Power Transfer Heal Proc not stacking

[SuperPlyx]

This is one Power Transfer Proc slotted in Stamina on my Blaster. As you can see it is 3ppm

Edited May 28, 2020 by SuperPlyx

[Bopper]

4 minutes ago, SuperPlyx said:

 

This is one Power Transfer Proc slotted in Stamina on my Blaster. As you can see it is 3ppm

I was able to work with Icecomet on Discord. The PT proc was slotted in Frigid Protection, which has a 30 foot radius, however none of the endurance modification effects apply to targets. It is only a self recovery buff. So you suffer from a huge area factor, while not being able to proc off multiple targets, so the expected probability to proc every 10 seconds was 11.43%. This equates to 0.686 procs per minute.

 

Odds are, it was a run of bad luck going 12 minutes without one proc. I mean...really bad luck, like 1 in 10,000 kind of bad luck. But they also followed up that dry spell with 2 more procs in 4 minutes, which is reasonable.

[WindDemon21]

On 5/27/2020 at 9:32 PM, SuperPlyx said:

Gotta say I agree with Bopper , a Willpower Brute with Energy Mastery Ancillary could slot 4 Power Transfer Procs. And I am not sure that 4 of these proccing 3ppm is what was intended.

And they will proc at random, only every 10 seconds. I would easily say especially on willpower, who is in the 1000% range for regen wouldn't notice this much at all actually. It's sets like invlun that *should* be getting the biggest benefit from these procs, but is really only getting the benefit from about 1.5 of them.

[WindDemon21]

The best option at this point would be to give it a dual nature kinda like the impervious skin, where the heal proc aspect is unique with may maybe a higher proc rate or heal value, but then has a secondary effect that is not like mez resistance. That way you can slot more than one of them, but still get the benefit of it's secondary effect.

[Bopper]

3 minutes ago, WindDemon21 said:

The best option at this point would be to give it a dual nature kinda like the impervious skin, where the heal proc aspect is unique with may maybe a higher proc rate or heal value, but then has a secondary effect that is not like mez resistance. That way you can slot more than one of them, but still get the benefit of it's secondary effect.

They certainly can do this. They could make it 2 PPM and unique with a 10% or 15% HP. You'll make a lot of electric players unhappy, but you'll get more out of doing a single slot of the proc in stamina. You can suggest doing that in the suggestion forums.

[WindDemon21]

Honestly I've even tried to make builds with elec blast/melee, and just couldn't quite fit it for a good enough use versus other bonuses/enhancement values.

 

No need to reduce it's PPM, about 10 or 15% at 3ppm still makes sense, cause then it would be better than panacea, who does two values. It should still have more than that especially if it was unique. I think this would be the best solution, cause trying to find a way to unbug, seems a lot more difficult.

[Bopper]

14 minutes ago, WindDemon21 said:

Honestly I've even tried to make builds with elec blast/melee, and just couldn't quite fit it for a good enough use versus other bonuses/enhancement values.

 

No need to reduce it's PPM, about 10 or 15% at 3ppm still makes sense, cause then it would be better than panacea, who does two values. It should still have more than that especially if it was unique. I think this would be the best solution, cause trying to find a way to unbug, seems a lot more difficult.

If it's going to be treated like Call of the Sandman, and work like Call of the Sandman, it needs to not have a higher PPM than Call of the Sandman, especially given how easy it is to slot PT into Stamina whereas Sleep attacks require effort to include in a build.

 

3 PPM at 15% is equivalent to being able to slot 3 of the 5%, yet get to do it all in one slot. That's uber-OP, especially for a proc that is already stronger than all the other unique regen enhancements.

[WindDemon21]

1 hour ago, Bopper said:

If it's going to be treated like Call of the Sandman, and work like Call of the Sandman, it needs to not have a higher PPM than Call of the Sandman, especially given how easy it is to slot PT into Stamina whereas Sleep attacks require effort to include in a build.

 

3 PPM at 15% is equivalent to being able to slot 3 of the 5%, yet get to do it all in one slot. That's uber-OP, especially for a proc that is already stronger than all the other unique regen enhancements.

I was thinking 10%, that way it's a little better than panacea and not op.

[Bopper]

6 minutes ago, WindDemon21 said:

I was thinking 10%, that way it's a little better than panacea and not op.

That can probably be negotiated. Worth asking for on Suggestions Forums

[Duck-Smokes-Quack]

On 5/31/2020 at 9:43 PM, Bopper said:

That can probably be negotiated. Worth asking for on Suggestions Forums

Sorry to bring up an old thread but Ive just been gleefully updating my MA/SR build (having previously not known this proc existed thanks to an outdated mids version)

But I come here to find that theres no benifit slotting more than 1 in an auto power?
My search fu is failing me but do you know if this was ever a confirmed bug that is going to be fixed? Or is this how it is?
(I dont mind it being a unqiue if they intend to change it - it would just be good to know!)

[WindDemon21]

It gets about halved diminishing returns, so it would be better off with double the heal or proc chance, but be unique for the heal portion.

[Bopper]

8 hours ago, Duck-Smokes-Quack said:

Sorry to bring up an old thread but Ive just been gleefully updating my MA/SR build (having previously not known this proc existed thanks to an outdated mids version)

But I come here to find that theres no benifit slotting more than 1 in an auto power?
My search fu is failing me but do you know if this was ever a confirmed bug that is going to be fixed? Or is this how it is?
(I dont mind it being a unqiue if they intend to change it - it would just be good to know!)

Check out this thread, read all of it for details.

 

 

[Duck-Smokes-Quack]

11 hours ago, Bopper said:

Check out this thread, read all of it for details.

 

 

Hey thanks dont know how I managed to not find this!

Must have been the colon throwing off the search