Croax Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Hi all, i'm trying to figure out how to build a proper Controller. I was testing this build today on the test server and was thinking it could be a good addition to teams. I will be playing it mostly with league members and am more confident in building melee alts so far. It would be really cool if you could help me improve this build. Maybe i am missing something very important. Also i have no idea about the best incarnate options for aa grav/kin. I had not a special build goal in mind, just trying to get as survivable as possible, because /kin does not offer much mittigation tools. I just went away with one slot for Dimension Shift and Wormhole, because these seemed to be like situational powers at best. I would really appreciate some feedback. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.2https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Gravity Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Crush TraoftheH-Dam%(A), TraoftheH-Acc/Immob/Rchg(17), TraoftheH-EndRdx/Immob(17), TraoftheH-Acc/EndRdx(46), TraoftheH-Immob/Acc(46), TraoftheH-Acc/Rchg(46) Level 1: Transfusion Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(13), Prv-Heal(15), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Prv-Heal/Rchg(45), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(45) Level 2: Gravity Distortion SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(A), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(3), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(21), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31) Level 4: Super Speed Run-I(A) Level 6: Propel Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), ExpStr-Dam%(34), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(34) Level 8: Crushing Field TraoftheH-Dam%(A), TraoftheH-Acc/Immob/Rchg(9), TraoftheH-EndRdx/Immob(9), TraoftheH-Acc/Rchg(48), TraoftheH-Acc/EndRdx(48), TraoftheH-Immob/Acc(48) Level 10: Siphon Speed Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(11) Level 12: Dimension Shift EndRdx-I(A) Level 14: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15) Level 16: Boxing Acc-I(A) Level 18: Gravity Distortion Field SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(A), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(19), SprOvrPrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(27), SprOvrPrs-EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(33) Level 20: Speed Boost EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(A) Level 22: Tough StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(23), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), Ags-ResDam(37), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(39), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 24: Weave RedFrt-Def(A), RedFrt-EndRdx(25), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(25), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(40), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(40), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 26: Wormhole Range-I(A) Level 28: Combat Jumping LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(29) Level 30: Maneuvers LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31) Level 32: Singularity ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(50), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(50), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50) Level 35: Scorpion Shield Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Rct-Def/EndRdx(36), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Rct-Def/Rchg(37), Rct-Def(37) Level 38: Fulcrum Shift Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39) Level 41: Poisonous Ray Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thn-Acc/Dmg(42), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(43), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43) Level 44: Increase Density UnbGrd-Max HP%(A) Level 47: Transference EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A) Level 49: Siphon Power Acc-I(A) Level 1: Brawl Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift Run-I(A) Level 2: Health Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), Pnc-Heal/+End(13) Level 2: Hurdle Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(5) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon ------------ http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1472&c=656&a=1312&f=HEX&dc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ontroller - Gravity Control - Kinetics.mxd Edited September 14, 2019 by Croax More than just a Ninja - A Guide to Stalkers Croax's Tier List and Build Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3ri0us Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Your file looks like this, so i don't know if ppl can help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croax Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) I included a data link, but here you go with a screenshot. Edited September 14, 2019 by Croax More than just a Ninja - A Guide to Stalkers Croax's Tier List and Build Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlynne Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 hours ago, s3ri0us said: Your file looks like this, so i don't know if ppl can help you. They can if they're using the correct build planner app. Yours shows an outdated app, so no wonder the file didn't parse correctly for you. Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3ri0us Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Redlynne said: They can if they're using the correct build planner app. Yours shows an outdated app, so no wonder the file didn't parse correctly for you. I have that too 😛 I have 3 versions because some builds are stubborn and they won't open. Just needed to open it myself from the File tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 What I'd do. Convert Propel to a full set of Thunderstrike. Convert Poisonous Ray to a full set of Superior Winter's bit. Kicks your E/N/Ranged up a bit more and provides a bit more F/C/AoE. Otherwise your build is quite Tanky! If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croax Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: Otherwise your build is quite Tanky! Thank you! I had troubles to figure out how to make a kinetic tanky. with /time it is so much easier... In my Experience every knockback effect was really annoying, so i was thinking propel needs sudden acceleration KB to KD. I will look at it a little closer. More than just a Ninja - A Guide to Stalkers Croax's Tier List and Build Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uun Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I would spend fewer slots on defense and more slots on making your primary and secondary powers work. You've got no accuracy slotted in Transfusion or Wormhole and very little slotted in Transference. Your set bonus +acc isn't going to be enough if you're fighting +3s and +4s. I would definitely commit some slots to Wormhole for acc, stun and recharge and I would probably add some slots to Transference as well. Uuniverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croax Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) Thank you for your feedback @Uun i have changed the slots from crush to Wormhole. I think Crush will not be that important. If i think of using Wormhole to stack enemys and Fulcrum Shift afterwards, it could be cool move for the team. I used the Stupefy set because of the Ranged defense bonus. That way i still stay tanky. I am not totally selled on the Winter's Bite Set. It is very expansive for what i get out of it, maybe i will go back to the first frankensloting with 3 Thunderstrikes. As for the +acc, how much is needed to hit enemys of +3 or +4? I was thnking the global +acc i had in the first iteration of the build equals one Acc IO in every Power. Why is that not enough? |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1472;648;1296;HEX;| |78DA6594D94F135114C6E77611BBD1225BCBDE2A6BA516E1DD440454DA84C4C457D| |394012621D0B4D5C893A2BEBA80202E717D50C0E59FF24554765FF4653C9DEF2B2D| |E924D3DFDCEF9EED9E7B6F93B72F79BF8D2D5ED05460783695CBDD189E9FCB67E76| |767F5AC33999A36D25AE1A99237529A291AC5C6B2A95B467EA1380E96995CBC3935| |151B37E6F4BC91CE69EE897931BF96D1F5499FF5396A4CCFE48DB969AF354AE8A98| |C0CFCC5C1A49ECDCD189996918C918E95054DA6D2BAFCE4F27A7621283575C9FB50| |697C4C4D6B120C38B49192E6D4B6ED96E6FD0D56FF00CFFE247F915BE063F155F45| |59FA1D936C98F60DD27721D6CDB004F4BA3ECACC5DE8F5A9E483027E339BF3A2CED| |C43AB9018637C9EFE4177049A1F705DFAA57CAD24EBE24D7C0C073F20578EE19785| |9E0B25662DA5CEC8B3B7A9CCB32ED61BD9E30B48824F4590D30958F76D5A492393F| |EDFD8CF9546C6B58634D2BEA3ED54206C1A610D90476348357C5B796F16A976C966| |6971CF5C8EFAC6F940F89D91024CFA3CF6786B0C6AE38D83D083AC4B791BE8DD5D0| |827ED24D5B0FE9057B7DE08A20C475841E40EBBF4FDE21EFB2C78BE43DB041F2362| |3AFADB91E5A4B1D398E9A6BC4A69536ADB469A34D5B005C15B4B386F63FE847C721| |B90B0EEC91FBE401B82A9B10E1DA23873C8F07E42EB9C7FEED933B6052FC3A79563| |AB9AF5DD1E35C91F83DACADE703B4DEF7E46BB0EF0DF9967C075E91D051EE73F42F| |7226448B518B3DC21A46458BA30E2DCE3A0A47E9E87E9BF2140E425131FB2A66E31| |5CA40853258A10C55288982A2A8B850DF84E3E8BF415396952B7074E3CD6DB7CCD2| |43F1F6EF96349B2A1CF76E39A5D7B1DBDE303AB153EED703BFBD92A6D41AB23B96C| |17F0D02CC99FF019A17E2D9| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited September 16, 2019 by Croax More than just a Ninja - A Guide to Stalkers Croax's Tier List and Build Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uun Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Croax said: As for the +acc, how much is needed to hit enemys of +3 or +4? I was thnking the global +acc i had in the first iteration of the build equals one Acc IO in every Power. Why is that not enough? With no slotting, your base chance to hit a +0 foe is 75%. Assuming 40% +acc, your chance to hit is 105% (0.75 x 1.40), which is capped at 95%. Your base chance to hit a +3 foe is 48%. With the same 40% +acc, your chance to hit is only 67.2%. With a +4 foe your base chance drops to 39% and the enhanced value is only 54.6%. This is why you need more acc or tohit buffs. https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics 1 Uuniverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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