Neiska

The in game numbers on Savage can deceptive. Sure they are small but there’s a steady stream of them, and iirc it’s in the top 5 for pylon times. Bio/EM is my main tank, it hits fantastically hard. Fire is definitely also quite good and well balanced. Also in the top times.

Nice to see you back from Vacation @Snarky!

@tidgeis correct about what I meant. Not all mm primaries have powers you can put the pet uni’s into. It would have been great if you could do it for Maintenance Drone, as an example. Would go a long way to put all the MMs on equal footing, not in respect to other ATs but in respect to each other. Most of the updates were great, I only disliked the robot one for reasons previously mentioned, and I feel bad for Beasts entirely. They just flat out got left in the dust.

Respectfully agree to disagree. The Drone is nice, but I don't care much for the rest. The Assault bot doesn't as good as it was before, but the T1 and T2's were better. But my main complaint isn't the damage. People do a lot with less. And I get why they moved the -regen, they wanted to make Robot MMs both "smoother" in damage spread out among pets so it wasn't all in the T3, and to try and encourage MM personal attacks with added effects, be it buffs or debuffs. But having all your damage in your T3 wasn't entirely bad either, it made the other pets less mandatory to use. You could just use your T3 on teams and it wouldn't affect your damage as much. But now? You kind of have to use all the pets in every situation. My issue with the current bots is no matter what AT, build, or powers taken, is that each build has the same amount of powers, and the same amount of slots. And some of the MM sets, like Robots, Necro, etc already are pretty slot-starved with all the pet aura IOs and the like, plus the pet slots, plus the buff slots, plus whatever else you want to fit in from Epic pools yadda yadda. IMO either all pet sets should have mule powers, like Gang War/Hell On Earth, or none of them should and force them all to squeeze it in somewhere. Even now with the changes, I never see Thug or Demon MMs use their personal attacks very much. The effects are just too small for the slots required to make it worth using. And, depending on secondary, you often have much better options. The other irony is the primaries that could use the slots the most, are the ones without mule powers. In short - its a further slot tax, as if MMs weren't already kind of playing at a handicap as it was, as far as damage/end cost for powers are concerned. It just feels like their only concern was damage, and nothing else. And I think we all would agree that is only one small part of the puzzle. So IMO, damage is "smoother", but not "better", and everything else such as moving inherent debuffs around and making someone have to spend slots/power picks to use them "worse." Some people like it. And that's fine. Personally, I hate it, and have pretty much shelved all my Robot MMs, not just the mutibox ones. Still have other MM tricks I keep entirely to myself, one of those "if you know you know" things because I expect if I shared those tidbits they would be on the chopping block next.

Also works for multiple Demon MMs as well, their resist buffs all stack with each other. But the Thug toggles doesn't affect the MM themselves, only other thug MM pets. I do believe it's the same with Demons resist buffs.

3 boxing robots is still possible, but not as good as before. Besides having to more focus on personal attacks, the fire patch doesn’t seem to do as much damage as before. My robot AE clear times take almost 4 minutes longer than it took before the revamp. Nowdays if I 3 box MMs, I box 3 demon MMs. It takes almost the same amount of time, and it’s far easier with far tougher pets. I can go full AFK in some cases. So long as my pets stay in heal and buff range, I’m golden. In my opinion the robot change was all around bad if you multibox, and I don’t really think they shine as a stand alone anymore either, but let’s not get into all that. As far as secondaries go, well you really can make any 3 work. I recommend Time, Electric, Forcefield for ease of play, Kinetics for big damage boost etc. Cant speak about Marine, have yet to try it.

Boy oh boy, this topic can only go to great places. I better get my popcorn!🍿 If it bothers you that much, you can always just quit the team. Usually the best option if other people play in a way you don’t like, vs them trying to make you play it their way or you making them play it yours.

I hope you have an energizer bunny theme!

What's stopping you from self-imposing it via honor system? Make a character, you die, delete everything and start over. You could even keep a log in the forums for people who might be interested in a hardcore ironman start to finish. I bet it would be a good read.

No I haven't, that was on my todo list before I moved onto other things. But provoke/placate were both on the list, as well as look at paetron pools for possible immobilize/hold abilities to browse too. I still have my widows, just haven't played them in awhile. But when I did i went for a "money is no object" build. Shes still one of my most expensive builds i think. Mostly just wanted to see what could be done and how far you can push it, just for funsies.

I love widows, my only two big gripes is how their resists are all over the place, and runners. Wish they had a tool for runners. But everything else? The damage, the style, the nukes, the spinny, even the tush capes is *chiefs kiss* I even love their metallic cloth costume option.

Holy necrothread Batman! 5 years is impressive 😆

Well IIRC, the Legend of Dragoon all the hero's had different element types - Dart was Fire, and so on. So any of the elemental armors could work. Rose had a "dark" element. Only Albert used a Spear though, as they all had various weapon types. So I would say you could really mix any weapon type and element type that you like. Dual blades is neat, War Mace and Battle Axe I hear is very stronk. Titan weapons is powerful but some don't like how awkward it feels to play. Far as secondary? Well Shield has some pretty neat models, but you can only take shield with certain weapon types. Rad armor is very good, but the powers can be tricky to color right as it is a bit cluttered. There's always Bio Armor if you want something more organic-feeling too. So there is a lot you can do if you are looking for style. Far as synergies, staff and bio both have stances, so you have options there. Dark Armor is good but very END hungry. Ice Armor is solid all around good. Bio Armor is very strong but it takes a bit to get there and likes to focus on recharge above all. I have never had an endgame staff fighting, but I believe it sort of lacks single target damage? (could be mistaken here.) If that's the case you can plan accordingly and take an armor set that helps boost offense a bit too. Shield also has that "charge" ability, which would fit the theme I think of jumping/leaping into enemies too. You can't take it with staff though.

I generally take "tier lists" and the like with a large pile of salt. Other people are entitled to their opinions certainly, but I am not obligated to agree or even care. Oh, and Merry Christmas.

I use Levi for my crabby, as that -res stacks with venom grenade and having a lot of cones evaporates groups. Still a little meh on single target but that’s kind of crabbys downside overall.

IMO, what’s “the best” greatly depends on the rest of the team makeup, the activity in question, and perhaps most importantly, player skill and knowledge. What powers you have and how much you spent is moot if you don’t have any clue what you are doing or how to play it, and how to synergies with your team. If we are talking the hardest content here, maximum difficulty, it really isn’t about “you” alone, but how the team plays together. And personally, the harder content I’m doing, the more I tend to favor debuffs. Just a personal preference mind you, as the right debuffs are king in that kind of content.

This is why I always add a merit into the mail with the inf, because it’s account bound. So it always goes to the correct account.

"Madness may not be a break-down, it may also be a break-through." - R.D. Laing

If you don’t like running repeat activities, there is probably over 100 ae missions. Even if you did them only once there would be enough of them for you to reach 50 on multiple characters without doing anything twice.

Could be better, but it could be a lot worse too. Just remember that unless they have a “HC staff” by their name, anything said is just their opinion. And to be taken with a grain of salt.

You do your thing, I’ll do mine. They aren’t the same? Who cares. Nothing says we have to play together or enjoy the same things. Do support a boot timer though. I’ve returned to ae over the period of a few days and still see the same guy there firing off his auto power.

Clearly regen needs to be nerfed!

I half expected there to be a sudden market selling names. Still might happen, like way back when people were snatching up company names when the internet got popular. People grabbed company .com names and were selling them. No idea how successful they were in that.

This kind of makes me want to make to most annoying AT possible. Controller with group fly, fold space, and knock back. Unsure what else. Just for giggles.

How about we let people play how they like without lecturing them how they like to play is the incorrect way? Can we try that? You want to stay? Great! Have fun! You want to go? Great! Have fun! Team members disagree? Find new team members who like to play the same way as you do. For the record, and feel free to quote me here, but the only thing that I “have” to do is put in my password when I log in. After that everything else is 100% my decision. If I want to stay or go, team or solo, farm or yolo, I’ll do whatever I damn well please. Long as I’m not breaking any rules (and I’m not) if you don’t like it than you and anyone else who doesn’t like it can kiss me where the good lord split me. (Not meaning anyone specifically by “you”, speaking rhetorically here for context.) tldr - you do your thing, I do mine. If that involves us not teaming together I’m perfectly fine with that. I would sooner play entirely by myself than be held to the standards of entirely random strangers in a video game.