Storm/Water or Storm/Ice

[Ripstick]

Hello all! Apologies in advanced for some base-line questions. I'm pretty new to the game (again) and trying to catch up with the current balance of everything. 

 

I read through this topic here:

 

There's lots of discussion on Ice vs Water. Seems like water has a great potential for procs.

 

Does this mean a chance for extra damage on attacks? I've also read that procs per minute has been nerfed so is this still a viable strategy for building a character?

 

I've leveled a Storm/Ice defender to about 26 and overall I'm not that satisfied with it. Seems like just to kill one pack I've got to use my whole blue bar and that's even before getting to Tornado and Lightning Storm (which may allow me to kill faster?).

 

I'm worried with Water (I have a Water/Time blaster) that if I'm trying to use Tornado and LS on cooldown I won't be able to consume the Tidal Power effectively. 

 

Ice seems to have a decent single target nuke in Freeze Ray but like I said I feel like I have to toss my entire End bar at a pack to kill it.

 

So what would you roll and why? The idea of a proc heavy build seems fun if I'm understanding it correctly. My goal would be able to be effective at soloing as well as have a noticeable difference in team performance when teaming. 

[Voltak]

4 hours ago, Ripstick said:

Hello all! Apologies in advanced for some base-line questions. I'm pretty new to the game (again) and trying to catch up with the current balance of everything. 

 

I read through this topic here:

 

There's lots of discussion on Ice vs Water. Seems like water has a great potential for procs.

 

Does this mean a chance for extra damage on attacks? I've also read that procs per minute has been nerfed so is this still a viable strategy for building a character?

 

I've leveled a Storm/Ice defender to about 26 and overall I'm not that satisfied with it. Seems like just to kill one pack I've got to use my whole blue bar and that's even before getting to Tornado and Lightning Storm (which may allow me to kill faster?).

 

I'm worried with Water (I have a Water/Time blaster) that if I'm trying to use Tornado and LS on cooldown I won't be able to consume the Tidal Power effectively. 

 

Ice seems to have a decent single target nuke in Freeze Ray but like I said I feel like I have to toss my entire End bar at a pack to kill it.

 

So what would you roll and why? The idea of a proc heavy build seems fun if I'm understanding it correctly. My goal would be able to be effective at soloing as well as have a noticeable difference in team performance when teaming. 

 

Both are good. 

Water and Ice , both go very well with storm. 

Either one will seriously be just as fun and strong.  

[TaxibotJoe]

Sorry for the late reply.

 

/water has more opportunities for force feedback +recharge and storm/ wants all the recharge. You may consider a +end in dehydrate plus any other +end you can find. Storm is fantastic but eats blue like crazy. 

[Troyusrex]

I can’t speak to storm/water but my second favorite character is a storm/ice. Very tough, deals a lot of damage and mayhem. A real blast to play. 

[Dark Dingo]

22 hours ago, Troyusrex said:

I can’t speak to storm/water but my second favorite character is a storm/ice. Very tough, deals a lot of damage and mayhem. A real blast to play. 

Would you mind sharing your build?

[Troyusrex]

46 minutes ago, darkdingo said:

Would you mind sharing your build?

I should know this, but I don’t… is there an easy way to export a build without having to enter every last IO into mids?

[Dark Dingo]

1 hour ago, Troyusrex said:

I should know this, but I don’t… is there an easy way to export a build without having to enter every last IO into mids?

If you don't have the build saved, I don't think so. One easy option would be taking a screenshot of your characters enhancement window like the good ole days lol.

[SeraphimKensai]

Personally I'm more of a fan of rain based DoT's on corruptors ala ice storm, blizzard, whirlpool. But storm is so good with high recharge either way you'll probably be just fine playing on defender as well.

[smnolimits41]

does tornado take damage or whats the best way to slot it ??

 

[Doomguide2005]

1 hour ago, smnolimits41 said:

does tornado take damage or whats the best way to slot it ??

 

     Yes it takes damage enhancements.  I'd probably slot 4 Expedient Reinforcements and a kb to kd proc +/- an Achilles proc --> so 6 slots.  There was a time when I liked 3 defdebuff/recharge and 3 Soulbound but that was pre kb to kd specials.  Goal was to get out as many as 3 Tornadoes at a time.  It autohits and also causes Afraid (mag 10) and will cause some AVs to turn into runners but generally isn't a huge problem in this respect.

[Ringo]

Tornado takes damage.  My Plant/Storm has the Achilles Heel proc, the Sudden Acceleration KB>KD IO, and then 4 slotted with Expedient Reinforcement because Tornado takes the Recharge Intensive Pet sets and Storm wants more recharge

[Doomguide2005]

9 minutes ago, Krimson said:

Corruptors are my favorite AT and I chose to go Defender with Storm. Put KB>KD in Gale and lead with it. There's a reason I named her Cloud Control. 🙂

Love the name 😎

[Dark Dingo]

11 hours ago, Krimson said:

This is mine.

Cloud Control 2 - Defender (Storm Summoning).mxd 4.05 kB · 4 downloads

Thanks for posting. Any idea why Mids is showing it as unfinished?

[Dark Dingo]

2 hours ago, Krimson said:

I'm dumb. I thought Cloud Control 2 was the most recent, but turns out I edited the original and never completed the second. 

Cloud Control - Defender (Storm Summoning).mxd 5.41 kB · 2 downloads

Thank you!