Qabal Posted December 22, 2020 Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Spring Attack is broken. I'm level 32, and I kept hitting the same groups of clockwork (level 34s) with my fully slotted Spring Attack (FF +recharge and 5 Sirocco [no proc]) and hit for 37 damage every time. I then unslotted it completely, and I continued to hit the same clockwork for 37 damage every time. I also tried loading it up with 4 damage procs. I know the pseudo-pet nature makes damage proc inconsistent (Can that be changed?), but I never once got a single proc to fire. On the other hand, I put one damage proc into Lightning Rod, and while it didn't proc every time I used the skill, it did proc. I monitored all of this through the Pet tab. On a side note, using Build Up right before Spring Attack still increases it's damage. Edited December 22, 2020 by Qabal 2
LQT Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 Tried testing this on a 50 MA/EA brute I have. Pseudo-pet nature of the attack means it doesn't even show up in the combat log until you add in "Pet damage inflicted" so that was a slight bump on things to start with. Power tooltip reads as: Quote 34.21 smashing damage on target after 1.00s delay 69.34 smashing damage on target after 1.00s delay 66.00% chance for 0.67 magnitude knock on target after 1.00s delay Expand So should see 2 data points for damage inflicted on mobs, will refer to these as full damage [70~ from tooltip], and [extra] half damage [35~] as ratio is near 2:1 for 69.34:34.21Test conditions: 1. Testing alpha strike only, so no Fury modifier in play. 2. Testing against level 50 CoT Possessed Scientists outside Portal Corp. Sometimes 3 minions, sometimes 3 minions + 3 LTs. Minions con white, LTs con yellow. First test: 5 slotted Obliteration, Attuned, [IOs 2-6]IO Effects:Value of note: Average Damage: +66.3% Vs 3 minions, No BU: Reveal hidden contents Hit rolls: Reveal hidden contents [15:07:34] You activated the Spring Attack power. [15:07:35] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 30.63. [15:07:35] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 77.06. [15:07:35] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 74.15. SA hits everything. Damage done: Reveal hidden contents [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:07:36] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! All 3 mobs take 46~ full damage and extra half damage of 23~. No Obliteration proc observed in combat log or floating text above mobs. Vs 3 minions + 3 LT, No BU: Reveal hidden contents Hit rolls: Reveal hidden contents [15:08:30] You activated the Spring Attack power. [15:08:31] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 80.15. [15:08:31] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 74.95. [15:08:31] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 23.13. [15:08:31] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 85.28. [15:08:31] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 46.40. [15:08:31] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 94.60. SA hits everything. Damage done: Reveal hidden contents [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:08:32] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! All 6 take 46~ full damage, only 3 take 23~ extra half damage however. Extra half damage portion appears to be a "chance of" effect despite not being labelled as such in tooltip. Repeated tests on groups would always have full damage occur however extra half damage would not always trigger. No Obliteration proc observed in combat log or floating text. Second test: Unslotted Obliteration proc.IO Effects: Same as previous test, only change is reduction in global recharge due to proc IO granting nothing not bonus chance of damage.Vs 3 minions, No BU: Reveal hidden contents Hit Rolls: Reveal hidden contents [15:17:35] You activated the Spring Attack power. [15:17:35] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 87.92. [15:17:35] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 30.68. [15:17:35] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 34.13. SA hits everything. Damage done: Reveal hidden contents [15:17:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:17:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:17:36] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:17:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:17:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:17:36] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:17:36] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. 3 take full damage, 2 take extra half damage. Vs 3 minions + 3 LTs, No BU: Reveal hidden contents Hit Rolls: Reveal hidden contents [15:25:59] You activated the Spring Attack power. [15:25:59] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 80.77. [15:25:59] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 23.63. [15:25:59] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 39.92. [15:25:59] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 41.23. [15:25:59] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 5.37. [15:26:00] Spring Attack: MISSED Possessed Scientist!! Your Spring Attack power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 95.83. SA hits 5 of 6, missing 1 of the minions. Damage done: Reveal hidden contents [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 45.87 points of Smashing damage. [15:26:01] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! Of the 5 hit, all take full damage of 46~, 3 take extra half damage of 23~. Third test: Completely unslotted SA of remaining 4 Obliteration IOs. IO effects: None. Vs 3 minions, No BU: Reveal hidden contents Hit Rolls: Reveal hidden contents [15:45:50] You activated the Spring Attack power. [15:45:51] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 88.29% chance to hit, you rolled a 47.16. [15:45:51] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 88.29% chance to hit, you rolled a 36.26. [15:45:51] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 88.29% chance to hit, you rolled a 68.30. SA hits everything. Damage done: Reveal hidden contents [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.01 points of Smashing damage. [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.01 points of Smashing damage. [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.01 points of Smashing damage. [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [15:45:52] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! 3 mobs take 45~ full damage, 3 take 22~ extra half damage. Vs 3 minions + 3 LTs, No BU: Reveal hidden contents Hit Rolls: Reveal hidden contents [16:27:04] You activated the Spring Attack power. [16:27:05] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 75.21% chance to hit, you rolled a 26.55. [16:27:05] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 88.29% chance to hit, you rolled a 48.94. [16:27:05] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 88.29% chance to hit, you rolled a 23.68. [16:27:05] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 75.21% chance to hit, you rolled a 60.55. [16:27:05] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 88.29% chance to hit, you rolled a 39.09. [16:27:05] Spring Attack: HIT Possessed Scientist! Your Spring Attack power had a 75.21% chance to hit, you rolled a 62.91. SA hit everything. Damage done: Reveal hidden contents [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.01 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.01 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 22.01 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 44.62 points of Smashing damage. [16:27:06] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! 6 mobs take full damage of 45~, 3 mobs take extra half damage of 22~. Extra info: Reveal hidden contents Damage with BU only, 5 IOs including proc + 4 IOs no proc. Quote [15:29:33] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 39.08 points of Smashing damage. [15:29:33] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 79.23 points of Smashing damage. Expand Damage with BU + Gauss proc. 5 IOs including proc + 4 IOs no proc. Quote [15:28:00] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 55.54 points of Smashing damage. [15:28:00] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 112.6 points of Smashing damage. Expand Damage with BU + Gauss proc, no IOs. Quote [15:54:35] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 54.93 points of Smashing damage. [15:54:35] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 111.35 points of Smashing damage. Expand Fourth test: Procs Testing non attuned Armageddon, attuned Eradication, Force Feedback, Explosive Strike, and Scirocco's Dervish procs, [4 damage, 1 effect]. Grabbed 7 minions, 3 LTs, spammed SA to watch for procs. Reveal hidden contents First SA. Reveal hidden contents [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 54.14 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 109.75 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 109.75 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 109.75 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 54.14 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 109.75 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 54.14 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 109.75 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 54.14 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 109.75 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 60.09 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 121.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 60.09 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 121.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 60.09 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 121.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 60.09 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 121.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:47:26] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! Second SA Reveal hidden contents [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 63.23 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 128.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 128.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 63.23 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 128.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 63.23 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 128.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 63.23 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 128.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 63.23 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 128.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 70.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 142.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 70.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 142.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 70.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 142.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 70.19 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 142.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:48:11] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! Third SA Reveal hidden contents [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 35.5 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 71.97 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 71.97 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 35.5 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 71.97 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 35.5 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 71.97 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 35.5 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 71.97 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 35.5 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 71.97 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 39.41 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 79.89 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 39.41 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 79.89 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 39.41 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 79.89 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 39.41 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 79.89 points of Smashing damage. [16:49:45] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! Fourth SA Reveal hidden contents [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 82.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 166.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 166.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 82.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 166.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 82.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 166.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 82.29 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 166.82 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 91.35 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 185.17 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 91.35 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 185.17 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 91.35 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You hit Possessed Scientist with your Spring Attack for 185.17 points of Smashing damage. [16:50:58] Spring Attack: You knock Possessed Scientist off their feet with your Spring Attack! No observations of damage procs. FF proc did occur. Final Observations:Slotting Spring Attack right now seems to be completely pointless beyond FF procs. Damage dealt as a level 50 MA/EA brute to even level minions and LTs with no slotting in SA is 22.01+44.62 [66.63 total]. Damage dealt as a level 50 MA/EA brute to even level minions and LTs with 4 Obliteration IOs/5 IOs including proc results in 22.62+45.87 [68.49] (68.49/66.63)*100 = 102.792~ That's less than 3% of an increase despite the in game tooltip suggesting the slotted IOs should increase damage done by 66.3%, which would require slotted damage done values of 36.6+74.2 for around 110.8 damage total. While BU and the Gauss proc do increase damage done, slots are effectively useless in this power as raw numbers from IOs are nowhere near what they should be, [<3% vs 66.3%]. Testing for procs [non attuned Armageddon, attuned Eradication, Force Feedback, Explosive Strike, and Scirocco's Dervish] resulted in no observations of any damage proc firing, however the FF proc did fire. 1 1 If you set a man a flame, you keep him warm for a day. If you set a man aflame, you keep him warm for the rest of his life.
Bopper Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 Looks like this bug has been around for a while PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn
Qabal Posted December 24, 2020 Author Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/23/2020 at 4:55 PM, LQT said: (Some really helpful and detailed testing) Expand Thank you for being so thorough. It's nice to know it wasn't just me screwing it up somehow. Unfortunately, as Bopper pointed out, this bug has apparently been around for awhile, so I'm not hopeful it'll be fixed anytime soon. I still have Spring Attack in my build, currently slotted with the FF proc and two recharge reductions. It's so underwhelming that I'll likely spec out of it once I get some more area in my build (Shield Charge and Disruptor Blast in my case).
tidge Posted December 24, 2020 Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) Add me to the list of players that will be doing a respec out of Spring Attack. I had hoped to use this as a thematic attack on a particular character, but since that character is a Scrapper, this now feels like a waste. EDIT: I was disappointed with the power in use... but now I understand why! Edited December 24, 2020 by tidge 1
LQT Posted December 25, 2020 Posted December 25, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 6:14 AM, Qabal said: Thank you for being so thorough. It's nice to know it wasn't just me screwing it up somehow. Unfortunately, as Bopper pointed out, this bug has apparently been around for awhile, so I'm not hopeful it'll be fixed anytime soon. I still have Spring Attack in my build, currently slotted with the FF proc and two recharge reductions. It's so underwhelming that I'll likely spec out of it once I get some more area in my build (Shield Charge and Disruptor Blast in my case). Expand NP :) Had a toon with the power already and some free time to went a wandering to test. Only revised my methodology about 3 times >.> If you set a man a flame, you keep him warm for a day. If you set a man aflame, you keep him warm for the rest of his life.
AxerJ Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 Thank you so much for the superior testing. I love this power as it's one of the coolest looking, but I've been shocked by how little damage it was doing even with 5-slotted Obliteration on my scrapper. Great to know it has a bug. I've been trying to figure out which power to drop, and you've made my decision. Thanks again!
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