Staff / Bio Forms

[hakurr]

So i saw a thread that someone mentioned about the forms of both Bio armor and staff fighting does anyone have experience with this does it make a big difference in the characters abilities?  i mean can you run damage on one and endurance on the other or get more damage running both as damage it really could have some potential here.

[SeraphimKensai]

I have a lvl 50 bio/staff tank basically you can adjust your forms and never run out of endurance, or do more damage, or be more resilient. You get 1 of each at the same time, and their effects aren't mutually exclusive so it works really well.

[hakurr]

thank you i might just need to try it out as a scrapper

 

[00Troy00]

On 4/4/2020 at 8:39 PM, SeraphimKensai said:

I have a lvl 50 bio/staff tank basically you can adjust your forms and never run out of endurance, or do more damage, or be more resilient. You get 1 of each at the same time, and their effects aren't mutually exclusive so it works really well.

Have you tried this on a crapper or a brute?

[Pzn]

1 hour ago, 00Troy00 said:

Have you tried this on a crapper or a brute?

I'll test it on the toilet later

[Bill Z Bubba]

1 hour ago, 00Troy00 said:

Have you tried this on a crapper or a brute?

I've got a staff/bio scrapper. Or maybe she's a brute. Either way, she runs with both +dam forms and it works great.

[towgod98258]

Anybody willing to share their Mid's Build ? 

 

[Silverado]

On 4/25/2020 at 11:28 AM, josh1622 said:

I'll test it on the toilet later

Be sure to announce "brb bio" before you run the test.

[Yomo Kimyata]

On 8/2/2020 at 3:17 PM, towgod98258 said:

Anybody willing to share their Mid's Build ? 

 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1546&c=715&a=1430&f=HEX&dc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

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Precise Strike            SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(13)
Level 1:    Hardened Carapace        StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(15), UnbGrd-ResDam(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(23)
Level 2:    Guarded Spin            SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Obl-%Dam(5), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48)
Level 4:    Environmental Modification        LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45), Rct-ResDam%(45)
Level 6:    Eye of the Storm        SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(7), Obl-Dmg(9), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), FrcFdb-Rechg%(48)
Level 8:    Inexhaustible            NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 10:    Staff Mastery    
Level 12:    Adaptation    
Level 14:    Combat Jumping            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 16:    Ablative Carapace        Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Pnc-Heal(40), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(43), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(45), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 18:    Serpent's Reach            Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(19), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Apc-Acc/Rchg(21), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(21), FrcFdb-Rechg%(46)
Level 20:    Evolving Armor            UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 22:    Kick                FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 24:    Tough                UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 26:    Innocuous Strikes        SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(46)
Level 28:    DNA Siphon            TchoftheN-%Dam(A), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(29), Arm-Dam%(29), Obl-%Dam(34), Erd-%Dam(34), Obl-Acc/Rchg(36)
Level 30:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(31), LucoftheG-Def(31)
Level 32:    Sky Splitter            Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(48)
Level 35:    Spirit Shark            FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 38:    Parasitic Aura            Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(39), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Prv-Heal/Rchg(39), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(40), Prv-Absorb%(40)
Level 41:    Arctic Breath            ShlBrk-%Dam(A), PstBls-Dam%(42), Ann-ResDeb%(42), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(42), AchHee-ResDeb%(43), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 44:    Genetic Contamination        OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(50), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 47:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49:    Super Jump            WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Dash        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Slide        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Quick        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Rush        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Surge        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 4:    Ninja Run    
Level 2:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Health                Mrc-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1:    Combo Level 1    
Level 1:    Combo Level 2    
Level 1:    Combo Level 3    
Level 10:    Form of the Body    
Level 10:    Form of the Mind    
Level 10:    Form of the Soul    
Level 12:    Defensive Adaptation    
Level 12:    Efficient Adaptation    
Level 12:    Offensive Adaptation    
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[Ankylosaur]

@Yomo Kimyata - liking the look of this build!

 

I recently reached 50 with my staff/bio brute and went Leviathan for thematic reasons, but I see you make good use of the Artic Breath debuffs. I'm looking to start investing in some enhancement sets, and this looks right up my ally.

 

A few questions though...

• no slotting in health or stamina - that works?
• hasten is two slotted because of the IOs?
• do you miss mercurial blow as a fast attack? 
• do you actually ever use kick or spirit shark to trigger the force feedbacks?
• how survivable is this build?
• have you tweaked it since it was shared?

Edited October 9, 2021 by Ankylosaur

[Yomo Kimyata]

On 10/9/2021 at 11:13 AM, Ankylosaur said:

@Yomo Kimyata - liking the look of this build!

 

I recently reached 50 with my staff/bio brute and went Leviathan for thematic reasons, but I see you make good use of the Artic Breath debuffs. I'm looking to start investing in some enhancement sets, and this looks right up my ally.

 

A few questions though...

• no slotting in health or stamina - that works?
• hasten is two slotted because of the IOs?
• do you miss mercurial blow as a fast attack? 
• do you actually ever use kick or spirit shark to trigger the force feedbacks?
• how survivable is this build?
• have you tweaked it since it was shared?

 

Hiya--

 

Lemme answer your questions in reverse order, since there are indeed some changes I would make to it today.

 

*  The main changes I would make today is to make sure to put a Theft of Essence +end proc in DNA Siphon and Parasitic Aura, and to swap sets and put Panacea in Parasitic Aura and Preventative Medicine in Ablative Carapace.  Some other rejigging, and I would do something like this (still a W.I.P.)  Slots are harder to find, so I cut back Arctic Breath to a debuff mechanism.

 

Spoiler

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Level 50 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Precise Strike    
 (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
 (40) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
 (43) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (46) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (48) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 1:    Hardened Carapace    
 (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
 (15) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
 (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (42) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2:    Guarded Spin    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (5) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (11) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 4:    Environmental Modification    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 6:    Eye of the Storm    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (7) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (7) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (9) Obliteration - Damage
 (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 8:    Staff Mastery    
Level 10:    Adaptation    
Level 12:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (13) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
 (13) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 14:    Kick    
 (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 16:    Ablative Carapace    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
 (17) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (17) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (36) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (37) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (37) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 18:    Serpent's Reach    
 (A) Apocalypse - Damage
 (19) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
 (19) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (21) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
 (36) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance

Level 20:    Evolving Armor    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (43) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (46) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 22:    Tough    
 (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
 (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
 (23) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
 (25) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 24:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (25) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26:    Innocuous Strikes    
 (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (27) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime
 (27) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (34) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (36) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (50) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End

Level 28:    DNA Siphon    
 (A) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
 (29) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
 (29) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (31) Energy Manipulator - Chance to Stun
 (31) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 30:    Inexhaustible    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 32:    Sky Splitter    
 (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
 (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
 (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
 (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (34) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
 (34) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 35:    Spirit Shark    
 (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 38:    Parasitic Aura    
 (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
 (39) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
 (39) Panacea - Heal/Recharge
 (39) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
 (40) Panacea - Heal
 (40) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance

Level 41:    Arctic Breath    
 (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff
 (42) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 44:    Genetic Contamination    
 (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
 (45) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
 (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (46) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 47:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 49:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
 (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty

Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Combo Level 1    
Level 1:    Combo Level 2    
Level 1:    Combo Level 3    
Level 8:    Form of the Body    
Level 8:    Form of the Mind    
Level 8:    Form of the Soul    
Level 10:    Defensive Adaptation    
Level 10:    Efficient Adaptation    
Level 10:    Offensive Adaptation    
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* Quite survivable.  North of 40 melee defense even without the Guarded Spin bonus (which puts you in the mid 50s I think.)  Good (not exceptional) resistances in offensive mode.  Two heals that are generally up every 30-40 seconds.

 

* Not really, I use those as place holders.  Although if I am closing in on melee I might use spirit shark.  But you can definitely leave those empty if you wish.

 

* Nope, don't miss it at all.  I've only used it on a tanker, and then I would add an Achilles Heel on the off chance that it would trigger.  This is primarily an AoE build, and with so much recharge one or more of your aoE attacks is pretty much available all the time.

 

* Yes, those two slots are supposed to be boosted to +5.  I never bother to fill that in in Mids.  With so many +recharge procs, you will easily be perma hasten.

 

* I've never had a blue bar problem.  With the Theft of Essence procs, both DNA siphon and Parasitic Aura are blue bar fillers so long as you have a few enemies near.  It's been awhile since I fought AVs with this build, so there is a chance that you might need blue inspirations for long fights against a single target.

[Ankylosaur]

@Yomo Kimyata

 

Thanks for this! I took a run at a build based on this and another I found and am loving it.

 

Love the Force feedback proc idea. 

 

Some of my changes

• I ended up without an Epic PP and just SS and SJ so I could get more slots.
• I did take Spring Attack for fun, a slight splash of Knockdown crowd control, and for just one more Force Feedback that actually does trigger occasionally. 
• I couldn't fund the whole thing yet, but looking among the unbuilt recipes from other toons I ended up with three each of Panacea and Preventative for now - both sets in Ablative
• I am using Touch of the Nictus for the Accuracy on DNA and Parasitic

 

It's been loads of fun. 

 

Also - was it you who did the TO contest recently? If so - it was that that helped fund me as I leveled a new toon! 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Ankylosaur