options. So yes, some are only color customizable I guess. Effect: Chill Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Darkness Original Color Tintable No Fade Or Pulse Soul Noir Soul Noir With Eyes Murky Cloud Murky Cloud Tintable Cloak Of Fear Cloak Of Fear Tintable Effect: Drone Original Color Tintable Effect: Earthen Original Color Tintable Lava Crystal Color Tintable Minimal Lava Minimal Crystal Minimal Effect: Entropic Original Bright Energy Dark Energy Energy Glow Effect: Flames Original Bright Fire Dark Fire Original Flames Bright Flames Dark Flames Effect: Ghost Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Luminous Original Color Tintable Color Tintable With No Bubble Eye Aura Eye Aura Tintable Effect: Organic Original Color Tintable Effect: Photosynthesis Original Color Tintable Overgrowth Original Overgrowth Tintable All Original All Tintable Effect: Psionic Original Bright Dark Effect: Puncture Original Color Tintable Thorns Metal Spikes Crystalline Spines Slate Spines Effect: Reflection Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Shadow Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Shocking Original Villainous Charged Bright Charged Dark Charged Heroic Conductive Villainous Conductive Bright Conductive Dark Conductive Heroic Static Villainous Static Bright Static Dark Static Effect: Umbral Original Color Tintable Color Tintable With No Bubble Eye Aura Eye Aura Tintable 1 1
Rudra Posted February 17 Posted February 17 (edited) 12 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Whether you believe what other devs outside of HC hold any merit or not is besides the point. The devs here have already stated they will not be taking anything from the other servers. 12 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Your have already stated you don't really know or understand the differences between HC's underlying code and the other, whereas I have at least a little bit of direct knowledge. I did not state that I don't really know know or understand the differences between HC and the other servers' underlying code. What I stated was that to the best of my knowledge the other servers are unstable because of the changes the devs there have done. I don't play on those other servers, so I can't know for sure how unstable they are, only what I hear from others that do play on those servers. 12 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: At the end of the day, I don't believe either of the devs need you or I to defend them or their abilities. I am not attempting to defend the devs or their abilities. I was pointing out that it does not matter what any dev from any other version of the game says, the devs here are only interested in what they can do as per what they themselves have stated. 12 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Unless you have a valid reason for shitting on the thread I am not "shitting" on this thread. I have not even commented on this thread other than to agree that some of us are also unwilling to farm the necessary Prismatic Aethers, where other players can find auras for their characters, how they can get Prismatic Aethers for themselves, argue against an overhaul of the costume creator itself for the sole purpose of re-aligning costume parts because from experience it has always broken existing costumes, point out that the devs here have already stated they won't take from the other games, and to point out that the example aura is not just limited to color customization. So please show me where I have been shitting on this thread so that I may learn and stop. (Edit: Now if said overhaul can be done without breaking everyone's costumes? Fine. I'm for it. It would be nice for things to be alphabetical rather than somewhat alphabetical.) 12 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: Because once again, adding a second aura option in the character customization screen literally does not ruin your game play. I have not once in this entire thread argued against players getting to have multiple auras at once. Not a single time. So please show me where I did. Edited February 17 by Rudra Edited to correct "overall" to "overhaul".
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, arcane said: Here is the complete list of your options. So yes, some are only color customizable I guess. Effect: Chill Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Darkness Original Color Tintable No Fade Or Pulse Soul Noir Soul Noir With Eyes Murky Cloud Murky Cloud Tintable Cloak Of Fear Cloak Of Fear Tintable Effect: Drone Original Color Tintable Effect: Earthen Original Color Tintable Lava Crystal Color Tintable Minimal Lava Minimal Crystal Minimal Effect: Entropic Original Bright Energy Dark Energy Energy Glow Effect: Flames Original Bright Fire Dark Fire Original Flames Bright Flames Dark Flames Effect: Ghost Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Luminous Original Color Tintable Color Tintable With No Bubble Eye Aura Eye Aura Tintable Effect: Organic Original Color Tintable Effect: Photosynthesis Original Color Tintable Overgrowth Original Overgrowth Tintable All Original All Tintable Effect: Psionic Original Bright Dark Effect: Puncture Original Color Tintable Thorns Metal Spikes Crystalline Spines Slate Spines Effect: Reflection Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Shadow Original Color Tintable Minimal FX Effect: Shocking Original Villainous Charged Bright Charged Dark Charged Heroic Conductive Villainous Conductive Bright Conductive Dark Conductive Heroic Static Villainous Static Bright Static Dark Static Effect: Umbral Original Color Tintable Color Tintable With No Bubble Eye Aura Eye Aura Tintable Thanks for presenting it this way. It's definitely more customizable than I thought. I specifically tested Psionic which is one of the least customizable ones. It left a sour taste in my mouth. That being said, I was also looking for the abilities of the regular aura chosen in the character customization screen for these. My expectation and reality were obviously not aligned.
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, Rudra said: The devs here have already stated they will not be taking anything from the other servers. I did not state that I don't really know know or understand the differences between HC and the other servers' underlying code. What I stated was that to the best of my knowledge the other servers are unstable because of the changes the devs there have done. I don't play on those other servers, so I can't know for sure how unstable they are, only what I hear from others that do play on those servers. I am not attempting to defend the devs or their abilities. I was pointing out that it does not matter what any dev from any other version of the game says, the devs here are only interested in what they can do as per what they themselves have stated. I am not "shitting" on this thread. I have not even commented on this thread other than to agree that some of us are also unwilling to farm the necessary Prismatic Aethers, where other players can find auras for their characters, how they can get Prismatic Aethers for themselves, argue against an overhaul of the costume creator itself for the sole purpose of re-aligning costume parts because from experience it has always broken existing costumes, point out that the devs here have already stated they won't take from the other games, and to point out that the example aura is not just limited to color customization. So please show me where I have been shitting on this thread so that I may learn and stop. (Edit: Now if said overhaul can be done without breaking everyone's costumes? Fine. I'm for it. It would be nice for things to be alphabetical rather than somewhat alphabetical.) I have not once in this entire thread argued against players getting to have multiple auras at once. Not a single time. So please show me where I did. I don't have the time nor the energy to reply to each individual rebuttal. In one breath you claim " to the best of your knowledge" then claim you never said you didn't know anything, and then proceed to make statements like "other servers are unstable" solidifying the fact you actually don't know anything at all about either code base. Shitting on the thread was harsh on my part. I was irritated and all of the posts are starting to blend together. Ultimately, adding the second aura neither breaks the UI or makes the game "unstable". My request was for a dev to provide a genuine reason for this not being implemented and I was hit with an array of B.S. answers from non-devs. I apologize for saying you shit on the thread. 1
Rudra Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: I don't have the time nor the energy to reply to each individual rebuttal. In one breath you claim " to the best of your knowledge" then claim you never said you didn't know anything, and then proceed to make statements like "other servers are unstable" solidifying the fact you actually don't know anything at all about either code base. You're still twisting my comment, but I'm not going to argue this further. If you're good with dropping this, I am too.
Seed22 Posted February 17 Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, nekkidtruth said: My request was for a dev to provide a genuine reason for this not being implemented and I was hit with an array of B.S. answers from non-devs Yeah thats the suggestions forums. 1 Aspiring show writer through AE arcs and then eventually a script 😛 AE Arcs: Odd Stories-Arc ID: 57289| An anthology series focusing on some of your crazier stories that you'd save for either a drunken night at Pocket D or a mindwipe from your personal psychic.|The Pariahs: Magus Gray-Arc ID: 58682| Magus Gray enlists your help in getting to the bottom of who was behind the murder of the Winter Court.|
nekkidtruth Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Just now, Rudra said: You're still twisting my comment, but I'm not going to argue this further. If you're good with dropping this, I am too. I didn't twist anything. You yourself said those things. And for the record, if you read the entire post, I actually apologized for saying you shit on the thread.
Rudra Posted February 17 Posted February 17 Just now, nekkidtruth said: I didn't twist anything. You yourself said those things. And for the record, if you read the entire post, I actually apologized for saying you shit on the thread. *sigh* I'm just walking away. I saw the apology. Thanks for the apology. That was why I thumbs up'ed that post. I'm not up to arguing over what boils down to nothing. 1
Game Master GM Crumpet Posted February 18 Game Master Posted February 18 Yeesh. This thread is old. And getting hairy. I'll lock it for now unless someone like Number six wants it to remain open. 1 1
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