pvp pvp scrapper vs brute

[j3lly]

here's short question for pro PVPers:
in lvl 50+ melee pvp, who has higher chances to win 1v1: scrapper or brute? considering best 1v1 melee pvp builds, enhancements and endgame stuff for this fight both for scrapper and brute side.

Edited August 25, 2020 by j3lly

[barrier]

neither should ever die if played without roleplaying rules.

[Dan Petro]

If both players are using all the tools they have available to them, neither will die if played correctly. 

[j3lly]

On 8/30/2020 at 7:38 AM, Dan Petro said:

If both players are using all the tools they have available to them, neither will die if played correctly. 

wow so they really can fight for eternity? I meant if none of them would be running away or anything just fighting in melee?
I was told on Domitable server that scrapper would win bc of the double damage crits by some1 who seemed 2 know a lot about pvp

Edited September 1, 2020 by j3lly

[macskull]

Moving around would fall under the "using all the tools they have available to them" and "if played without roleplaying rules" categories. If you're going to both just stand there and press buttons until one of you dies, then of course the AT with the higher damage is going to win. But that's pretty boring PvP.

[Dan Petro]

You have to take a good bit away to actually die in melee 1 v 1's.  Incarnates powers, inspirations, movement powers are a start.  After that you have things like hiber and sometimes phase being able to hard reset encounters every ~120 seconds.    And even if you ignore all that stuff, there are still plenty of builds, sets, etc that will end up in a draw if they just stand still fighting each other.  Tanks get ~1100 points of absorb built into their attack chain every 15 ish seconds, powers like unrelenting and aid self can give any set massive amounts of sustain. 

 

Sets like Rad melee have a 20% heal you can fully enhance on a 10 second CD.  For perspective, reconstruction from regen is a 25% heal on a 60 second CD.