Which pairs better with /Ninja?

[SeraphimKensai]

On 4/23/2022 at 12:26 PM, Resolve said:

I made a Fire/Ninja recently because flaming swords are nice, but I'm not at all sure /Ninja is very useful. I'm especially wondering what's up with Shinobi since it shows as granting a damage bonus in the powers window but not in the abbreviated display.

Still looks good and I can live with being slightly less OP.

If you play with the blaster and attack mobs you'll notice you can proc critical damage on some attacks coming out of the stealth. That comes from Shinobi. It's not a direct +dam like aim, but it still works out to a pretty decent power.

[Ironscarlet]

Patch 27 Ninja Shinobi was BUFFED

 

•  Shinobi
  • No longer grants a damage buff outside of stealth
  • Now grants the caster a 20% chance to inflict lethal criticals with every attack
    • The amount of damage will be based on the recharge time of the power
    • Usually this will be 80% of the standard damage formula
    • This bonus damage ignores enhancements and damage buffs

 

It's a strong proc

 

For the OP a proc heavy set like Ice would benefit more from Shinobi. Can it make up for Fire extra damage maybeeeeeeeee..... 

• The amount of damage will be based on the recharge time of the power  ( if it counts in animation time ice may be better if not then really most are pretty similar.) ( Also is it original recharge time or after buffs, anyone know?)

 

Someone else pointed out  Elec/ninja is a great sith theme. I went with that theme but went Sonic/Ninja. The - res helps shinobi and the blapper build really worked out.  Also with ninja an certain set you can achieve 44% def to range,melee,and aoe but you sacrifice to much damage imo and 33% is the sweet spot ( 1 purple ratio).

 

Old ninja build with 44% def may help you with a template 

 

Edited May 4, 2022 by Ironscarlet

[SeraphimKensai]

As I mentioned before I chose to roll an Elec/Ninja, and through together a quick build and have been play testing it. The toon is extremely resilient. The revamped elec blast works really well especially with a charge up, thunderous blast from shinobi stealth. Otherwise as it drains mobs and applies shock damage procs, and further reduces their ability to fight. I have blinding powder and smoke flash recharging in roughly 32 seconds, they are more utilitarian in aspect, but smoke flash is more useful given the -10.5% res debuff. Clarion for mez protection, and also because I didn't need Barrier or Aegis. The build can stealth missions as necessary as well with Shinobi and Sprint Celerity stealth proc. Now the meat and potatoes...the toon ends up with nonincarnate softcapped typed defenses to SLFCEN, P at 21.26%, T at 15.98%. Additionally M is 31.26%, R is 39.7% and A is 41.88%.

HP sits at 1635.7, Regen at 474.14% (32.31 HP/Sec). 654.28 HP Absorb. Max End 115.4% End Use 3.19, End Rec 5.19.

 

I don't normally post builds but...Submitted for approval of the Midnight Society I call this build Elec/Ninja....

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[b]Level 50 Mutation Blaster[/b]
[b]Primary Power Set: Electrical Blast[/b]
[b]Secondary Power Set: Ninja Training[/b]
[b]Power Pool: Flight[/b]
[b]Power Pool: Speed[/b]
[b]Power Pool: Fighting[/b]
[b]Power Pool: Leadership[/b]
[b]Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery[/b]

[b]Hero Profile:[/b]
[b]Level 1: Lightning Bolt[/b] -- SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBrr-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprDfnBrr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprDfnBrr-Rchg/+Status Protect(7)
[b]Level 1: Immobilizing Dart[/b] -- GldJvl-Dam%(A)
[b]Level 2: Ball Lightning[/b] -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(11)
[b]Level 4: Sting of the Wasp[/b] -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(19), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(19)
[b]Level 6: Short Circuit[/b] -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(21), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(23), ScrDrv-Dam%(23), EndMod-I(25)
[b]Level 8: Fly[/b] -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(15)
[b]Level 10: Shinobi[/b] -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(25), Ksm-ToHit+(27)
[b]Level 12: Zapp[/b] -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(31), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(31)
[b]Level 14: Hover[/b] -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
[b]Level 16: The Lotus Drops[/b] -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(34)
[b]Level 18: Tesla Cage[/b] -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(34), Thn-Acc/Dmg(34), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
[b]Level 20: Kuji-In Toh[/b] -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(37), Mrc-Rcvry+(37), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(37)
[b]Level 22: Hasten[/b] -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
[b]Level 24: Kick[/b] -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
[b]Level 26: Charge Up[/b] -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(39), GssSynFr--ToHit(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(49)
[b]Level 28: Tough[/b] -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(39), UnbGrd-Max HP%(40)
[b]Level 30: Weave[/b] -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(40), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def(42)
[b]Level 32: Thunderous Blast[/b] -- SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsWrt-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBlsWrt-Rchg/Dmg%(45)
[b]Level 35: Smoke Flash[/b] -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg(A)
[b]Level 38: Golden Dragonfly[/b] -- Erd-Dmg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), ClvBlo-Acc/Dmg(46), ClvBlo-Dmg/Rchg(46), ClvBlo-Acc/Rchg(46)
[b]Level 41: Scorpion Shield[/b] -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(47), LucoftheG-Def(47)
[b]Level 44: Blinding Powder[/b] -- RechRdx-I(A)
[b]Level 47: Maneuvers[/b] -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(49)
[b]Level 49: Voltaic Sentinel[/b] -- DS:DSyncDamEnd(A)
[b]Level 1: Defiance[/b] 
[b]Level 1: Brawl[/b] -- Empty(A)
[b]Level 1: Sprint[/b] -- Clr-Stlth(A)
[b]Level 2: Rest[/b] -- Empty(A)
[b]Level 2: Swift[/b] -- Run-I(A)
[b]Level 2: Hurdle[/b] -- Jump-I(A)
[b]Level 2: Health[/b] -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Prv-Absorb%(13)
[b]Level 2: Stamina[/b] -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13)
[b]Level 1: Shocked[/b] 
[b]Level 49: Quick Form[/b] 
[b]Level 4: Ninja Run[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Knives of Vengeance Radial Superior Ally[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Portal Jockey[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Task Force Commander[/b] 
[b]Level 50: The Atlas Medallion[/b] 
[b]Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve[/b] 
[b]Level 8: Afterburner[/b] 
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[UltraAlt]

On 3/15/2022 at 10:35 PM, Six-Six said:

Archery is another thematically sound choice, though I feel that the bow to blade to bow switching is a bit janky.

 

I have one of these in a ninja themed supergroup for thematic reasons because... yeah ... character conception.

I can't say that it played it all that much, but I have to say I've let a lot of 100+ characters sit too long with really playing them. 

 

I do remember liking sneaking around and shooting arrow at unsuspecting targets.

[Rejolt]

On 4/23/2022 at 12:26 PM, Resolve said:

I made a Fire/Ninja recently because flaming swords are nice, but I'm not at all sure /Ninja is very useful. I'm especially wondering what's up with Shinobi since it shows as granting a damage bonus in the powers window but not in the abbreviated display.

Still looks good and I can live with being slightly less OP.

older version gave a minor damage bonus, but it was better out of a hidden state.  I believe you now have a chance for Lethal critical on all attacks. 

Edited May 4, 2022 by Rejolt

[Ice Ember]

On 4/18/2022 at 1:55 PM, TygerDarkstorm said:

Same, I haven't played her yet, but I went Elec/Nin to live out my Sith fantasy lol

 I have made a Gravity/Electric Dominator which fits the theme well.

I also made a Time/Electric Defender for the theme.

Gravity/Time controller for Jedi

 

 

[Saikochoro]

Dual pistols/ninja gets my vote. The only blaster I have that I enjoy more than my DP/ninja is my DP/ma blaster. 
 

It is very stylistic and weapon based. I enjoy weapon based specs a lot more than elemental/super power based specs. It checks a lot of my fantasy/scifi boxes. 
 

Very fun combo that does good damage and looks cool.