Staff/WP... just can't seem to get it to work.

[Six-Six]

I'm a closet roleplayer, so concept and theme matter a lot to me. I finally decided to roll a staff/willpower with a meh concept at best. I like the look and I like the animation (yes even the breakdancing T4) enough to not mind the wooden sound effects.

I just hit 35 arduously, taking months on and off. This is the level that I gradually upgrade from SOs to IO sets since I have enough slots for some nice set bonuses. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I can't figure out slotting. either my def/res is too low or my attacks are lacking or I'm guzzling too much end OR both of them three!

If any of you could post a decent levelling build to help guide me, it would be much appreciated. 

P.S. This is the first time I've taken Staff, and the only other time I've taken WP is on a Sent.

[Bill Z Bubba]

I only have one staffer as well and she's a staff/bio scrapper, so no end issues, tons of absorption and I stay in both +damage forms all the time. But I also have a couple WP users. Guess what I'm tryin to say is, I ain't got nuthin for ya.

 

But I'll try. What movement power you goin with?

 

Edit: And I just learned I've been using staff wrong. Sort of. Form of the body for the extra resist makes sense anyway for the staff/bio so I lucked out.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Bill Z Bubba

[Six-Six]

That's another thing. I'm not sure of what tertiary pools to take.

My usual power pools are:
Combat Teleport for melee toons (not a must)
Fighting, but I'm worried that my end can't handle tough and weave toggles
Force of Will for travel and a nifty knockdown (+1 tax power) and Unrelenting
Leaping just for CJ... but I can skip Force of Will altogether and just go with super jump as WP has enough heals/regen.

And I'm planning to take Soul Patron Power pool.
On the initial build, I took all primary powers; secondary to T7. 
 

[Bill Z Bubba]

This is where I'd be at 35 I think.

 

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Lvl 35 Build: Level 49 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Precise Strike -- CrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), CrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), CrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), CrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(7)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(7), ImpArm-ResPsi(9), Prv-Heal(9), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(11)
Level 2: Guarded Spin -- ScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), ScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(25)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), UnbGrd-Max HP%(15), GldArm-3defTpProc(15), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)
Level 6: Fast Healing -- NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19)
Level 8: Eye of the Storm -- Obl-Acc/Rchg(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(21), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- EndRdx(A)
Level 12: Staff Mastery
Level 14: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Mrc-Heal/EndRdx(A), Mrc-Heal(34), Mrc-Rcvry+(34)
Level 18: Serpent's Reach -- Dvs-Acc/Dmg(A), Dvs-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Dvs-Dmg/Rchg(25), Dvs-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(33)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 26: Innocuous Strikes -- Obl-Acc/Rchg(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(27), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(33)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(33)
Level 32: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx(A)
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), RgnTss-Regen+(34)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 12: Form of the Body
Level 12: Form of the Mind
Level 12: Form of the Soul
Level 14: Afterburner
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Should be plenty of end, I think.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Bill Z Bubba

[Six-Six]

Thank you Mr. Bubba. I'll give my feeble brain some time absorb it for a few minutes.

[Bill Z Bubba]

1 minute ago, Six-Six said:

Thank you Mr. Bubba. I'll give my feeble brain some time absorb it for a few minutes.

 

Just remember it was a feeble brain that created it.

[Luminara]

My main is a Staff/Willpower brute.  This is her build.

 

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Legionette: Level 50 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Staff Fighting
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Precise Strike -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx:30(A), ImpSki-ResDam/Rchg:30(3), ImpSki-EndRdx/Rchg:30(5), ImpSki-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:30(5), ImpSki-Status:30(7), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(7)
Level 2: Guarded Spin -- SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury:50(13)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux:50(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg:50(19), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg:50(19), Pnc-Heal:50(21), Pnc-Heal/+End:10(21)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), GifoftheA-Run+:40(9), WntGif-ResSlow:50(50)
Level 8: Staff Mastery 
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), GifoftheA-Run+:40(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(23)
Level 12: Eye of the Storm -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(23), Arm-Acc/Rchg:50(25), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx:50(25), Arm-Dam%:50(27)
Level 14: Mind Over Body -- ImpArm-ResPsi:40(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(27), UnbGrd-ResDam:50(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux:50(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Pnc-Heal/Rchg:50(31), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg:50(31), Pnc-Heal:50(33), ToHitDeb-I:50(33)
Level 18: Serpent's Reach -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Apc-Acc/Rchg:50(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Apc-Dam%:50(34)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- SynSck-EndMod:50(A), SynSck-EndMod/Rech:50(36), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed:50(36), SynSck-Dam/Rech:50(36), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc:50(37), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End:50(37)
Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%:20(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(42), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(42)
Level 26: Innocuous Strikes -- Obl-Dmg:50(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg:50(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(39), Obl-%Dam:30(39)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:10(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx:50(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), ShlWal-Def:50(40)
Level 30: Weave -- Rct-ResDam%:20(A), Rct-Def:50(45), Rct-Def/EndRdx:50(46), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), Rct-Def/Rchg:50(46), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48)
Level 32: Sky Splitter -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Hct-Acc/Rchg:50(43), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Hct-Dam%:50(45)
Level 35: Superior Conditioning -- SynSck-EndMod/Rech:50(A), SynSck-EndMod:50(45)
Level 38: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- NmnCnv-Heal:50(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 44: Energy Torrent -- SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 47: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 49: Infiltration -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury 
Level 1: Sprint -- Qck-RunSpd:50(A), Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd:50(50)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTss-Regen+:10(A), Mrc-Rcvry+:20(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:31(15), NmnCnv-Heal:50(17), RgnTss-Heal/Rchg:30(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:21(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(17)
Level 1: Combo Level 1 
Level 1: Combo Level 2 
Level 1: Combo Level 3 
Level 8: Form of the Body 
Level 8: Form of the Mind 
Level 8: Form of the Soul 
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Cimeroran Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Void Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany 
Level 0: Regeneration Increase 
Level 50: Melee Radial Embodiment 
Level 50: Agility Radial Paragon 
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I exemplar with this build, so it's functional all the way down to level 7 (the lowest available through Ouroboros).  Looking at my oldest saved version, it's not much different.  The power selection is level for level identical, and I leveled her up without planning a respec build.  The slotting on the older build was a bit more haywire, because it was from before the travel power changes or addition of Athletic Run (63mph Jump Speed, without buffs), so my current build, the one I've included, is really as trim and lean as it can be, the result of over a year of tweaking and minor adjustments.  It should adapt to scrapper well.

 

The Energy Mastery APP was selected specifically for this character, as an extension of Willpower (Superior Conditioning and Physical Perfection really fit that), because Legionette doesn't have any "special" abilities, just a stick and her determination to prove herself to the Sisters.  Energy Torrent is, therefore, just a set bonus mule.  You probably won't want or need Body Mastery, so you might consider Weapon Mastery (if i could've had that, i would've taken it).

 

Yes, I have Infiltration as the final power selection, but I don't use it.  I use Athletic Run, Sprint and set bonuses, and she's around 73mph Jump speed and 75mph Run speed.  Legionette doesn't sneak.  She might be timid at times, but she's not going to hide from her enemies, or try to avoid a fight.  You can move Infiltration to a lower level and use it, or substitute another travel power, and de-emphasize the extra movement speed (put that extra slot in Sprint to another use, for example).

 

Attack chain depends on the situation.  No boss = Guarded/Innocuous/Guarded/Eye.  One boss = Serpent's/Sky//Serpent's/Eye.  Two or more bosses = Guarded/Serpent's/Sky/Eye.  This build has just enough global +Recharge to make all of those work without the game giving you "Power Recharging!" honks.

 

Form of the Body is the only one I use.

 

Ask whatever questions you like, I'll answer.

[Six-Six]

Right. I think I got a good grip on it now. @Luminara's build was a little too expensive for now, so I just replaced some sets with what I had in my stash. I pretty much did a mix and match of both builds. I'll take it for a test run later. 

Just went on a test drive. She handles like a dream now. HP barely dips, I still get a little winded at times, but manageable. I'm thinking twice about Soul Patron and may go with Body Mastery. Def, Res and Damage will just keep going up as I earn more slots (and inf for IOs). Now she's a fun toon.

Thanks again, @Bill Z Bubba and Luminara. 😃 

Edited February 27, 2022 by Six-Six

[Uun]

One thing to be aware of is that WP has no resistance to endurance drain or recovery debuffs. You'll want to shift to Form of the Soul when fighting things like Carnies or Arachnos (Mu). The endurance discount is pretty sizeable.

[Six-Six]

I'm also slipping in some CC procs where I can, so it's not just damage, like chance for recharge slow, disorient, etc. 😃  

[RCU7115]

Here is one of my builds on my Staff/WP Scrap. Maybe it will help , maybe it won't. I think my current build has Mind over Body & Tough 3 slotted with the Aegis set. Weave, Maneuvers and Resurgence are one slotted allowing me to 6 slot Heightened Senses with 5 LoTG and a shield wall resist so some numbers will be a little off.

 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1605&c=746&a=1492&f=HEX&dc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