Moon Knight D+

[Hyperstrike]

 

[Bill Z Bubba]

I was bored unless Layla was on the screen. I'll, of course, continue watching anything Marvel throws out, but this one is pretty low on the list. Like down there with Thor 2 and Iron Fist.

[DougGraves]

1 hour ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

 Iron Fist.

 

Iron Fist himself was incredibly boring.

 

But the Meechams were some of the most interesting villains in any Marvel show or movie

[Bill Z Bubba]

Just now, DougGraves said:

Iron Fist himself was incredibly boring.

 

But the Meechams were some of the most interesting villains in any Marvel show or movie

 

And Ms. Wing was glorious. Yea, just bad casting for IF and script was too drawn out.

[ThaOGDreamWeaver]

Unwrapping this mummy for a small note:

 

Moon Knight S2 has allegedly been canned. Which, given it was an expensive little oddity, isn’t surprising. (Agatha’s done rather better on numbers, and only cost $40m total for 9 eps - that’s peanuts compared to the likes of The Acolyte. And most of that went on Kathryn’s wardrobe, I think…)

 

However, K.E.V.I.N. has been taking pitches for a theatrical movie. Oddly enough, I think this concept might work better within the tighter confines of a 100-minute straight story.

[BrandX]

15 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Unwrapping this mummy for a small note:

 

Moon Knight S2 has allegedly been canned. Which, given it was an expensive little oddity, isn’t surprising. (Agatha’s done rather better on numbers, and only cost $40m total for 9 eps - that’s peanuts compared to the likes of The Acolyte. And most of that went on Kathryn’s wardrobe, I think…)

 

However, K.E.V.I.N. has been taking pitches for a theatrical movie. Oddly enough, I think this concept might work better within the tighter confines of a 100-minute straight story.

 

Movie may allow us to see the awesome Moon Knight a bit more, but I hate to lose out on a second season.

[Techwright]

16 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Moon Knight S2 has allegedly been canned. Which, given it was an expensive little oddity, isn’t surprising.

 

Disney's necessary, deep budget cuts might be the best thing for Marvel.  Ever since Endgame, Marvel went crazy with stories for everything, paralleling the introduction of the multi-verse.  While some results hit well, a lot did not.  Marvel forgot the main hunt was the main hunt.  Budget necessity is pruning away all the rabbit trails, hopefully to settle into a leaner, meaner package that strikes like the top hits from Phases 1 thru 3. 

[Hyperstrike]

Budget cuts, sans the impetus to inject the failed politics won't save anything.

[ThaOGDreamWeaver]

5 hours ago, Techwright said:

Budget necessity is pruning away all the rabbit trails, hopefully to settle into a leaner, meaner package that strikes like the top hits from Phases 1 thru 3. 

 

I wouldn't know about cutting all the weird stuff. Agatha All Along ended with 4.8m viewers - which would be pretty respectable for a linear TV show, but pretty darn strong for D+ - and that was 48% up from the premiere. That's also on par with The Acolyte premiere, which was a lot more heavily promoted, but lost audience share as it went along.
https://deadline.com/2024/11/agatha-all-along-finale-ratings-disney-1236165137/

 

Thing is though...

 

The Acolyte wound up costing an eye-watering $230m, largely because of all the digital FX, and none of those characters really found an audience. Even me: I can't name one of them, neither do I care if they have a future in canon.

Agatha topped out at $40m all told, and still looked the business.

It might not necessarily have appealed to every audience, but it found one.

(Judging by my social feeds, a dangerously obsessive one. Even I'm getting sick of the song now, blasted Lopezes.)

And there is demand for every single one of those characters. For crossovers. New stories. Merch.

I'm trying to convince myself I don't need yet another tarot deck, but the official one comes out next year and pre-orders sold out already.
 

People are not going to watch a thing just because it's Star Wars, or Marvel, and definitely not DC. (Black Adam, anyone?)

Ignoring the need for strong story/character hooks, and instead relying on spectacle and big name, expensive leads is not gonna make you a good movie or good money.

Smaller, story/character-driven productions means you can tailor different things to different audiences you're fairly sure will go for it, and then see who they bring to the party.

Edited November 4 by ThaOGDreamWeaver

[BrandX]

On 11/4/2024 at 10:35 AM, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

 

I wouldn't know about cutting all the weird stuff. Agatha All Along ended with 4.8m viewers - which would be pretty respectable for a linear TV show, but pretty darn strong for D+ - and that was 48% up from the premiere. That's also on par with The Acolyte premiere, which was a lot more heavily promoted, but lost audience share as it went along.
https://deadline.com/2024/11/agatha-all-along-finale-ratings-disney-1236165137/

 

Thing is though...

 

The Acolyte wound up costing an eye-watering $230m, largely because of all the digital FX, and none of those characters really found an audience. Even me: I can't name one of them, neither do I care if they have a future in canon.

Agatha topped out at $40m all told, and still looked the business.

It might not necessarily have appealed to every audience, but it found one.

(Judging by my social feeds, a dangerously obsessive one. Even I'm getting sick of the song now, blasted Lopezes.)

And there is demand for every single one of those characters. For crossovers. New stories. Merch.

I'm trying to convince myself I don't need yet another tarot deck, but the official one comes out next year and pre-orders sold out already.
 

People are not going to watch a thing just because it's Star Wars, or Marvel, and definitely not DC. (Black Adam, anyone?)

Ignoring the need for strong story/character hooks, and instead relying on spectacle and big name, expensive leads is not gonna make you a good movie or good money.

Smaller, story/character-driven productions means you can tailor different things to different audiences you're fairly sure will go for it, and then see who they bring to the party.

 

Though bad press can hurt a fun movie.

 

The Marvels was a fun movie.  I'd say bad press on the part of it's lead didn't help it.