How to do more damage with Ill/Cold? Need help with build

Muwu · May 5, 2023

Hi guys, trying to improve on my Ill/Cold. I recently changed from /Ice Mastery to Mace and was wondering how I can improve on it. With forcefeedback, I can get perma hasten and perma PA but I'm a little concerned about my defences and survivability. I would really appreciate any advice on how to make this build better for endgame content.

Thank you!

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Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blind

(A) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(3) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
(5) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(5) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 1: Infrigidate

(A) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
(7) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
(7) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
(9) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
(9) Ice Mistral's Torment - Chance for Cold Damage

Level 2: Ice Shield

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 4: Hover

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(13) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 6: Spectral Wounds

(A) Apocalypse - Damage
(15) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
(17) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(17) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy
(19) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(19) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 8: Boxing

(A) Accuracy IO

Level 10: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(21) Red Fortune - Defense
(21) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance

Level 12: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Super Speed

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 16: Tough

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(23) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(50) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection

Level 18: Phantom Army

(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(23) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(25) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(25) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(27) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
(27) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge

Level 20: Arctic Fog

(A) Reactive Defenses - Defense
(29) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
(29) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
(31) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime
(31) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
(31) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 22: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 24: Benumb

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26: Spectral Terror

(A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration
(33) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge
(34) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance
(34) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge
(34) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge
(36) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage

Level 28: Tactics

(A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(36) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(36) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
(37) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 30: Burnout

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 32: Sleet

(A) Ragnarok - Damage
(39) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(39) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(40) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
(40) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(40) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 35: Poisonous Ray

(A) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(42) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
(42) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
(42) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
(43) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 38: Heat Loss

(A) Preemptive Optimization - Accuracy/Recharge
(43) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance
(43) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Recharge
(45) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Endurance
(45) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
(45) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance/Recharge

Level 41: Disruptor Blast

(A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
(46) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff
(46) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage
(46) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
(48) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
(48) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown

Level 44: Scorpion Shield

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(48) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(50) Red Fortune - Defense

Level 47: Vengeance

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49: Glacial Shield

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Containment

Level 1: Brawl

Illusion_Cold_Mace Build.mxd

Meknomancer · May 5, 2023

I went psi epic. Still using old mids:

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

ILL COLD PSI: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Spectral Wounds
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
(3) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(7) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 1: Ice Shield
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 2: Blind
(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
(7) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
(9) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(9) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(11) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(11) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage

Level 4: Deceive
(A) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion
(13) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance
(13) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge
(15) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge/Accuracy
(15) Coercive Persuasion - Recharge/Accuracy
(17) Coercive Persuasion - Confused

Level 6: Hover
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(40) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
(42) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 8: Fly
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(37) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 10: Glacial Shield
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 12: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 16: Tactics
(A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 18: Phantom Army
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(19) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(19) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(27) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
(27) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge

Level 20: Arctic Fog
(A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
(21) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime
(21) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
(23) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
(23) Reactive Defenses - Defense
(25) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 22: Kick
(A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 24: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 26: Spectral Terror
(A) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage
(29) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance
(31) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge
(31) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge
(33) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration

Level 28: Benumb
D-Sync Origin:D-Sync Provocation

Level 30: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 32: Phantasm
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets

Level 35: Sleet
(A) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
(36) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(47) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(47) Ragnarok - Damage
(48) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(48) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 38: Heat Loss
(A) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance/Recharge
(39) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Endurance
(39) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Recharge
(40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance
(40) Preemptive Optimization - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 41: Indomitable Will
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(46) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Mental Blast
(A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(45) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(45) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy
(46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(46) Apocalypse - Damage

Level 47: Evasive Maneuvers
(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 49: Mind Over Body
(A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
(49) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(49) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty

Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty

Level 1: Swift
(A) Empty

Level 1: Hurdle
(A) Empty

Level 1: Health
(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(17) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(36) Miracle - +Recovery
(36) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 1: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(37) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self

Level 8: Afterburner
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Muwu · May 5, 2023

2 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

I went psi epic. Still using old mids:

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

ILL COLD PSI: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
------------
Level 1:   Spectral Wounds
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
(3) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(7) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 1:   Ice Shield
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 2:   Blind
(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
(7) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
(9) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(9) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(11) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
(11) Gladiator's Javelin - Accuracy/Damage

Level 4:   Deceive
(A) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion
(13) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance
(13) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge
(15) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge/Accuracy
(15) Coercive Persuasion - Recharge/Accuracy
(17) Coercive Persuasion - Confused

Level 6:   Hover
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(40) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
(42) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 8:   Fly
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(37) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 10:   Glacial Shield
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 12:   Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 14:   Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 16:   Tactics
(A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 18:   Phantom Army
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(19) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(19) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(27) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
(27) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge

Level 20:   Arctic Fog
(A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
(21) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime
(21) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
(23) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
(23) Reactive Defenses - Defense
(25) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 22:   Kick
(A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 24:   Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 26:   Spectral Terror
(A) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage
(29) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance
(31) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge
(31) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge
(33) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration

Level 28:   Benumb
D-Sync Origin:D-Sync Provocation

Level 30:   Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 32:   Phantasm
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets

Level 35:   Sleet
(A) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
(36) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(47) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(47) Ragnarok - Damage
(48) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(48) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff

Level 38:   Heat Loss
(A) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance/Recharge
(39) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Endurance
(39) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Recharge
(40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance
(40) Preemptive Optimization - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 41:   Indomitable Will
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(46) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44:   Mental Blast
(A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(45) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(45) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy
(46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
(46) Apocalypse - Damage

Level 47:   Evasive Maneuvers
(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 49:   Mind Over Body
(A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
(49) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(49) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 1:   Containment
Level 1:   Brawl
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Sprint
(A) Empty

Level 2:   Rest
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Swift
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Hurdle
(A) Empty

Level 1:   Health
(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(17) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(36) Miracle - +Recovery
(36) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb

Level 1:   Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(37) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self

Level 8:   Afterburner
Level 50:   Agility Core Paragon
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Thanks so much for this. How do you feel about your damage? both single target and AoE at end game? Is it still decent without proc spamming?

Hedgefund2 · May 5, 2023

Not a real review, I simply glanced at it but I'd warn you to turn OFF the FF proc in Disruptor Blast which is way skewing your global recharge.

Also the BU proc in Tactics is overstating your final to-hit in powers, such as Benumb.

Frosticus · May 5, 2023

4 hours ago, Muwu said:

Hi guys, trying to improve on my Ill/Cold. I recently changed from /Ice Mastery to Mace and was wondering how I can improve on it. With forcefeedback, I can get perma hasten and perma PA but I'm a little concerned about my defences and survivability. I would really appreciate any advice on how to make this build better for endgame content.

Have you given this /mace build a spin?

I ask because it is unlikely you will have FFB up all the time with it only in a single mace power. So you are likely far away from perma PA/hasten in actual gameplay.

It's fine to use FFB to reliably shave off a few seconds from long recharge powers, but I wouldn't personally bank on it for much more than that outside of some very specific builds designed to leverage it like /storm, or stone melee.

Gaussian in tactics is fine I guess. It doesn't go off very often and usually when out of combat.

Achilies in sleet isn't the best.

What are you finding your defenses and damage to be too low against? What are you trying to achieve that your ill/cold is currently struggling against?

For instance I've solo'd most TF's in the game with an extremely low defense ill/cold build. It's not that defense isn't nice it just isn't as important on this particular build as it is on others imo.

Muwu · May 5, 2023

1 hour ago, Frosticus said:

Have you given this /mace build a spin?

I ask because it is unlikely you will have FFB up all the time with it only in a single mace power. So you are likely far away from perma PA/hasten in actual gameplay.

It's fine to use FFB to reliably shave off a few seconds from long recharge powers, but I wouldn't personally bank on it for much more than that outside of some very specific builds designed to leverage it like /storm, or stone melee.

Gaussian in tactics is fine I guess. It doesn't go off very often and usually when out of combat.

Achilies in sleet isn't the best.

What are you finding your defenses and damage to be too low against? What are you trying to achieve that your ill/cold is currently struggling against?

For instance I've solo'd most TF's in the game with an extremely low defense ill/cold build. It's not that defense isn't nice it just isn't as important on this particular build as it is on others imo.

Dammit you're absolutely right. Its extremely hard to achieve decent uptime on PA. I'll have to rethink my whole thing. And thanks for the input on achilles on sleet and gaussian on tactics. Back to the drawing board!

Uun · May 6, 2023

Cold is a great set, but other than Arctic Fog, none of its powers protect you. And if you're 1-slotting the shields (and not taking Glacial until lvl 49), you're not helping your team much either. Why is it you're taking Cold?

Slot Spectral Terror with an Accurate Tohit Debuff set, not Will of the Controller. You want to enhance Spooky's -tohit, not his fear.

Meknomancer · May 6, 2023

18 hours ago, Muwu said:

Thanks so much for this. How do you feel about your damage? both single target and AoE at end game? Is it still decent without proc spamming?

Never had any issues its soloed pretty much everything i wanted it too, great on teams (who doesnt want a /cold) I dont really use much beyond PA/sleet/heat loss, the rest are just mules for recharge and ranged defence.

Frosticus · May 6, 2023

17 hours ago, Muwu said:

Dammit you're absolutely right. Its extremely hard to achieve decent uptime on PA. I'll have to rethink my whole thing. And thanks for the input on achilles on sleet and gaussian on tactics. Back to the drawing board!

IME an ill/cold with no procs, but lots of recharge still tears through single targets (especially tough ones) as quick as pretty much anything in the game. A proc focused build is almost unmatched.

I don't think you'll ever turn it into an aoe powerhouse, but I don't see why that matters much. In a team you can off-tank and provide cold buff/debuff, which makes you pretty desirable even with less than stellar aoe damage.

I run multiple builds for my ill/cold. The solo focused shares little in terms of powers, slotting goals, or playstyle to the teaming one.

Muwu · May 6, 2023

12 hours ago, Uun said:

Cold is a great set, but other than Arctic Fog, none of its powers protect you. And if you're 1-slotting the shields (and not taking Glacial until lvl 49), you're not helping your team much either. Why is it you're taking Cold?

Slot Spectral Terror with an Accurate Tohit Debuff set, not Will of the Controller. You want to enhance Spooky's -tohit, not his fear.

I was more in it for the set bonus as I wanted the recharge and range defense. I am fully banking on PA tanking my hits for me. And yeah I took glacial super late, but probably shouldnt have, although I am aiming to play this guy in 50+ content anyways.

Edited May 7, 2023 by Muwu

Muwu · May 7, 2023

7 hours ago, Frosticus said:

IME an ill/cold with no procs, but lots of recharge still tears through single targets (especially tough ones) as quick as pretty much anything in the game. A proc focused build is almost unmatched.

I don't think you'll ever turn it into an aoe powerhouse, but I don't see why that matters much. In a team you can off-tank and provide cold buff/debuff, which makes you pretty desirable even with less than stellar aoe damage.

I run multiple builds for my ill/cold. The solo focused shares little in terms of powers, slotting goals, or playstyle to the teaming one.

I have fixed my build and went for non-proc based. I tested on pylons and managed to get sub 2 minutes without much effort (only T2 agility alpha and T2 degen interface) so I think its working out great! Thanks for all your help.

Which Interface Incarnate do you reckon works best? Currently running degen

1 minute and 20 seconds pylon now 😄 with T3 alpha and interface only

Edited May 7, 2023 by Muwu

Frosticus · May 7, 2023

4 hours ago, Muwu said:

I have fixed my build and went for non-proc based. I tested on pylons and managed to get sub 2 minutes without much effort (only T2 agility alpha and T2 degen interface) so I think its working out great! Thanks for all your help.

Which Interface Incarnate do you reckon works best? Currently running degen

1 minute and 20 seconds pylon now 😄 with T3 alpha and interface only

For interface I went Radial Degen.

Radial reactive would be really good too.

mrdeeds7 · June 26, 2023

This might be a dumb question but why would you pass on Phantasm?

Psyonico · June 26, 2023

1 hour ago, mrdeeds7 said:

This might be a dumb question but why would you pass on Phantasm?

Not a dumb question at all... But my guess is a lack of slotting opportunity for it.

Doomguide2005 · June 26, 2023

4 hours ago, Psyonico said:

Not a dumb question at all... But my guess is a lack of slotting opportunity for it.

Combine a lack of damage immunities plus any true healing present to use on Phantasm then add in a dash of pet AI resulting in target focus issues as well as no taunt himself I can understand skipping especially if slotting gets tight. That's not to say he's terrible not by a long shot. The duplicate he creates is does have immunities and draws aggro/taunts therefore adds to damage output and helps keep stuff off you and cover any gaps left by PA.

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