Bill Z Bubba

How sweet of you. That you can't separate buff from crap to get said buff says a whole lot about you.

I do. And as others have stated, they do too.

Again, no ****. But as has been made apparent in this thread I'm not the only one that doesn't like the direction of these changes. So have your majority view. I don't give a ****. I'm gonna keep posting my displeasure regarding changes I don't agree with regardless of how folks like you would rather I just ****. Edited: Self-moderating

So feedback threads are now relegated to shut up and accept the buff regardless of how we got there. Ok.

Except for the part where you're completely wrong. I click what I like, I get an ET animation damn near 3X what I'd get without going TF/ET. I click PC and I'll hit far less enemies than if I go TF/PC.

I would LOVE for you to explain how my feedback has in any way not been on topic.

No. I don't combo systems. The current system already gives me the ability to set up TF for a 50+% chance to crit thus giving me focus on ET and BS. I still hate it. I get that a whole crapload of you are perfectly happy with this. You're the vast majority which is why I state this will be going live as is. I'm only attempting to make it quite clear to the devs that if they fark with other powersets in this manner, I'm gonna be one pissed off devil.

A basic set is a set that doesn't use combos. Adding combos makes it no longer a basic set. Because I haven't enjoyed ET since the initial nerf. I do, but I hate it, just as I hate HAVING to use TF before ET to get it back to where it was supposed to be in the first damn place. It will be different because the set will be different. An ST stun I never took now adds AoE to a set lacking AoE. An animation that was longed for is accessible but only if your play a certain way.

Please expound. I figured the rationale was "hell, it costs HP to use, why make it cost end as well?"

I won't argue this either. Great change.

See above.

What are you babbling about? I stated that the the changes are a buff over live. Full stop. I went from 4:30 pylon to 3:30 with zero changes using TF/BS/ET/BS. I'm down to 1:45 average on my em/bio scrapper on beta compared to 1:30 on my mace/bio on live.

That's not what the pylons are showing me.

And fully stated as so in my post. It doesn't need to be reiterated as such.

No, it's not. It's still inferior to warmace on both ST and AoE. And now it's got a gimped-ass dual-animation for ET that if you don't play a certain way, you get the crappy animation that should have never been added to the set in the first place.

This is a false statement. My choice of attack chain is taken away. I can do TF/ET or self-gimp. I can do TF/BS or self-gimp. I can do TF/PC or self-gimp. Self-gimping is not a choice. It's a punishment. Look, the changes are indeed a buff. Full stop. The changes screw over what was a basic, functional set for a combo system that some of us freaking hate. But we all know this is going live as is (or with minimal number alterations.) We can either roll with it or delete all of our EM users. I'll be choosing the roll with it and in some cases, it's going to be me not taking TF or ET just to avoid the combo system I neither wanted, think was wise, hate, and did what I could on the live forums to dissuade the devs from doing after the changes from closed beta got leaked. In other cases, I'll just use the TF/EP/ET/BS/EP ugly ass attack chain and live with it. My only hope at this point is that devs listen and when deciding on how to "balance" other powerset changes that they avoid this mistake.

It's bio. My claws/bio scrapper usually sits around a minute or more faster on pylon times than my claws/sr scrapper. Pretty standard slotting. Full Superior Crit Strikes in EP. Full Hecatomb in TF. Full Gladiator's Strike in ET. Superior Scrap Strike in BS. Full Armageddon set in Genetic Contamination. Ton of recharge. Edit: And it's not the damage I'm disappointed with, just the way it was done. EM didn't need gimmicks. It just needed the cast times reduced.

Best time on beta with nrgmel/bio scrapper is 1:36. Running EP/TF/EP/ET/BS/repeat. Have the scrapper +50% crit proc in EP so TF will crit more and I'll get nrg focus on both ET and BS. My mace/bio on live is still better than that with much better aoe. And I still absolutely dislike the way they went with EM. It's disappointing.

Tried it with a slapped together em/bio scrapper. Getting about 1:40 pylon time. Build needs more recharge. It works. I get around 1:30 with my mace/bio scrapper.

True but overall DPS would suffer due to lack of musculature.

So you were going with the quick ET followed by the slow ET, right?

Numerically. Artistically it's crap.

You know I gotta ask... why can't you grok the problems those are of us are having with the dual animations when you have such issues with the sound FX?

I have not. Thank you and I will with the em/bio scrapper after I get her slotted out.

40 second buff to ST damage on the em/sr brute even staying with old craptacular ET. TF/BS/ET/BS/repeat. Yes, it's a buff overall. Yay. Still leaves the shitty ridiculously long animation for ET in place unless you purposefully go TF/ET and build an ugly attack chain wasting power picks. Or go sub-optimal with TF/ET/BS/EP/Bar. Ain't gonna lie, yay for the buff. Yay for more AoE. Still hate this ET change. It's crap.