Fire/Kin or Water/Kin

[CornFollow3]

The general consensus for farming is fire. I've been told this is true for Corrupters as well. But I cant help but ask why? Fire has Rain (which hits for 2 dmg) at 400% dmg using FS, Fireball, Inferno and that's it (I don't use cones). So that leaves you with 2 affective AoEs.

 

Water has whirpool, water burst, and Geyser. Whirlpool does *8* dmg on each hit absolutely crushing rain with the same mechanics other than AoE size being a smidge smaller. Burst and geyser are pretty much the same. 

 

So I ask why people prefer fire over water? Am I missing something when it just comes to dmg output and farming?

[Uun]

You're ignoring the frequency of the damage ticks. Rain of Fire does 1.1122 damage every 0.2 seconds for a total of 83.415 damage over its 15 second duration. Whirlpool does 2.9195 damage every 0.5 seconds for a total of 87.585 damage over its 15 second duration.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=pets.corruptor_rainoffire.rainoffire&at=minion_pets

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=pets.whirlpool_corruptor.whirlpool&at=minion_pets

[Andreah]

Rain of Fire is a good power; I couldn't imagine myself not taking it.

[Player2]

I like a little fire and water together... sky fire, that is.  🌩️  Storm/Kinetic corruptor.

[Oubliette_Red]

Take Fire and colour it like water, problem solved.

 

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

One of my favorite things about this game is going counter to the meta and finding ways to make power set combos do things people say they can't.

 

You go on with your bad self and be a farming Water/Kin!

 

PS.  Moved to Corrupter forums

[CornFollow3]

On 1/16/2024 at 4:58 AM, Uun said:

You're ignoring the frequency of the damage ticks. Rain of Fire does 1.1122 damage every 0.2 seconds for a total of 83.415 damage over its 15 second duration. Whirlpool does 2.9195 damage every 0.5 seconds for a total of 87.585 damage over its 15 second duration.

 

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=pets.corruptor_rainoffire.rainoffire&at=minion_pets

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=pets.whirlpool_corruptor.whirlpool&at=minion_pets

The math doesnt add up still in AE. it would have to hit .8 sec to overcome the damage of whirlpool.

Edited January 18 by CornFollow3

[Uun]

10 hours ago, CornFollow3 said:

The math doesnt add up still in AE. it would have to hit .8 sec to overcome the damage of whirlpool.

Those are the actual numbers in game before enhancements or buffs. If you're getting different results in AE, you're using different slotting or buffs. I have no idea what you mean by 0.8 sec.

Rain of Fire ticks 5x per second for 15 seconds for 1.1122 damage per tick: 1.1122 x 5 x 15 = 83.415

Whirlpool ticks 2x per second for 15 seconds for 2.9195 per tick: 2.9195 x 2 x 15 = 87.585

[CornFollow3]

13 hours ago, Uun said:

Those are the actual numbers in game before enhancements or buffs. If you're getting different results in AE, you're using different slotting or buffs. I have no idea what you mean by 0.8 sec.

Rain of Fire ticks 5x per second for 15 seconds for 1.1122 damage per tick: 1.1122 x 5 x 15 = 83.415

Whirlpool ticks 2x per second for 15 seconds for 2.9195 per tick: 2.9195 x 2 x 15 = 87.585

The overall damage of Rain of Fire to have more damage than whirlpool it would have to hit at .8 seconds per hit to overcome the damage of whirlpool and be worth it. But this solves my original question. Thank you.