SmalltalkJava Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) First of all, this is my gimmick have fun Mastermind. So take that as it is. What got me thinking about this was last month when I re-watched parts of the the Daredevil TV show on Netflix. Daredevil is a street level hero. He was never involved in the Marvel movies. But according to the timeline he was doing other street level stuff. Thugs was used because this is a street level hero build that has sidekicks that help him fight crime. I went with /Time because of the +Defense and the PBAOE heal. This is about getting in close and punching things, just getting into the scrum and beating face! Boxing, Cross Punch, Kick, Brawl. You don't need to use them all since they are all such low recharge, just two are required for a solid attack chain. But hey, its about fun! So variety rules. The trick is to keep your Sidekicks in melee range with you. So when I play it I use the Goto command quite often. That way I can heal them if i need to. This build can do PI portal missions at +4x8. I'm generally, a /Nature player so I feel that endurance can be an issue if you go to crazy on the heals. But I'm not sure if that is just me being used to the -70% endurance cost that nature provides. However it is a fun build if you like to smack villain face. I basically, play it like an old school Dark Age of Camelot /assist train, where I'm the main Assist. I don't know if any of you used to play Dark Age of Camelot, or know what an Assist Train is. An Assist Train is where a group has 1 person who is there to designate targets for everyone to beat on all at once. The other players would all use the /assist command to make sure they all targeted the same target as the lead. The Lead would go after priority targets first, Mezzers/CC'rs, Healers, Debuffers, DPS, then last would be enemy tanks. I mimic the /assist command by of course using the "Petcom_all Attack". Then we steam roll target by target. As always, as I play it more and get more experience, I may end up trying to fit in Provoke to mimic the villains getting angry with me as we beat into submission. My Defenses and resists. S/L Def 47.39. 43.65 Melee Def (not shown) S/L Resists 71.52 Spoiler The Punks Defenses: 46.05 Ranged, Melee, Psionic, 61.06 AOE Defenses Spoiler Enforcers Defenses. 46.05 for typed accross the board, melee, ranged, 61.05 Def AOE The build Spoiler Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.5https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Melee-Thugs-Time: Level 50 Science MastermindPrimary Power Set: ThugsSecondary Power Set: Time ManipulationPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Call Thugs (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen (3) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (5) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (5) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (7) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown Level 1: Time Crawl (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance Level 2: Temporal Mending (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance Level 4: Boxing (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 6: Equip Thugs (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 8: Kick (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 10: Time's Juncture (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance (15) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance Level 12: Call Enforcer (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage/Endurance (15) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (17) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage (17) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (19) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (19) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 14: Cross Punch (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (21) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (21) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (23) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (23) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (25) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 16: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (25) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance (27) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (27) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection (29) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (29) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance Level 18: Gang War (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (31) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (31) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (33) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (33) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus Level 20: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (33) Recharge Reduction IO Level 22: Distortion Field (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (34) Red Fortune - Endurance (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (36) Red Fortune - Defense Level 26: Call Bruiser (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage (36) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Endurance (37) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (37) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Endurance (37) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (39) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus Level 28: Farsight (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (39) Red Fortune - Defense (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (40) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (40) Red Fortune - Endurance (40) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (42) Red Fortune - Endurance (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (43) Red Fortune - Defense Level 32: Upgrade Equipment (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 35: Slowed Response (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage Level 38: Chrono Shift (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (43) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Super Jump (A) Springfoot - Endurance/Jumping Level 44: Dark Embrace (A) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist (45) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist (45) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Endurance (45) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End (46) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance (46) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 47: Tactics (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff (48) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge (48) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge (48) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 49: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Spoiler Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - 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Shoulung Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 If I did this I’d have to grab force of will for some aoe fun, maybe be the turtle hermit with all his little students. I remember having an assist button and trucking around in rvr way back in the day; so happy we have through targeting now.
BGSacho Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) I had a very similar idea of a punchy MM when building Thugs/Time. I ended up using dual wield + cross punch instead of boxing/kicking because it just outperforms them significantly. With FF in both attacks and cross punch's recharge you have an absolutely ridiculous recharge...unfortunately not much you can use it on. Derp. The punchiness feel is real though, you are right there in the thick of things laying down the pain. I really like it. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.4https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic MastermindPrimary Power Set: ThugsSecondary Power Set: Time ManipulationPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Call Thugs -- SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(3), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(5), ExpStr-Dam%(5), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(7)Level 1: Time Crawl -- PcnoftheT-Acc/EndRdx(A), PcnoftheT--Rchg%(7)Level 2: Dual Wield -- GldJvl-Acc/Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Apc-Dam%(9), ExpStr-Dam%(11), GldJvl-Dam%(11), FrcFdb-Rechg%(13)Level 4: Temporal Mending -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(15), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(17), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(19)Level 6: Time's Juncture -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(21), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(21), DarWtcDsp-Slow%(23)Level 8: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 10: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(23), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50)Level 12: Call Enforcer -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(25), HO:Cyto(27), TchofLadG-%Dam(27), AchHee-ResDeb%(29), ShlBrk-%Dam(29)Level 14: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(31)Level 16: Distortion Field -- Lck-%Hold(A)Level 18: Gang War -- SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(31), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), EdcoftheM-PetDef(33), SvrRgh-PetResDam(34)Level 20: Boxing -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(34), GldArm-3defTpProc(34)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(36), RedFrt-Def(36)Level 26: Cross Punch -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Arm-Dam%(37), Obl-%Dam(37), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)Level 28: Call Bruiser -- SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(39), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Build%(40), ExpStr-Dam%(40)Level 30: Farsight -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Rct-ResDam%(42), Rct-Def(42), Rct-Def/Rchg(42), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43)Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 35: Slowed Response -- ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(43), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(43), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(45)Level 38: Chrono Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45)Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(45), BlsoftheZ-Travel(46), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(46)Level 44: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)Level 47: Electrifying Fences -- EnfOpr-Acc/Immob(A), EnfOpr-Immob/Rng(48), EnfOpr-Acc/EndRdx(50), EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(50)Level 49: Kick -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(13)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15)Level 50: Clarion Radial Epiphany Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon ------------ Edited October 14, 2019 by BGSacho 1
Couthless Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 I had a similar idea recently as I was inspired by the Leviathan proccing thread. Which of course highlights the biggest omission in your build: Knockout Blow (From Leviathan Mastery. You aren't a worthy puncher until you have your finishing blow! If you are interested, this is the build I came up with: Spoiler Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.5https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic MastermindPrimary Power Set: ThugsSecondary Power Set: Time ManipulationPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: PresencePower Pool: FlightPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Call Thugs -- SlbAll-Build%(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), EdcoftheM-PetDef(9), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(11), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(11)Level 1: Time Crawl -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 2: Temporal Mending -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal(40), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(40), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(40), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(43)Level 4: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(5), TchofDth-Dam%(7), GldStr-%Dam(7), Mk'Bit-Dam%(9)Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 8: Kick -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Hct-Dmg(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), TchofDth-Dam%(50), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(50)Level 10: Provoke -- Taunt-I(A)Level 12: Call Enforcer -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(13), SprMarofS-Dmg(13), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(25), SvrRgh-PetResDam(25), GssSynFr--Build%(27)Level 14: Cross Punch -- Arm-Dam%(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(15), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(17), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(17), Erd-%Dam(23)Level 16: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(31), ImpArm-ResPsi(33), UnbGrd-ResDam(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33)Level 18: Gang War -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(19), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(21), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(21), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(37)Level 20: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(36), Rct-Def/EndRdx(37)Level 22: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36)Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(39)Level 26: Call Bruiser -- SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(A), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(27), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(29), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(31)Level 28: Farsight -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(34), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(39), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(39)Level 30: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(A)Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 35: School of Sharks -- Empty(A)Level 38: Slowed Response -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), TchofLadG-Rchg/EndRdx(46), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(46)Level 41: Knockout Blow -- Ann-ResDeb%(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42), UnbCns-Dam%(42), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)Level 44: Shark Skin -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Ags-Psi/Status(45), ImpArm-ResPsi(45), Ags-ResDam(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(46)Level 47: Chrono Shift -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(48), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(48), DctWnd-Heal(50)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 0: Maneuvers Level 0: Tactics Level 0: Assault Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface Level 50: Nerve Radial Paragon ------------ 1
plainguy Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 First off DOAC Wow.. I loved that game.. Played with Shadowclan.. RP guild.. Was great, great fun.. the PVP was awesome.. Great ideas for its time.. As you know, big petless mm player here.. Had a concept of a Time Thugs or Dark Thugs, last pet only and gang war. Build out my character to look like last toon. Call him Nega Scott. Like from Scott Pilgrim. and go the route of melee attacks. My question I posted in General discussion and will ask here. Anyone ever play a Smash Lethal defense cap only build ? I never did. I am always defense cap. I would forgo resistance over defense cap. It has served me extremely well. But I also realize I might be missing out on creating much better builds if Smash Lethal is viable with Smash Lethal resistance cap. For me as I mentioned in the past, Petless and Semi Petless is weak already for many reasons. Lacking defenses is just adding insult to injury. Currently working Smash Lethal and Range cap based on the other thread. Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/
plainguy Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) This is what I got. Incarnate Alpa would defense cap range. You put farsight on perma toggle. Wish they had some sort of Earth mastery to simulate tossing a boulder like last thug does. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.5https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Science MastermindPrimary Power Set: ThugsSecondary Power Set: Time ManipulationPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Pistols -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), GldJvl-Dam%(5), Dcm-Build%(5), Tmp-EndDrn%(7)Level 1: Time Crawl -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A)Level 2: Temporal Mending -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(11), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(11), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17)Level 4: Time's Juncture -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(13), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(15), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(15), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(17)Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(9), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(13), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(21)Level 10: Empty Clips -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(23), ExpStr-Dam%(31), PstBls-Dam%(40), Ann-ResDeb%(42), JvlVll-Dam%(45)Level 12: Super Speed -- Empty(A)Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(19), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(19)Level 16: Distortion Field -- NrnSht-Dam%(A), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(45)Level 18: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--Build%(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(34)Level 20: Time Stop -- GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(A), NrnSht-Dam%(27)Level 22: Gang War -- BldMnd-Acc/Dmg(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(23), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx(25), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), BldMnd-Acc(43), BldMnd-Dmg(43)Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 26: Call Bruiser -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(34), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(37), SlbAll-Build%(40), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(42)Level 28: Farsight -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(29), Rct-Def/Rchg(31), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(43)Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 35: Slowed Response -- ShlBrk-DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(36), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(36), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(36), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlBrk-%Dam(37)Level 38: Chrono Shift -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(39), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(39), Pnc-Heal(40)Level 41: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42)Level 44: Charged Armor -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(46), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), RctArm-ResDam(46)Level 47: Thunder Strike -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(48), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(50)Level 49: Static Discharge -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Heal(21)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(7), PrfShf-Acc/Rchg(9)------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1448;688;1376;HEX;| |78DA6594C94F535114C6DFED7BA5508AB4945A860EB4804CB552756F220E5169420| |26A5C91069EF0123A84D244962E4CFC07D48D46178ABA7163A238AC4C34EA3FA0C6| |69E1C2010175EB500FEFFBA48D7DC9CBAFEFBBE79EF3DD73EF6DFAD43ECFAD83A7F| |768CA3B3297291627D399E282399FB572D3AEF129CBCC4D99BA268F4BDE60656C72| |BC94CDE673C989D9D24C3156A5EF2D9D3C999CB0B2A624CA5985D25C66C1CAE734C| |F583E3F971C3533052B37E3B63FC60BA639DDFC4F9F36E78BB356A1C9FE3E60CDCC| |2E4860C7FE823595ACCA9E2ED1DF629BF8E995F79153E353766A97042943735C26A| |F804642072FCA779FA1D59D15860DED456073AEA62D295B7B299A52B6A6AB55CC73| |7F223F83DE15F095C4EA8835F43B0E5BF3DC05B72C93F740EF7DF0B1F875B2A6330| 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https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/
plainguy Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Thugs Dark This would fall more into the Nega Scott theme. You would have to rely on Darkest Night for defense cap for Range and AOE. You are melee capped and almost smash lethal. Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.5https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic MastermindPrimary Power Set: ThugsSecondary Power Set: Dark MiasmaPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Pistols -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(11), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(5), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(39)Level 2: Tar Patch -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A)Level 4: Darkest Night -- SphIns-ToHitDeb(A), SphIns-%ToHit(5), SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(7), SphIns-Acc/Rchg(7), SphIns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(9)Level 6: Kick -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 8: Empty Clips -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(33), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(34), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(34), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), PstBls-Dam%(37)Level 10: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 14: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(15), UnbGrd-ResDam(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33)Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(40)Level 18: Gang War -- SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(A), SvrRgh-Dmg/EndRdx(19), SvrRgh-Acc/EndRdx(19), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), SvrRgh-Acc(25), SvrRgh-PetResDam(25)Level 20: Fearsome Stare -- Ngh-Acc/Rchg(A), Ngh-EndRdx/Fear(21), Ngh-Acc/EndRdx(21), Ngh-Fear/Rng(23), Ngh-Acc/Fear/Rchg(43)Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(33)Level 24: Howling Twilight -- RzzDzz-Acc/Rchg(A), RzzDzz-Immob%(36), RzzDzz-EndRdx/Stun(36), RzzDzz-Acc/EndRdx(37)Level 26: Call Bruiser -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(27), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(29), SlbAll-Build%(31), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(31)Level 28: Petrifying Gaze -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(29), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(37), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36), LucoftheG-Def(43)Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 35: Tactics -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 38: Dark Servant -- DscWrd-ToHitDeb(A), DscWrd-ToHitDeb/Rchg(40), DscWrd-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(42), Lck-%Hold(46)Level 41: Static Discharge -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(42), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(42)Level 44: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)Level 47: Thunder Strike -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(48), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 49: Electrifying Fences -- GrvAnc-Hold%(A), GrvAnc-Immob(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Heal(3)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(3)------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1460;687;1374;HEX;| |78DA6594CB4F135114C6EF74A6424BA1AD05CAA3BC0A081418A9BA3711D4A034A99| |682684C3381A19D480BE9B4092EFD17DCB891872E4C7CC48DCF44DDB830EA5A40D7| |AE1554888F4D3DCC77B44D663293DF9DEF9E73EF77EEBD33B1E531CFC3D3D78E0BC| |937BAA099662AA699053D9F357273CE98963666654157153DC1724F2A51CC661773| |EA64A698365B2BF413C5F979754CCB5F49C50CCDCC6AFEF15C46CFEBB982FAAF511| |B5F5C5C504F19E94CC1C8A5DDD65B6249D7E7BC567342D7E6F4BC9931966A10B8B0| |1FD97272C998552BE68915D9E7D52672D64BCF6BA7E0ABE4142B84A822AA5741F71| |A731DF4DC62DE0693CAFF5C8798922C4D49828712E014C5488811D21D6AB529629A| |34D9124B8A5C2523CF031EA866BAC06A37E8A0A584D592EC8C13C28A889C0387CF3| 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https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/
Dr Causality Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Ha! I have several of these builds too and it's what led me to look at the Leviathan MM Gimmicks I posted about: Here's a very extreme version, where I give up capped Smash/Lethal Resistance down to a still respectable 59% and Defense down to 32%. So roughly one small purple insp away from soft cap, which let's the build fit in lots of procs and the following melee character powers: Boxing Kick Cross Punch Knockout Blow Spring Attack Provoke So very much like Shield Defense melee character but on a MM, with some team support. Then if that's still not enough melee attacks you still have Sands of Mu - Free Patron Power And basic Brawl (which oddly w/Kinetic Combat chance for knockdown seems glitched and at least on MM appears to have near 100% chance to proc ) This was a concept build, so I was surprised when it performed really well and was extremely fun to play. I like to test my builds on Solo ITFs and this one finished +2/+8 without needing temp powers. But I will say not having a proced out ranged hold to shut down and take out Surgeons/Sappers was annoying, so I would probably give up something up to fit 'Time Stop' into the build. Here's the Build: Spoiler | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1482;739;1478;HEX;| |78DA65544B4F136114FDE6514AA1402B94F28622B4A54061D4958992888FA86D426| |2415D91099476B4AFD05661E9C29D6E74E11F302EDD1837EE8C41C0C4C4B851C147| |62629468D1282E74532F73AE74924E3239BD8F73EF99FBDDAFD1A5E3CEFBA7AE4D0| |8C93599D2F3F9D9A89E2FC417D34666DE16D513C69C22E8B1D3EBAD4466CF15D3E9| |6C261C4B1613799FC57FACB8B0108E19E93895C918B9624A2F18D98C704F65B3A9B| |0D5E5343D91B89E33328906D33869249205B29AFE87E6E38BF9A491F39DC8197361| |4B9348FC8AA117927A86B52EB7913A3FBD4F6C829FB24D5C5085D054214F33FE940| |91D42DDD945BB50B7282D601735CB6437ABE295678F2B44873039AFC927C1A748DF| |14935FF315585B52CC9CDA2F8A59EF0DE52A12F8CA23F45A213D36AE69F3A166871| |DD3DCD568BF8CBCC6A46CC61A0DA0EB12630A389A06B612D1C13D1C1EC9E4AE5283| |7AAE577F14F5F69504F039782D35A4B19BB0059C56E64A54AF81F535F8C1DDA4EF6| |8824F6EFACB7DEF527EB743B4DDDB45BB58A39E6EEEE95EC71CDA9E023B5619D780| |5DBF85399FAE8FB2A941A69ECD5CBFF92A66DFB3C4C867E1A51C0FE778DE4243CF0| |6CEAD6F13F68D41DA48E4A8DE926CEA0B6C316EA357E03A728726A0659D74B7B3EE| |76EED517C37EF49D07FA66182F324EA2C63B12D489D9AB9D3CBFFD87C954950AFEC| |22E0C9C054AAD2483FB75B3B601D63AC01AFDACC37F047DFCACF91969EDE5B3E9E5| |DD794F1AFAA141EE7F0C5EE825CE4D7B01FC4039839C33C83B3BC43B3B7413390FC| |80CF27C83D3E817FA8419853E034B4E218659FB7010BC9110236B1C19E6FD3CCDB8| |82993DA412619E55F80FEA8DED40C39817BB34A6C1D60E20EEA6331F07471AE7F96| |A2E60976AB99B31827ED269F595E911E3551EADCA73B0CA73A8CA13A9F2442B9EF2| |94BAF79F202433EA70D1CDE768A98EA27C43A551DCC2EF159F2C9DA11F0155D4CD4| |8E657D7F9F0F5DB565E10BC1F56DE1D4CD8790B27E0BC0D8CD055D29053FE0719FF| |F29A| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1482&c=739&a=1478&f=HEX&dc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f anyone is interested I have some other versions that are more optimized but give up some melee attacks or Spring Attack... Edited October 14, 2019 by Dr Causality 1
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