LordSqueak Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 Windows 7 , 32 gigs of ram , Primocache ( uses ram as a C : cache to speed up loading, if mirrored, it loads around 5000mb/s (as this game tends to be ; ) ) , and I've turned off the swapfile because ... 32gigs of ram. 100/100Mbit interwebbs I have to wait around 20-30 seconds for the character list to load. whatever it is, it's not memory management. It just seems to sit there, doing nothing for a while. I would speculate that it's sending a request or something and it simply waits for that to timeout before proceeding. Which begs the question, what's different between w7 and w10 when it comes to handling timeouts?
WanderingAries Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/13/2019 at 9:51 AM, LordSqueak said: Windows 7 , 32 gigs of ram , Primocache ( uses ram as a C : cache to speed up loading, if mirrored, it loads around 5000mb/s (as this game tends to be ; ) ) , and I've turned off the swapfile because ... 32gigs of ram. 100/100Mbit interwebbs I have to wait around 20-30 seconds for the character list to load. whatever it is, it's not memory management. It just seems to sit there, doing nothing for a while. I would speculate that it's sending a request or something and it simply waits for that to timeout before proceeding. Which begs the question, what's different between w7 and w10 when it comes to handling timeouts? Just a side comment on the build. Even with the optimizations and RAM, the OS still likes having atleast some of a swap file for itself (some background things don't actually work properly without it I read). I'd have to lookup the number again, but it's no longer the old 1.5x RAM of course. OG Server: Pinnacle <||> Current Primary Server: Torchbearer || Also found on the others if desired <||> Generally Inactive Installing CoX: Windows || MacOS || MacOS for M1 <||> Migrating Data from an Older Installation Clubs: Mid's Hero Designer || PC Builders || HC Wiki || Jerk Hackers Old Forums <||> Titan Network <||> Heroica! (by @Shenanigunner)
LordSqueak Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 13 hours ago, WanderingAries said: Just a side comment on the build. Even with the optimizations and RAM, the OS still likes having atleast some of a swap file for itself (some background things don't actually work properly without it I read). I'd have to lookup the number again, but it's no longer the old 1.5x RAM of course. I haven't used a swapfile on this computer since I installed 32 gigs of RAM. It stays on for months between reboots, and it's the most stable computer I've ever seen. The only time this becomes a problem is when windows runs out of available memory, at which point it will BSOD*. But this only happens if I use photoshop and make extra large projects and forget to check ram usage. and once when a minecraft mod had a memory leak. * the reason it BSOD's instead of just shutting down programs, is because I'm also using 12gigs with primocache to cache the C drive in RAM. (super speedy load times for whatever 12gigs of the C that I use the most. This does tend to cause problems with windows because systems files tends to be mirrored in cache. So speaking from experience, not having a swapfile is not a problem. ( in fact, I suspect the swapfile is the cause of many problems.) The point being, memory management seems to be irrelevant here.
SonicTHI Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Same problem here: win7 64, both 64 and 32 bit client. I ve seen similar things happen in some other games that had slow loading screens and the reason was always frame rate bound game code. Might be something similar.
Erydanus Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 I took a few months off and now I'm back I'm still experiencing these kinds of delays. Also, if I back out of waiting I still see that "do you want to leave the queue" message Impish Kat posted a screenshot of back in July. I do think the time I'm waiting is usually lower than it was before, but we're still talking about a pretty good wait, like 20-30 seconds? It was worse last weekend when the server was under heavy load. My PC's older now but it's got an AMD quad core CPU running at 4.3 and 8 gigs of RAM and Win 7 Pro 64 bit so it's not like it's a junky machine. See me on Excelsior as Eridanus - Whisperkill - Kid Physics - Ranger Wilde - The Hometown Scrapper - Firewatch - and more!
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