Prototech

This is my favorite lurking forum seriously. Mom and Dad fighting all the time about everything.

You just made go back to bots mm for another char. Thanks.

Isn't this just drag and drop? I set the controls to advanced then dragged the defensive for all pets icon to my bar. Is there some other benefit to making a macro for it?

How so? The white knight is the person coming out in defense of someone. Or do you mean dismissing how the white knight feels? I mean I am arguing people are overreacting and I guess that means I consider their emotions overblown, not invalid necessarily. I was painting a picture around the person stepping on the lego, it was a purposeful exaggeration for effect. I made it ridiculous so no one would take it too seriously, doesn't seem it worked out. The point is, people are way too sensitive and it's humorous they lash out and do far worse than what was initially done to them. << for sure what happens on this forum and in this thread.

The part your missing is that the person stepping on the lego isn't simply whining and grasping their foot for a minute. Instead they smack their child for leaving legos out, tell their wife they are horrible for trying to calm the situation down, retreating to bed and calling in sick to work for a week. When some reasonable individual points out this is an overreaction to simply stepping on a lego, and it's a bit ironic that the person then inflicts greater pain on others, white knights come out and go "have some empathy, telling someone not to be hurt is wrong"

This is glorious 'feel good' at its best. Respect and appreciation to you @brigg

It's called taking a deep breath and getting over it. I do it 500 times a day, it's not that difficult. We all have that initial 'I'm bothered/triggered' that's human nature, the whole conversation is about the relevant part of the equation which is how we react to it.

One of my life's goals was becoming worthy of your time. I have failed. I'm a failure.

Aw come on, I thought you could do better than that. It's so simple; why lash out if you're not offended? What does that say about someone advocating empathy? It was a simple concept, I hoped you'd be a bit more clever in your comeback.

If you didn't take offense at my post then your response reflects even more poorly on you. My assumption was in your favor.

Not at all. You took offense at my post, presumably because it lacked 'common curtesy', and called me a shit lord. So you proved that people overreact easily then proceed, in glorious irony, to be way ruder in their replies, that was my point.

Haha, when I call someone a hippie it's all about how they are super kind and chill but kinda to the point where there is nothing there. It's like everything is so equal nothing matters and like why even talk about it. So not a bad thing honestly I say it mostly as a compliment.

You're a bit of a hippie but I appreciate you. I don't disagree as much as you may think.

You're overthinking it and giving them too much credit. We can all try to do better and be more considerate, that's a given. What we have here is often incredibly rude and entitled people pretending to be victims so they can get away with nonsense must of us wouldn't ever engage in. You're also wrong about what makes someone thick skinned. It's precisely because I HAVE gone through a lot that I'm thick skinned. The internet is full of people who could not survive the harshness of the real world so they demand special consideration online. I sympathize and try to be more considerate as a default, but it doesn't mean we need to let them play the bully in turn for some kind of 'balance'.

Thanks for proving my point so perfectly.

There should be no requirement for a normal individual to constantly worry about thin skinned and frail people. The level of sensitivity in this thread is almost nauseating. And there's the irony too of going after people that offend you with far stronger language and aggression than they used... It's like any perceived offense permits limitless retaliation. The game is then to act flawless until an affront is found then freely unleash without reservation. I mean I try to be mindful, I really do, but the weak will be meek and no amount of bending the knee will really help. I hope all of you can grow into more rounded people and maybe try to pick a fight in the real world instead, that high will hopefully mellow you out for harmless online forums so the rest of us don't have to worry about causing PTSD or mental collapses when just chatting away like normal humans. This is not directed at anyone in particular, too many cry babies in this thread blending together.

Ironically often full of privileged wimps. It's super counter intuitive but the best way to avoid trigger warnings and outrage is to find a hardcore LGBTQ group that does not give a F**K, it's like gaming with a bunch of frat boys in the 90s the way the conversation goes sometimes. Of course you have to be able to handle conquest stories not just involving women but I got used to that pretty quick haha.

Definitely some douchey dudes in the community, not too common from what I see though. I have to watch out for the opposite, as you can see in this thread there are members in the community who's real life can be shaken to the core if you say the wrong thing. Be really careful talking in chat, the most innocent debate or challenge can turn into some mental health nightmare for certain individuals in the community.

This thread is absolutely hilarious 🙂 OP I think there is a mix here in defensive responses and 'I am just so knowledgeable about how complex this is there is no answer to anything'. To be fair, it's hard to answer and I think people retreat into the 'I need more information' corner rather than admit it. I never got great answers and this game does have a strange uniqueness to it because how it's programmed. Shield defense for example has skills anchored completely in base damage, this means that some rotations give a tanker better dps than a brute (thinking specifically burst here not over time). We can get into all of that but generally the following should be true: Stalker: Single target burst king Scrapper: Versatile king Brute: King when able to stay at 70%ish fury. This requires some gearing OR is true in fights solo or when getting hit constantly (many enemies) I don't know everything and I'm sure a lot of the posters here refusing to give their take or answer you will be keen to tell my why I'm wrong. Where I think a better conversation could be had is : what AT does more dps with X powerset. I think more people can comment there.

This doesn't necessarily apply to the OP but it's definitely clear that people in general call 'toxic' far sooner than I ever would. So far at least on Everlasting it's non stop cuddles and pleasantness. Only thing I noticed is people are crazy sensitive, but that's not such a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.

Maybe that explains the overreactions to this thread. I mean I totally agree with you though, I don't think my pet peeve and tolerating all RP are mutually exclusive.

There are no rules to roleplay except the ones followed within circles (i.e friend groups, supergroups, etc) - plus any rules that the server itself puts out (which is none, bar some very specific rules about where you roleplay/what you roleplay - targeting more adult or truly heinous things) - so yeah. Some people do not quite understand what is and isn't roleplay breaking because its based on personal opinion. To them, having a character who can fix stuff is a-okay to them but they've never been told otherwise that "hey, this is all way too deus ex machina style." or such. That's the problem: You're not engaging them in a manner that would benefit their growth as a roleplayer. You, instead, chose to make a forum topic. To each their own, but you're only adding to your own personal problem. I feel that's being a bit too argumentative here. The post, while advocating that person's perspective, was a way to engage with and discuss this among the community. RP communities have unspoken words about RP'ing live-changing (or ending) events on other RP'ers, after all. This is just suggesting that the same courtesy be applied to broader narrative arcs. In the example you're quoting, Prototech was responding to my post, so I'll use my example here further. Yes, if someone's playing the benevolent financial master that can spend whatever and are willing to share it with whoever, they can feel stifled and snubbed in your roleplaying opportunities when *I* don't want you to offer my starving college student a full tuition, living expenses, and an open account at icon to update my costume. On the other hand, if I took the time to RP out that character's problem, though, I probably didn't want it hand-waved away into oblivion with a 1 minute gesture. That's a problem. The solution was applied without OOC, without any telegraphing, and with a finality that showed little consideration for some of the themes I may be seeking to express with my character. Granted, I could easily retcon that experience away and keep my character poor once that fleeting RP encounter is gone... assuming it was just a fleeting encounter and not a RP supergroup I intended to join and that player may feel snubbed if we encounter each other later. Same goes for the guy that fixes things. In that one, he jumped in "fixing" things and presenting them as perfectly new without any OOC comments or requests. He actually got insulted when I had some things fizzle back out because "stuff my character fixes don't break like that" His RP not only redefined an aspect of the character but he tried to then impose his character's RP characteristics on my RP. OOC the player you're about to transform... or telegraph the intent in smaller slower batches that can be intercepted and changed. "walk over and examine the suit" gives you an out (didn't have tools, didn't have time, seemed strange design choices that could take hours to unravel) if someone objects in time. It shouldn't be unreasonable to suggest that such things be the norm. Thanks, I'm glad to have this sort of discussion happen in the thread. I feel you are presenting a constructive spin on my rant. What you are saying is exactly the sort of thing I'd like to communicate to the larger RP community as efficiently as possible. I believe that would alleviate the situation I'm seeing. To everyone else, I do apologize if my critical nature is offensive, I'm just like that.

I read them, especially if doing multiple missions. I guess I should clarify, I'm not talking about EVERYONE I have RPed with. This is an issue but it's not universal. I'm surprised, a LOT of people are taking this either partly personally or completely. Was the OP really that aggressive, totally taken aback about some of the reactions I'm getting. Look I mean I'm on a team of 8, and I RP a character that has questions right and EVERY other char knows everything. They don't even convey the info in an IC way, it's like they are copy pasting from the wiki. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about when it comes to the lore point I made. Some of my characters know things, many of them don't really want to even talk about it. I have a char that's so self absorbed he simply doesn't share the things he does know and that becomes part of the RP. I mean there are 100 ways to be interesting. Again many are, I am just frustrated by some percentage of the population of RPers that just mary sue it or RP themselves.

Assumptions make an ass out of you (and me, as the saying goes, but I'm not the one assuming) - I am giving people the benefit of the doubt for various reasons: => We all start somewhere => This game is new for a lot of people. => Some people are new to roleplaying (cycles back to the first point) => They might know any better, or they have a different idea of roleplay. Doesn't make them cringey or Mary Sues. Both are terms that need to die off, tbh. Only according to personal belief and standards of your own, rather than global standards. What is poor to you is what I'd describe is people who are either embracing the wide variety (that comic book/superhero genres entail) or being new to roleplaying - or some other reason. It's not poor to have fun or to make mistakes - both are entirely valid. There are no rules to roleplay except the ones followed within circles (i.e friend groups, supergroups, etc) - plus any rules that the server itself puts out (which is none, bar some very specific rules about where you roleplay/what you roleplay - targeting more adult or truly heinous things) - so yeah. Some people do not quite understand what is and isn't roleplay breaking because its based on personal opinion. To them, having a character who can fix stuff is a-okay to them but they've never been told otherwise that "hey, this is all way too deus ex machina style." or such. That's the problem: You're not engaging them in a manner that would benefit their growth as a roleplayer. You, instead, chose to make a forum topic. To each their own, but you're only adding to your own personal problem. Ok you just went full hippie and totally lost me in the first part of your post then you went narrow minded judging and making assumptions about me in the end. To each their own as you say.

Totally get it it, and I admit I am often guilty of arrogance etc. I did try to be fair and do totally believe people should enjoy things their way. Honestly made this post to see if there were more of my kind so I don't give up too much on RP. Looking for friends vs trying to change others. Cheers