Worthy Opponent

[Ukase]

Figured I'd ask this here, rather than clumsily file a petition and possibly waste time for our hard-working dev team. One of my characters only needs Worthy Opponent and Legatus to be "complete". I'm not terribly into masochism (though being a badger might contradict that statement), so I'm going to wait until January for Legatus. At least, that's what I'm telling myself now. 

I was unclear how my character would fare without IO set bonuses, so I thought I would start the TF and take a look at my combat stats. But, I'm confused by what I see. 
Numina Regen/Recovery is active. 
Celerity: Stealth is active. 
Kismet 6% ToHit is active. 

I thought set bonuses were negated when you selected both "Old School Challenge" and "Master of Lord Recluse's Strike Force". 

Near as I can tell, my other set bonuses are negated. Am I missing something? 

[Glacier Peak]

4 minutes ago, Ukase said:

Figured I'd ask this here, rather than clumsily file a petition and possibly waste time for our hard-working dev team. One of my characters only needs Worthy Opponent and Legatus to be "complete". I'm not terribly into masochism (though being a badger might contradict that statement), so I'm going to wait until January for Legatus. At least, that's what I'm telling myself now. 

I was unclear how my character would fare without IO set bonuses, so I thought I would start the TF and take a look at my combat stats. But, I'm confused by what I see. 
Numina Regen/Recovery is active. 
Celerity: Stealth is active. 
Kismet 6% ToHit is active. 

I thought set bonuses were negated when you selected both "Old School Challenge" and "Master of Lord Recluse's Strike Force". 

Near as I can tell, my other set bonuses are negated. Am I missing something? 

Did you try entering the mission?

[Ukase]

1 minute ago, Glacier Peak said:

Did you try entering the mission?

Nope. I could see my defense drop from 42% to 11.15%, figured the limitation had taken effect already. 

[Bionic_Flea]

Those specific ones, I believe, are not flagged as "set bonuses" unlike the LoTG +recharge, which is flagged as a set bonus.

 

 

 

 

[Glacier Peak]

I know when I hover over the blue question mark in the Ouroboros story arc window after selecting the specific arc, it describes what 'Master of' and 'Old School' entails. Might take a look there for the discrepancy.

[Ukase]

11 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

I know when I hover over the blue question mark in the Ouroboros story arc window after selecting the specific arc, it describes what 'Master of' and 'Old School' entails. Might take a look there for the discrepancy.

I looked there. It stated "No enhancement set bonuses"... so it could be that Flea is correct and it's WAI. And I suppose that's the case. Just seemed odd to me. 

[Placta]

35 minutes ago, Ukase said:

I was unclear how my character would fare without IO set bonuses, so I thought I would start the TF and take a look at my combat stats. But, I'm confused by what I see. 
Numina Regen/Recovery is active. 
Celerity: Stealth is active. 
Kismet 6% ToHit is active. 

I thought set bonuses were negated when you selected both "Old School Challenge" and "Master of Lord Recluse's Strike Force".

 

Those aren't set bonuses, they're procs.

[Pzn]

31 minutes ago, Ukase said:

I looked there. It stated "No enhancement set bonuses"... so it could be that Flea is correct and it's WAI. And I suppose that's the case. Just seemed odd to me. 

It's weird but it's the same reason you can slot preventative medicine absorb proc anywhere and still receive the affect.  Some unique enhancements show up as set bonuses and always work whether the power is active or not.  You can look at your personal info (Menu>J).  If it shows up under set bonuses there it'll get zapped by the new setting.

 

8 minutes ago, Placta said:

 

Those aren't set bonuses, they're procs.

They aren't technically procs (Programmed Random Occurences) since there is no randomization.  There's just a check every 2 minutes to see if you've activated the power it's slotted in.

[Ukase]

3 hours ago, Placta said:

 

Those aren't set bonuses, they're procs.

I completely understand the distinction. But, I have always considered the "Procs" to be a set bonus, it's just that only 1 is required for that bonus. Just Semantics. 

I finished Worthy Opponent just a bit ago. The leader was crazy enough to try for Master of at the same time, and lol, he died in the first minute of the first mission. I suffered two defeats in front of Kronos, when my end got drained, I got stunned...and for some reason, couldn't use a break free. I think I was dead already, but my monitor didn't show it..yet. Used a large wakie, and got clobbered in an instant. But then, I got up and remained up right for the rest of it. I'd gotten so used to that defensive amplifier! 

[Ironblade]

Yeah, not set bonuses.  I got Worthy Opponent the day it went live and commented on these 'effects' still being active.

(And when I say commented, I mean on voice chat so I guess that's how you missed it since you weren't there. 😛 )