Voltak

You seem con conflate another issue and another statement which no one said in order to argue vs me. It's not going to work. I never talked about impossible things. I only said that it is a fact that now the ITF is more of a challenge since the present challenge which was not present before is that Cimerorans are harder to hit than they were before THey have higher defenses so it is more of a challenge to hit them That's not at all saying they are impossible. If you could more easily hit them before and now they are harder to hit, that's a challenge now, the challenge to kill them or hit them. In your scenario, of the ALL shield ITF, you had a challenge : Your challenge was to kill them. In order to kill them you had to hit them. Since you could not hit them because now the challenge to hit is more difficult than before , then you failed the challenge, again, the challenge to kill them. You are the one with the mission to complete the ITF, if you cannot complete it because you can't kill cimerorans, then you failed. Another Shield/Rad duo combo could hit them after the debuffs set in. They succeeded and met the challenge and did it. You failed, and they did not. Have a good one.

Look up @Voltak2 In the AE system Linea and I have both done both, his and mine. Mine are just a bit higher diff level than his. But still a challenge if you ever want to find a team to do so

I agree 100% with him on the therapy or meditation idea here. I personally find this to be the way in my case some times

😄😄😄😄😂😂😂😂 Oh, man. This is therapy indeed Well, from one such similar soul ( although I can come out of the closet and say the same ) That's one of the reasons I did the games first and only dominator to solo the MoITF Some may say this is insane but I found therapy in doing it

I was astonished to see a stone tanker doing that. But then I took a very hard look at Proc Bot's build (it's here in the forums). That proc bot is a true monster

I fixed the post He still beat your time And it was a speed run, since in our chnl we go and try to beat times for these challenging settings Use of Lores is a huge key

" Fine. Nor is the fact that the ITF is less fun for me now to the point I don't bother soloing it at all when it was my goto meditation time in game. " Ok, I do admit , you had me laughing here. Meditation time... Damn, that was good. Kudos It's not about screwing the soloist, brother. Shield defense should have what they have now, like players have it too. Rad melee toons have less problems hitting. Different ATs won't even notice this too much since they have defense debuffs as well. About the tank solo Please read above , my previous post. Thanks for the smile, bud. Sincerely

Missing proves that there is an added challenge. The challenge is actually being able to hit them. They have more defenses so obviously they present a new challenge. If they are more difficult to hit than before then it is more challenging to defeat them. This is not even up for debate

You contradict yourself in the same post. 1. "... now because of all the missing " - admitting that it is more challenging now to hit those enemies , thus admitting as well that the ITF is more challenging 2. But you also deny that the ITF is more of a challenge now.

Correction here I contacted Nova Nova himself gave me the info I confused the number I saw on the channel message of the day on the day I saw it The TWO TANKS time is 36 mins The SOLO tank is one hour and 20 minutes

I am very well aware of the fix to Shield defense, and it is working now as it always should have. I possessed no hard evidence of the buff/resists differences , just in our chnl sinc we run this on the regular Analyzer is a great tool for sure

@Nova's tanker Stone/Super Str Did the ITF, 54 x8, no insps, no temps allowed, no deaths 36 minutes *** before the fix to Shield defense for Cimerorans ***

ITF done since the fix to cimerorans

Thank you, Moon. Is there a definitive source you have for that ?

THis was really a fix. Shield Defense set is supposed to do what is doing now but was not doing before. If players now running shield did not get the effects that shield defense is supposed to do, they would be reporting that here in the forums and writing support tickets so they can fix that. Well, that coin has two sides. IT should be fixed for you as a player and it should be fixed for them since they also have shield defense sets. THis obviously presents a challenge and challenges are fun. You were playing before under a system that was broken and was not granting a buff that should have been there since day 1 of the ITF. It was way easier to do it before and because it is way easier before THAT WAS boring ANything too easy is boring The fun is in the challenge

THis is covered in the video for sure.

A very close to perfect run accomplishment, in one of the most difficult settings available. One practical piece of evidence why Defenders are the strongest archetypes in all of City of Heroes.

In comparison with many other sets... I can totally relate to that

that is my global

Excelsior server was this one above :)

HD Quality Video. Give it time for YouTube to process the higher resolution We sure had a refreshing blast It was the first time we ran an all Water blast theme in the ITF I volunteered to record and publish the video and some screen shots The video is being processed at YouTube and it should be ready soon Pictures will be at the bottom of this post

All right, We finally did some live testing. I wholeheartedly thank Cenozoic for helping me do these tests, which I hope benefit everyone. These are the results. There are bad news and there are good news. Lvl 54 AV certainly was permanently held , no question. Shooting for a mag 60+ or greater is key as far as holds. You definitely want to see in the power analyzer a NEGATIVE 10 status protection on the Lvl 54 AV (they start off with +50) The AV at lvl 54 sheds off the magnitudes of those holds very quickly. That brings us to the bad news. We observed that you have to make a choice 1) you permanently hold the AV or 2). You proceed to kill the AV SOLO, we cannot seem to do both. It's either 1 or 2. If you proceed with number 2, you must have 1) an attack chain that does more damage than the regen of the AV happens to protect the health of the AV 2) if you still intend to permanently hold the AV while doing number 1, your whole attack chain ( to include your hold power) must be fast enough to keep up with how fast the AV sheds off your hold magnitudes. In the test, it was not accomplished, and so far, no evidence has been provided that doing both solo is possible. So you choose to permanently hold the AV OR You proceed to kill the AV Not both. At some points in the test the status protection was -10 , and given that the AV can shed 6 magnitudes extremely fast ( in a matter of 2 secs or 3 secs), if your attack chain takes longer than that before you cycle again to the hold, then time is against you and the AV will break free because all the AV needs is to go from negative 10 to Zero magnitude hold on the AV to be able to break free if no hold is currently on the AV and once the AV reaches +1 status protection , the 54 AV is attacking and hitting hard. The magnitudes are being shed by 6 (which is one mag 3 hold x 2) in a matter of a few seconds (2-3). If the AV reaches status protection of negative 10 protection, then in 5 -7 seconds with no additional holds thrown in, that AV can reach +1 and at that point the AV is free, as long as the triangles are back up again. IF the triangles are down, the AV is still helpless if there is a lingering hold on the AV. These tests were done with a Mind dominator who has arguable the fastest animation hold in the game, so the odds of other dominators being able to do what no one has been able to prove, not even a Mind Dom, those odds are even worse.

if I recall correctly, both

Dark / Dark will provide you many more instruments to save you and strong blend of range and melee. I have posted videos as well. Check them out for yourself 🙂 Thank you very much for the comments

My Dar/Dark dominator is the first and the only dominator to solo the ITF, at least with these difficulty settings No insps No deaths No temps 54 x 8