ZacKing

And that should tell people something.

challenge them to an arena duel!

TBH start over from scratch with it. ground up rework. the set has been nerfed way too much.

I remember one of the major reasons for the blaster AoE nerfs and purple patch was because of people nuking stuff in 1 shot. That's not stuff lasting longer.

Total nonsense and no offense but you're making "feel sorry for me excuses." the entitlement whining makes me want to puke. Why should people who can afford the time to play more not benefit from their investment? This reply sounds like a direct quote from that philosophy of failure, creed of ignorance and gospel of envy Churchill talked about. Stop blaming others and go and work for what you want. The most successful people in life at anything aren't crybabies. they work for it. get over yourself.

What has to give is the stupid idea that globally nerfing everyone to make a few feel good is going to fix the problem without pissing a large group off. It's not going to solve the problem because people are still going to hit the ceiling. people aren't soloing +4 x 8 at level 20 or 30 like they are at 50. Make new harder content balanced around high powered 50s maxxed out with IOs in mind. raise the ceiling, don't lower it. What's keeping you on that team then? You.

Except there are people suggesting that. Good try though.

how about doing what many people have suggested already and creating harder end game level content that is made for incarnates? there's already a shit ton of content for pre-50 to do.

PUGs are a different animal man. If you're a rookie getting tossed into the game with a team full of pros, what do you expect? this is why you form groups with others that have the same style of play.

Yeah man that's called socializing and being in an MMO and it works. Nerfing everyone to make everyone the same isn't a solution that suits everyone. options are.

Dude seriously, get off your high horse. I'm not your mother and I'm not going to sugar coat what I want to say just to appease you. I didn't say anyone is a bad player. I said it's a laziness problem because it is. Were people to spend a tenth of the time they do whining on the forums about feeling usless looking to form groups with people who like the same playstyle looking to form groups with people who like the same playstyle, they'd all be having tons of fun right now. Options are already available to play the game however you like. use them and stop trying to force everyone into one way of play.

No it isn't it's a player laziness issue. anybody can create the challenge they want here. what you're looking for is nerfing everyone to force them to play how you like instead of letting others do their own things. That's selfish no matter how anybody tries to hide it. You want the rewards without putting in the effort. I'd love the play in the NBA but I'm nowhere near as good as any of the pros. Should they all get nerfed so I can join and "feel useful"? sure, fix stuff that's totally broken. don't nerf people just to make the game bland.

great post!

Uhm no, it's me wanting to play with friends because we have fun together. no offense but your reply comes off as envious and jealous of others being better at the game than you. Why should people who invested more time and effort into their character have to lower themselves to your level to accommodate you? If you don't feel like you're adding anything to a team, leave the team and go find another one. plenty of teams being formed every day. there's at least a dozen people in this thread alone who look like they share your views on how to play. why don't you all team up together and go have fun the way you like? I'll answer for you - because it takes work and it's much easier to PUG it and then feel sorry for yourself and complain on the forums that nerfs are needed. you go play the way you want more power to you and I hope you have a lot of fun. let others play the way they like. No, they shouldn't. If you don't like them, don't use them and team with other people who don't like them. Problem solved.

This needs to be repeated until it sinks in. Well said and I'd upvote a million times if I could. definitely seems like we're on the road to all the same mistakes being made all over again. I guess no one learns. Hopefully the folks here will do better than Paragon did. I'm sure they're up to it.

I'm not angry at all dude. I'm curious where your response is to people crying for nerfs because someone else gains rewards faster or performs better than they do? I guess those people aren't selfish or entitled? just those of us who don't fall in line. And yeah, Regen is another great example. How many people did all those nerfs AND ED drive away from the game back in the day? Had a lot of fun playing my Regen scrapper back in the day until the nerf brigade started crying and look at where the set is now. I've yet to come across a Regen scrapper or stalker here. Look around the forums here for the posts talking about their EM characters they loved before the nerfs and how they all got shelved after. Don't those voices count too? Or should we just worry about numbers on a spreadsheet? and at least for me, I've yet to see a cogent reason for caring about balance at this point. were all this complaining about balance true, all we'd see are people playing TW toons and that's it. TW brutes or tanks are a rarity on the pugs I've been on for the past year, not the rule. The game isn't a commercial venture anymore so there's not much need to worry about people getting bored and moving on so they don't pay for stuff.

LMAO! nice try again, but no you didn't call me out on anything and I'm not bent out of shape over anything. Having fun playing a character is not the same thing as being worried about balance. I liked the animations and flow in EM before the jealous math nerd busy bodies who were overwhelmed with care concern just had to cry nerf nerf nerf! because someone played better than they did, so they screwed it for everyone. The set didn't flow the way I liked anymore. That has jack to do with caring about reward speed. I'll repeat, I could give a crap how fast you or anyone else earn rewards. So long as I'm having fun, you go have fun your way. What you do isn't important to me in the least until whiners out there start crying about nerfs that screw up my fun, then yeah I'm going to voice my opinion. and LMAO like you're the authority on any kind of game design. Far from it. You go right on trying to cancel me though.

LMAO! nice try but no. I said I didn't care about inf or merit or whatever gain being the deciding factor in what makes a character fun for me. but when stuff gets ruined because busy bodies pseudo know it alls want to start dicking with stuff because someone said it does moar dps! on a pylon run or whatever other stupidity, yeah I care.

so I'm a liar now? right. got it. No dude, I'm not a liar. but I get it. some folk just don't like others who disagree with them and feel the overwhelming urge to cancel them.

well yeah, I should care about it because you're looking to tinker with stuff that I think is just fine as it is and like the way it is. you may wind up making it suck for me.

the reward for me is fun, so I could give a hoot who can clear a map faster or earn more inf or whatever faster. I'm enjoying my character and having a good time. that's the only metric to be concerned about. just my 2 cents. trying to homogenize everything makes a game bland.

you're kinda suggesting that DPS is the ONLY metric to be worried about. It isn't. not by a longshot.

Nah no thanks

Can't say this sounds all that interesting. If we get another weapon set, I'd rather it actually you know, used the weapon for all the attacks.

yeah no, that was mostly used for separating PvP and PvE builds. they are different animals. no one I ever teamed with ever had a "solo" and "teaming" build. your soloing build should be your teaming build so you can take care of yourself and in doing that take care of the team. LMAO! so you don't tell people what to do or insult anyone then go right on saying how someone else is "ruining the game for you" and "should just be playing solo". classic! I thought you don't insult anyone? for someone who complains about others not being sociable, you don't seem to have any empathy or understanding of other people like to enjoy the game. Which is it man? Why do they need to accommodate you? why don't YOU stay in YOUR space? don't worry, we get it. the door only swings one way and the holier than thou has spoken. So it's ok for you to screw the other people on the TF by leaving the team short. Doesn't that negatively impact their play? For someone who goes on and on about "building for others" you certainly don't seem to mind screwing them over. yeah building a character that can take care of themselves is helping others. @jubakumbi is spot on about the holier than thou busy bodies here. How about this man, you play your way and let others play their way and everyone has fun that way.