Bio/Staff tank looking for help making final build

Stormangel · February 13, 2020

Not worried on travel powers but Combat Jump is always nice. I'm just loving this toon Blood Brother on reunion and am now 46. I'm looking for help to make this guy as tough as possible so he can tank anything in game but I suck on sets and still new to incarnate system. Been using a dark/staff build as reference but I want to hit caps as best as possible. Thanks in advance if someone could help me here.

Stormangel · February 21, 2020

Bump in case someone can help me out here.

Xandyr · February 22, 2020

I have 0 experience with Staff. Maybe I need to change that...🤔

Bio...pretty much every power is important and you'll want to take. I have a bio/rad tank and he's nigh indestructible. I took tough/weave and Maneuvers to bump everything up just a wee bit more.

I'm not at my PC, but I can post my build if you want. (I use Mids reborn and it never posts powers/slots/IOs...just a link. Wish I could figure out why)

Stormangel · February 22, 2020

5 hours ago, Xandyr said:

I have 0 experience with Staff. Maybe I need to change that...🤔

Bio...pretty much every power is important and you'll want to take. I have a bio/rad tank and he's nigh indestructible. I took tough/weave and Maneuvers to bump everything up just a wee bit more.

I'm not at my PC, but I can post my build if you want. (I use Mids reborn and it never posts powers/slots/IOs...just a link. Wish I could figure out why)

I'd appreciate it. Leveling I referenced in mids a Dark/staff tank and a Bio/Spines tank and ended up taking all powers, although the ranged Serpent's Reach one I see as a power just for slotting and thus not as important. The DA/Staff one used it for 6 slot Superior Winter's Bite, so seems good anyways. Staff has 7 attacks and I find in end I use 6 of them (current Serpent's being kept off in a corner) and then taunt and it works well even if a bit of a spread of 1-7 keys. I attached the DA/Staff build for reference for you. I'd attach the other but you know Bio well it seems. Bio is the bomb! New favorite defensive set even over Shield and WP which were my old gotos on live.

I'm open to any epic pool as long as it helps either for aggro or hitting caps. I just really love this combo and want him to be his best but I'm so new back I am lost on making a final build. If you could tweak your build for staff, I'd love ya forever.

DA-Staff Tank.mxd

Edited February 22, 2020 by Stormangel
added thoughts

Xandyr · February 22, 2020

Hope fully you can see this. Here's my build on my Bio/Rad Tank.

In OFFENSIVE stance, here's his stats:

DEFENSE:

Smash/Lethal 39.2

Fire/Cold 51.3

Energy/N. Energy 47.8

Psi 32.9

Melee 38.6

Ranged 22.6

AoE: 26.7

RESISTS

Smash/Lethal 76

Fire/Cold 24.5

Energy/N. Energy 26

Toxic 56.8

Psi 13.8

Regenerating 96.3 hp/sec and has 2734 HP

In DEFENSIVE Stance:

DEFENSE:

Smash/Lethal 49.2

Fire/Cold 59.9

Energy/N Energy 56.5

Psi 38.1

Melee 38.6

Ranged 22.6

AoE 26.7

RESISTS:

Capped Smash/Lethal (93.08)

Fire/Cold 33.6

Energy/N Energy 35.1

Toxic 73.9

Psi 22.6

Regenerating 96.3 HP/Sec and has 2902 HP.

I went for set bonuses that increase Regeneration and HP mainly, then added in some defense/resist. It may not be the absolute best, or a "Proc Monster", but I don't die. I hold aggro, and live...which is what tankers do. Damage isn't bad either 😜

Yomo Kimyata · February 22, 2020

I think this was something I was working towards, but I got distracted:

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

Mister Binx: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Bio Armor
Secondary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Hardened Carapace
(A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(43) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(45) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
(46) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 1: Mercurial Blow
(A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 2: Precise Strike
(A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime
(3) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(9) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(42) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(42) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb

Level 4: Guarded Spin
(A) Obliteration - Damage
(5) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(5) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(9) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 6: Adaptation
Level 8: Inexhaustible
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod

Level 10: Environmental Modification
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge

Level 12: Evolving Armor
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(13) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
(37) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 14: Ablative Carapace
(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
(15) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
(15) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
(34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
(34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
(34) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 16: Eye of the Storm
(A) Armageddon - Damage
(17) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(17) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(23) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(27) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(33) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 18: DNA Siphon
(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
(19) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
(19) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
(21) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
(21) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
(23) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 20: Staff Mastery
Level 22: Kick
(A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 24: Tough
(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
(27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 26: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge

Level 28: Serpent's Reach
(A) Apocalypse - Damage
(29) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
(29) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
(31) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(31) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 30: Taunt
(A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage

Level 32: Parasitic Aura
(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
(33) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
(33) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge

Level 35: Innocuous Strikes
(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
(36) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
(36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(37) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown

Level 38: Sky Splitter
(A) Hecatomb - Damage
(39) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
(40) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
(40) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 41: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(42) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(45) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(45) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 47: Genetic Contamination
(A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge
(48) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(48) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)

Level 49: Super Jump
(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty

Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush
(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge
(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty

Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
(A) Empty

Level 2: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 2: Hurdle
(A) Empty

Level 2: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 1:   Combo Level 1
Level 1:   Combo Level 2
Level 1:   Combo Level 3
Level 6:   Defensive Adaptation
Level 6:   Efficient Adaptation
Level 6:   Offensive Adaptation
Level 20:   Form of the Body
Level 20:   Form of the Mind
Level 20:   Form of the Soul
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Xandyr · February 22, 2020

How is staff anyway? Haven't tried it out yet.

Stormangel · February 23, 2020

6 hours ago, Xandyr said:

How is staff anyway? Haven't tried it out yet.

I love it! Like Bio it has 3 forms, so together u have a lot of flexibility. Every move builds up a counter that feeds into an aoe (Eye of the Storm) and a single attack (Sky Splitter) at 3 for additional damage and effect based on what Staff Form u are using. Together I found leveling really easy, although I attribute that more to the amazing power of Bio Armor. Staff has 3 aoes, which means I need to taunt less optimally thanks to gauntlet. Eye of the Storm has a great animation that is a bit long but fun to watch as it is very cappoeira style, so I call it my Disco Spin.

Thank you for taking the time to help me. This is exactly what I was looking for. I like how DNA Siphon is a proc monster.

What Alpha did you go for? Musculature, Vigor and Resilent all seem viable. I want to be tank first, so figuring musculature is the least useful since damage is less important than survivability.

Xandyr · February 23, 2020

I actually took Musculature bc I found I didnt really need any of the other buffs (defense, resist, etc). Recharge would be helpful just to get your powers back quicker. I suppose if you wanted to go overboard you could swap it for another to gain defense and recharge.

FatherCronos · May 28, 2021

Xandyr, i tried to copy your build in Mids reborn, but i only got to 400% regen...do you have a mids link i could check out? Thinking its just a bug.

Oysterhead · May 28, 2021

8 hours ago, FatherCronos said:

Xandyr, i tried to copy your build in Mids reborn, but i only got to 400% regen...do you have a mids link i could check out? Thinking its just a bug.

Do you have Parasitic Aura active when looking at totals? And/or set at a number of targets in the Info window? Parasitic Aura adds massive regen per target hit so that is likely it. Also DNA Siphon adds regen per target hit, so you'd need to a set a target number on that, though its a smaller effect per.

Edited May 28, 2021 by Oysterhead

JJDrakken · May 28, 2021

On 2/13/2020 at 12:37 AM, Stormangel said:

Not worried on travel powers but Combat Jump is always nice. I'm just loving this toon Blood Brother on reunion and am now 46. I'm looking for help to make this guy as tough as possible so he can tank anything in game but I suck on sets and still new to incarnate system. Been using a dark/staff build as reference but I want to hit caps as best as possible. Thanks in advance if someone could help me here.

Just go here and Request:

Xandyr · June 1, 2021

On 5/27/2021 at 11:20 PM, FatherCronos said:

Xandyr, i tried to copy your build in Mids reborn, but i only got to 400% regen...do you have a mids link i could check out? Thinking its just a bug.

Check and see if you have DNA Siphon and Parasitic Aura clicked on. As was stated, Parasitic can add a LOT of regen based on # of targets hit.

I also think some of my enhancements are boosted.

And I now have like 5 Staffers...Staff may not be considered the "best" or the most damaging, but it is just FUN. And with the Tanker's added ranges/targets, you hit everything. I think my favorite Staffer is my Staff/Bio brute (although Fire/Staff tank has DOTs for DAYS).

Ankylosaur · October 9, 2021

On 6/1/2021 at 5:24 PM, Xandyr said:

I think my favorite Staffer is my Staff/Bio brute (although Fire/Staff tank has DOTs for DAYS).

@Xandyr I recently got a Staff/Bio Brute to 50 and am trying to pull together a build from what was shared above. Would you be willing to share yours?

I'm loving the combo - thematically I so want to keep spirit Shark instead of Serpent's reach, but not sure its worth it. 🙂

Edited October 9, 2021 by Ankylosaur

Xandyr · October 10, 2021

13 hours ago, Ankylosaur said:

@Xandyr I recently got a Staff/Bio Brute to 50 and am trying to pull together a build from what was shared above. Would you be willing to share yours?

I'm loving the combo - thematically I so want to keep spirit Shark instead of Serpent's reach, but not sure its worth it. 🙂

Here ya go. With Bio, keep in mind that your Resistances will kinda stink, but you can soft cap most of your typed defenses. Plus, with Ablative, DNA Siphon, and Parasitic Aura, you can stand up to most anything thrown at you.

I've really gotten into my WP/Staff Tank. I like the extra range and # of targets that Tanks can hit. Plus, it's a welcome change of pace not having to click on your heals...WP is a nice "set and forget" powerset.

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.9
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Precise Strike -- PndSlg-Dmg/EndRdx:30(A), PndSlg-Acc/Dmg:30(21), PndSlg-Dmg/Rchg:30(34)
Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- GldArm-3defTpProc:50(A), GldArm-ResDam:50(19), GldArm-End/Res:50(19), ImpSki-Status:30(21), ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx:30(50)
Level 2: Inexhaustible -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), RgnTss-Regen+:30(3)
Level 4: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(5), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(5), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg:50(17)
Level 6: Guarded Spin -- SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(7), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg:50(7), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg:50(13), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End:50(15), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15)
Level 8: Eye of the Storm -- SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg:50(9), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%:50(11), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(13)
Level 10: Staff Mastery
Level 12: Adaptation
Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Ablative Carapace -- NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg:50(A), Mrc-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(17), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), Mrc-Heal/Rchg:40(50)
Level 18: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), StdPrt-ResDam/EndRdx:30(23)
Level 20: Evolving Armor -- UnbGrd-Max HP%:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam:50(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(27)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(27), ShlWal-Def:50(29), ShlWal-Def/Rchg:50(29), Rct-Def:40(31), Rct-ResDam%:40(31)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(31), ShlWal-Def:50(33), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(33), Ksm-ToHit+:30(33)
Level 26: Innocuous Strikes -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg:50(34), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc:50(34), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(36)
Level 28: DNA Siphon -- Erd-%Dam:30(A), Erd-Acc/Rchg:30(37), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(37), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(37), Erd-Dmg:30(39), Erd-Dmg/Rchg:30(50)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 32: Sky Splitter -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(46), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(48)
Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%:50(A), Arm-Dam%:50(42), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Erd-%Dam:30(42), Erd-Acc/Rchg:30(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(43)
Level 38: Parasitic Aura -- TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen:30(A), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:30(39), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal:30(39), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg:50(40), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(40)
Level 41: Superior Conditioning -- PwrTrns-+Heal:50(A)
Level 44: Serpent's Reach -- SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg:50(45), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(45), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(45), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(46), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc:50(46)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow:50(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(3)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 10: Form of the Body
Level 10: Form of the Mind
Level 10: Form of the Soul
Level 12: Defensive Adaptation
Level 12: Efficient Adaptation
Level 12: Offensive Adaptation
Level 49: Double Jump
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Ankylosaur · October 11, 2021

@Xandyr

Thanks! I have a WP/Titan tank stalled at around lvl 40 - the animations are just SO SLOWWW. Have seen an Invuln/Staff in action and she seems pretty strong too (in that it is also set and forget).

Maybe I will dust him off my old tank again too.

On my first respec experimenting with this, I don't have maneuvers, or an epic pool. I ended up working in Spring Attack for fun and a proc. With that and the 3 staff KB powers I have 4 Force Feedback recharge procs going which helps a little to keep those healing powers up and available.

Edited October 11, 2021 by Ankylosaur

ZemX · October 11, 2021

On 2/22/2020 at 8:18 PM, Stormangel said:

Every move builds up a counter that feeds into an aoe (Eye of the Storm) and a single attack (Sky Splitter) at 3 for additional damage and effect based on what Staff Form u are using.

On my Rad/Staffer I used the other stances a bit while leveling but I hardly ever am out of Form of Body these days now that my build is complete.

Form of Body's Sky Splitter bonus gives +13.3% res(ALL) to a Tanker for 15s making the "damage" stance for Staff, ironically, the most defensive. And it's easy to keep that rolling if you want. I put MoT in Eye of the Storm and use it as a builder instead of a finisher. So MoT procs two or three times reliably for 12 to 18% res(All). That's a whopping 25.3 to 31.3% +res between them. On my Rad/Staffer this caps everything but Cold resist and makes it that much harder for anything to eat my Absorb shield before it refreshes. Gauntleted Fist went in Guarded Spin, so it too has a decent chance to add a bit of absorb to what I already have in Particle Shielding.

Staff's AoEs were generously sized to begin with so the Tanker inherent just makes them huge (for melee anyway). Eye of the Storm is as big as Foot Stomp, a little faster to recharge, and available at 16 instead of 38 which I love because I exemplar a ton. Easily gets and keeps the attention of an entire spawn just by itself. And if used as the finisher it deals -10% res, so while I leave my Staff Mastery set on Form of Body all the time, I kind of switch between offensive and defensive "mode" just by deciding which one to use as the finisher. Sky Splitter if I want to be tougher. Eye of the Storm if I want to deal more damage.

I think what keeps a lot of people from trying Staff is it just doesn't "feel" like it's doing a lot of damage. It's not a slow set that deals big orange numbers. It's fast and tends to deal it's damage as short duration DoTs. It's decent damage. Maybe middle of the pack. But it feels like less.

Xandyr · October 12, 2021

On 10/11/2021 at 8:10 AM, Ankylosaur said:

@Xandyr

Thanks! I have a WP/Titan tank stalled at around lvl 40 - the animations are just SO SLOWWW. Have seen an Invuln/Staff in action and she seems pretty strong too (in that it is also set and forget).

Maybe I will dust him off my old tank again too.

On my first respec experimenting with this, I don't have maneuvers, or an epic pool. I ended up working in Spring Attack for fun and a proc. With that and the 3 staff KB powers I have 4 Force Feedback recharge procs going which helps a little to keep those healing powers up and available.

I simply can NOT get into Titan Weapons. It's just so freakin slow.

I'm sure Invuln is great, but I can't get into it either. As far as tank primaries, I love WP, Rad, Bio, and Dark.

And you're welcome. Hope my build gave you some ideas.

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