Solarverse

"Let my hero's names go!"

lol, "V-spot" You're killing me here, lol

Yeah, it's nice to get the one word names, but using two words can help shape the character a bit more. I am so right there with you, Tech. ☺️

My main is Energy Blast and I play him at least once any time I log in. I have never been asked if I slot KB to KD and even in the times of the old before that existed, I learned extremely fast to aim my KB toward a corner or the wall where the Tank resided, if that were not possible I stuck to hammering the Highest Ranked NPC to lowest in Single Target. In my experience, nobody says a word. I guess they wait and see how I play then say nothing once they see how. Then again, 95% of the time, I run my own teams, so maybe my point of view is a bit moot.

Energy Blast is the only power in game that has never seen a nerf or a buff. To the best of my memory, Energy is the same today as it was upon release.

I can think up of some ways. Give all NPC's PBAoE auto hit Endurance Drain. Give all NPC's Phase. Give all NPC's PBAoE Fear. Give all NPC's 0 resists to knock back. No player will want to play Melee ever again. That'll fix'em once and or all.

Yeah, not sure why that silly idea keeps being associated with me, but that wasn't my idea, nor anything that I have supported.

No, I found the character in my long list that had the name, not the naming policy, heh. However, I went ahead and did a quick google search and found this. It's Policy #25

I did cover the part where if you kick somebody for it. It's a no win situation for the team leader. Keep in mind, this isn't exactly extremely common or anything, but it does happen on occasion. I would simply like to see s synergy happen to KB that not only makes it tolerable for nonKB players, but even welcomed. The real question is, can it be done, and would the KB players enjoy the new KB mechanic if it were implemented.

Here is the problem with that... It comes down to this, "You play your way, I'll play mine." Except that when a KB player plays their way, I can't play my way. One always negates the other. KD players do not affect KB players at all. My targets fall flat on their butt which still leaves them grouped up so that your AoE still hits. Yours on the other hand is not anywhere near as courteous as the KB player's powers unless you play your KB characters tactfully. And let's be honest here, tactful KB players are not even close to being the norm.

What I think I did, was remaking certain characters, but wasn't sure what I wanted to permanently name them yet...I think. Hell, who knows. All is well though. I did lose a few of my character names, but nothing I was too upset about since I have never had problems with names. I lost Drown, Police Drone, Nightrat, Aphotic, Hiss, Multiverse, Mirror and Oil Man. So I simply changed Oil Man to Oilstain, Police Drone to Police Drone 2099, Nightrat to Night Rat, Aphotic to Aphotic Fog, Hiss to Hissing Fang, Multiverse to Anotherverse, Mirror to Mirrorverse and Drown to Seaverse. I lost a few others as well, but after reading all this, I actually lost a lot, lol. More than I realized. But I pulled through okay. I call it a good recovery, heh.

Scratch that, found it, not sure what in the hell I did before I quit, but looks like I created a bunch of doubles and added a number 1 to the end of them. Have no clue why. It's called getting old I suppose.

Last I read, level 50s were immune. Apparently that is no longer true since I lost the name United States. So what's the new rule now?

The only problem here is simple. One play style negatively impacts the other. So far, the only solution is to either kick (which god forbid if you do that, the rage will ensue promptly) or quit the team. Since I am almost always the leader of my teams...well, I'll be damned if I quit my own team because a KB player won't play nice even if asked politely. Do I have a right to ask that player to not knock back? I guess that depends on who you ask. So if I can't please the crowd and I can't be pleased, then what other options do I have? KB players rage if you kick them, they rage if you ask them to please stop and players on your team can and sometimes do quit the team if you don't kick them. It's a no win situation for the team leader. This is why I prefer something...anything added to the game that allows the KB players to keep their KB, while at the same time it contributing to the team who does not like it in a positive way. This is exactly why I suggest a bouncing affect after a knock back. If you knock back towards a wall, the NPC bounces off the wall, takes damage from the impact and lands in a 3 to 5 foot radius of where the NPC was standing before knocked back. This keeps the NPC in the area in which he came which does not interfere with players nuking the area while at the same time allowing the KB player their fun. If not knocked back against a wall, then where ever that NPC lands is where the NPC lands, but no bonus damage. To me it's a win/win...if people could actually agree to it and if it could actually be coded.

Hmmm, yeah, whoever wrote that must have been joking. That would never fly, lol.

So because some people are A-holes, we just shouldn't do it? I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I don't operate like that. And just so you know, I would never take advantage of you deliberately. I simply took it at face value. We actually agree on many things, this just isn't one of them. However, regardless of our disagreement here, you are one of the extreme few who I still maintain respect for.

I see where you are seeing this. However, I don't recall anyone trying to take away knock back. I have seen requests to make it a choice, and I have seen requests made to make it synergize well with teams by giving knock back some type of buff or damage scale that makes it sting a lot less on teams that don't like knock back. But taking it away? I don't recall anyone requesting that, and if anyone did request it, I most likely avoided that thread due to the ridiculousness of the suggestion. I mean, I can't speak for everyone else, but what I can say, is rest assure, I am in no way trying to take knock back away from anyone. I just wouldn't stoop that low. 😎

I'm not even sure how to respond to this. Exactly which KB proposition has been made that would affect the play style of everyone with a KB power? The one where changing it would be a choice? The one where Knock Back causes extra damage based on distance knocked? You lost me there, Ghost. Either we are talking about two different things or I am severely failing to see your point of view here. Help me out here and explain it to me, please.

I agree with this as well. When Fold Space was created, my first thought was, "I know where this is leading...just more irritation." It was supposed to be the answer to the Knock Back. Instead it became an equal irritation.

Lol, funny guy. I remember when people said the same thing about Power Color Customization...

You give the OG Devs more credit than they deserve. I don't think they thought it out that hard.

I would love to see video of this...uncut.

You are 100% correct. There's only one problem with this; this has been a complaint and issue with the game since day one. There have been many solutions that have been presented, all shot down for one reason or another...and sometimes no reason given at all. Some solutions have even been great compromises or even the ability to turn KB on or off, depending on the type of team you are playing on...again, shot down. Worse, is that there is no reason why KB players and non-KB players can't play together with many of the solutions presented over the eons of time. This has been a problem for so long, the real question is; Why does this problem still exist when there have been so many solutions to fix the conflicting issue? KB does not have to be conflicting on a nonKB team when it can be made to be a beneficial asset?

Somebody covered that already...and I replied.

And here it is. You got two thumbs down for offering a solution that doesn't require people to take it. This is why KB players and F your KB players will never get along!