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  On 2/29/2024 at 1:47 AM, Sovera said:

both +defense uniques, four SOs, and Amplifiers.

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Those things are not new player/beginner friendly, and do not take into account all the other benefits I brought up in radiation armor, (additional +recovery, absorption, a self heal that is more readily available, etc).

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They are when I also point out to where they can make money, and how even without the uniques they will be at around 33% where a single small luck will put them at 45%.

 

 

I'm not discounting all the rest. Rad Armor is strong and capable. I just have an extensive experience leveling resist based armors and there is a world of difference in passively not being hit and leveling while trying to have our stat poor heals be available as we are pelted by everything that has debuffs attached.

 

We can argue at end level Rad Armor pulls ahead where Stone Armor's lack of an actual heal does not keep up, but that's where incarnates kick in. Outside of Hardmodes I think it does well enough.

 

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Soloed Manticore in 1:36 minutes, of which 20+ were spent on the three AV fights 😄  Had to use three Recovery Serums during that time but was in literally no danger since what few hits landed were regenerated before another landed, so no inspirations used.

 

The damage is very Tanker like with GFS hitting for 146 damage (not accounting for Fire Melee DoTs, Brimstone, or procs), but both got whittled down.

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Was soloing Numina when I had to face CoT and got ToHit debuffed. Fortunately Focused Accuracy was there to rescue my butt, but then I thought how it is really not needed to always have it on, and checking on the numbers, there really isn't. It is used when mobs have extra defense or when a mob debuffs.

 

So some painless minor slotting changes (acc/dmg/end instead of dmg/end) and the build has the hardcap to hitting +3 enemies without FA being turned on, which, at this point, means the endurance woes are licked at 1.6 consumption and 4.6 EPS leaving 3 EPS without accounting for the 4 endurance procs from Performance Shifters and Panaceia.

 

That does not really change my original plans for Incarnates. I'll still take Musculature with the endurance boost and then decide whether I want Barrier for a buffer towards defense debuffs or Vigor to replace a heal. The gut says Barrier since no heals help once defense is in the negatives and the extra 5% will slow down cascading failures.

 

Devouring Earth continue being a pain that I can't facetank, but it's a matter of going to a spawn, unload both AoEs, float away from the stacked buffs/debuff fields they lay down, then when they rejoin me BU + AoEs again. No biggie. Play smart 😛

 

Dat Jurassik must be resistant to fire because chrissakes it was a good 15 minutes to whittle it down.

 

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Sovera

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  On 3/3/2024 at 8:22 PM, Bacon Wrangler said:

@Sovera The link in your sig for this build comes back to this thread. Do you have posted the complete build somewhere?

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- Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds.

- Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework.

- Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.

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i did update a few things in my stone/rad build... itsa beast for sure.  i run FA all the time with no issues... no incarnates yet either.  i left the -res debuff in the auras because i team primarily and it's something extra i can bring since my damage is lower (although i dont have much trouble joining farms and holding my own or soloing +3x8)

 

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some things ive noticed...

 Having multiple sustain procs makes a big difference.   i have 4 endurance procs and 2 health procs.  so every 10 seconds i am getting anywhere from 10-30%(40%) endurance bar and 90 or 180 healing.  this fixes the end issue early (put peformance shifter in stamina, crystal armor and theft of essense in rad siphon (which i have come to appreciate).  also going 2 slot bonus with power transer instead of performance shifter gives regen instead of movement speed... i would consider the movement speed late game or if doing Granite builds.

 

at this point i have a few hundred mill invested (just working on merits for Tanker AT sets now) and its been a blast...  I FLEW to 50 in a couple days.  the defensiveness of stone fits my aggressive playstyle (its forgiving).  I typically find a central spot on mission maps and fold space to pull multiple groups to me.  (fold space, fusion, smasher, single target rotation on contaminated boss to finish off trash... it goes quick)

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  On 3/4/2024 at 12:20 AM, The_Traveler said:

i did update a few things in my stone/rad build... itsa beast for sure.  i run FA all the time with no issues... no incarnates yet either.  i left the -res debuff in the auras because i team primarily and it's something extra i can bring since my damage is lower (although i dont have much trouble joining farms and holding my own or soloing +3x8)

 

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some things ive noticed...

 Having multiple sustain procs makes a big difference.   i have 4 endurance procs and 2 health procs.  so every 10 seconds i am getting anywhere from 10-30%(40%) endurance bar and 90 or 180 healing.  this fixes the end issue early (put peformance shifter in stamina, crystal armor and theft of essense in rad siphon (which i have come to appreciate).  also going 2 slot bonus with power transer instead of performance shifter gives regen instead of movement speed... i would consider the movement speed late game or if doing Granite builds.

 

at this point i have a few hundred mill invested (just working on merits for Tanker AT sets now) and its been a blast...  I FLEW to 50 in a couple days.  the defensiveness of stone fits my aggressive playstyle (its forgiving).  I typically find a central spot on mission maps and fold space to pull multiple groups to me.  (fold space, fusion, smasher, single target rotation on contaminated boss to finish off trash... it goes quick)

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The Performance shifters are not for the speed bonus. It's just the Performance Shifter proc + a +5 endurance mod IO which is the best bang for the buck. Not sure why you'd bother slotting for heal procs when you already have Radiation Siphon on an already very defensive build.

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Personally I remain a Granite fan. It turns you into a wall by lvl 29 (lvl 21 exemplared).

 

I feel it's easy to fall into a trap of past behavior, where we had to run Granite all the time; primarily because the other armors sucked, but also because Granite detoggled everything else.

Nowadays it's entirely possible to use Granite like you would Shadow Meld or Moment of Glory. Except the duration is entirely to your liking. You pop it for 10 seconds, 20 seconds, 30 seconds, to tank whatever troublesome thing is hurting your health bar past normal armors. Then you drop it back.

Oh, and if it turns out you took it off too quickly? The recharge is much faster than SM and MoG too...

 

It's quite flexible and convenient.

 

That said, my own bias: I hardly ever fly save through a jetpack for encounters where jetpacks are absolutely necessary, and I like to do stupid stuff which might lead me to face +4/x8 or +5/x8 enemies while still mostly on SOs.

Either way I love that Stone has been buffed strong enough we can have such radical divergences in perspective and still end up with top tier characters with either choice.

 

To be honest, Stone is overpowered, but Bio is overpowered too and I'm happier seeing 2 overpowered armor sets than just 1.

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The Performance shifters are not for the speed bonus. It's just the Performance Shifter proc + a +5 endurance mod IO which is the best bang for the buck. Not sure why you'd bother slotting for heal procs when you already have Radiation Siphon on an already very defensive build.

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i see.  i figured the 2 slot of the set was for something a little extra you cant get from an enhance, and therefore more valuable.  

I slot for heal procs as a way to "increase regen" and there really isnt anything better to put in the slot.  contaminated on bosses/ebs/avs/gms can be unreliable without fusion.  im still a pretty fresh 50 on this set and i could see those slots being used elsewhere eventually.

 

i use teleport for travel (with macros).  hover on my build is for theme, and its just there for the defense slotting.  i do need to occasionally FLY DOWN to use atom smasher, but thats only after using the elevation to lazy pull with fold space (think council base maps).  Then as im coming down with the mobs i pop fusion, que atom smasher.  Combat jumping saves you some endurance and has immob res on it, so its better.  

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  On 3/4/2024 at 2:31 PM, jopred said:

I wanna know has anyone tried staff/regen on brute?

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... what's the connection with a Stone/Fire Tanker thread in the Tanker forums?

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I wanna know has anyone tried staff/regen on brute?

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Not staff/regen, but I have a savage/regen and I think slow res and recharge are paramount for a regen character. After you get that sorted feel free to stack defense to increase the time between hits so you heal more but we wary about defense debuffs in that situation. Alternatively you can stack resistance to some degree to make you have to regen less.

 

But yeah not the stone/fire and the powersets don't really relate as far as survivability.

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Not staff/regen, but I have a savage/regen and I think slow res and recharge are paramount for a regen character. After you get that sorted feel free to stack defense to increase the time between hits so you heal more but we wary about defense debuffs in that situation. Alternatively you can stack resistance to some degree to make you have to regen less.

 

But yeah not the stone/fire and the powersets don't really relate as far as survivability.

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Oh  snap, wrong thread

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Another version I've been tinkering around trying to fit everything since Energy Melee wants a lot of power and slots and Stone Armor ALSO wants a lot of powers and slots. But I managed to fit it all in though with sacrifices. Some damage procs were lost along the way, recovery (though EM is not particularly endurance heavy thanks to Total Focus having such a long animation (more time for EPS to tick) and ET being endurance free), and it niggles me that E/N is not at 70%, but it is just too many moving parts.

 

I don't particularly think that EM will do better ST than Fire Melee despite the numbers looking huge (Energy Transfer hitting for 722 without BU nor Brimstone's added damage that Mids does not show) and in AoE Power Crash being a cone will not hit all mobs like Combustion does.

 

So why EM then? Well, burst, and a deranged amount of CC for a stupidly high hitting attack set. Time to CC all the annoying mobs before they heal, pop their T9s, or, the latest peeve, transform into werewuffies,  or whatever other annoying crap they do. Even the spam of AoE (target boss, Total Focus, Energy Transfer, Power Crash, Whirling Hands, Power Crash, repeat) does AoE wide CC. Even AVs can be made to stagger.

 

The ST rotation should be something like Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Transfer, Barrage, Bone Smasher, repeat. This ends at 5.7 seconds and just in time for Total Focus to be used (5.7 seconds recharge).

 

Barrage is not very good so there is something to be said for using Energy Punch instead and have the ending at 5,2 instead since any level 50 team will be handing recharge buffs like candy (often simply in the form of Ageless). Energy Punch is also better for exemplaring and leveling since it recharges so fast that it can be a filler. Total Focus, EP, Bone Smasher, EP, Energy Transfer, EP, etc. It's a good alternative while the slotting is not all in place yet, or exemplared, and the damage loss is not even that grievous (20 points).

 

But even at max level if not minding spamming your T1. Energy Punch, Energy Transfer, Energy Punch, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch, ends with the same 5.7 needed for TF to recharge. With the ATO in EP there is something to be said for spamming it like that. In fact, I may have talked myself into doing it 😄 I'll make the changes and post both builds but will be using EP.

 

In a team that does the talked about handing out of recharge buffs like candy it is easy to just use less Energy Punches since the linchpin is always TF. If TF is up then stop EP-ing.

 

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I return from leveling the Stone/Energy up to 39.

 

Just as I remembered, planned not to do, and ended up doing, I leveled with Energy Punch and Bone Smasher and nothing else. This was a slog. I knew I should have picked Barrage as well and push something back but wasn't sure what I could do without (perhaps Rooted since we have Amplifiers serving for CC protection?).

 

But it's still my recommendation for leveling: grab Energy Punch, Barrage, Bone smasher, Total Focus. When picking Energy Transfer then Barrage can be respec out.

 

Without AoE until level 16 I did it 0x2 which was... ugh... The lack of Combustion was felt. At 16 I did get Whirling Hands and could crank it to 0x6 right away. It was still a bit slow and awkward without the extra attack since the origin power very quickly lost steam and any point in being used.

 

 

I started Posi 2 at level 14, again knowing it was not a good idea since it would mean I would not get access to my level 20 power and would need it to beat Vhaz, but I tried anyway. As predicted just EP, BS, and the origin power was not enough to whittle it down. So I started the TF from scratch this time armed with Total Focus. For the cost it has I honestly don't think that there is a point in picking TF that early. It costs too much and while it hits hard it also has a tremendous recharge that early level slotting cannot keep up with. Makes me think if I was to level it again it would be TF that I would push back. In the low levels it is best to keep hitting, IMO, and not be flogged by big gaps waiting for things to have recharged.

 

But armed with TF I got Vhaz down in a timely manner.

 

 

Teamed for Synapse, nothing special to report.

 

 

I was 28 when I soloed Yin. I had Power Crash but with no slots. Aaaand, I mean, it's an extra AoE, but... Cones suck, abysmally. They should at least have Frost's depth to be useful. Energy Transfer I proc bombed immediately as it does not need recharge nor endurance reduction and only minimal accuracy. Of course it hit hard as a truck. I was defeating Freak Tanks with BU + TF + ET with no chance of healing (unless TF missed, or ET missed.... I do love random changes of missing).

 

 

Overall the ST damage was firmly superior to Fire Melee (at least how I have Fire Melee built). Clamor was obliterated and despite being exemplared down and half slotted the rotation with EP was working fine even at that level. She was turned to paste which is a rare feeling I get from playing Tankers where whittling enemies is the normal. Brimstone helped and its effect was palpable.

 

The AoE is not great though. Power Crash hits a third of the mobs and we need to be constantly bouncing trying to line it up. Even when lined it is a cone and doesn't have enough depth to hit all the mobs. So it's a terrible level 28 AoE especially as if we hang on the edge of a spawn to hit with Power Crash then Whirling Hands is not hitting the other enemies. We need to be constantly shifting to make the most use of the cone even if trying to aim it down as a ghetto PbAoE. They should have been swapped and Whirling Hands be buffed a bit. As it is Whirling Hands is a level 16 power, animates slower and costs a bit more but does the same damage of Power Crash.

 

Pretty much for that reason I ended having the same times running Yin averaging 54-56 minutes as Fire Melee despite two shotting bosses and preventing them from healing. The Council also rarely got their transformations off because they were dead from the burst or CC.

 

 

The CC spam is simply brutal. My previous EM was with Fire Armor and used Burn as a filler so there was not as much spam of EM powers. But this time I could see everything I started hitting starting to stagger. I had Clamor drunkenly watch me as I pummelled her. Well, when her triangles were down. Still, that was a solid bit of mitigation, and as I said she melted which is a rare for me to say about my Tanker's damage.

 

 

Verdict: An awkward build with a bit too many sacrifices to be what I'd consider easy or fun. Fly pushed super later, Combat Jumping the same which had me missing those extra 3% defense. 'Late' AoE makes early leveling annoying, and having to use a cone simply slows down everything despite the appreciatively higher ST damage. Total Focus is a dastardly thing to use with its 2.8 animation and it's not uncommon to waste time tabbing through mobs trying to find one that has enough HP that warrants using it, which, in the meanwhile, has had EP recharge anyway.

 

The super high damage of TF and ET makes using anything else a waste of time to the point I catch myself not attacking a 3/4th HP lieutenant because I already realised EP + BS + EP will not kill it and I'll have to use TF, where if I wait those 3-4 seconds TF + ET will defeat it.

 

Playing the build is usually a case of TF-ing one mob, finishing it with EP + BS, then find a fresh mob and use the still powered up ET to then finish it with EP + BS (usually a powered up ET kills a +1 minion anyway, and leaves a lieutenant with a sliver of HP).

 

The endurance problems started going away despite not having slotting more recovered simply due to the fact of two shotting enemies meaning I am not spamming my attacks. That's nice.

 

 

 

FM remains my choice for an easy beginner friendly build with the dual PbAoEs allowing to fight without having to bounce around which ends up making up for the time lost having to kill mobs who are healing or transforming.

 

That said Tanker's damage is on the low side of things especially where it matters: ST. And this build puts the money where its mouth is at. That and the constant CC spam preventing them from using their skills is simply priceless makes it a viable alternative for someone who wants to focus more on the ST side of things. Which is a fair thing to do. Easy soft targets melt in the initial AoE when in a team and then its time to kill the harder mobs which are usually the most dangerous ones.

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*dusts the thread*

 

Picked this up again and started fresh. Was as good as I remember. But last time I lost interest in CoH by level 42-ish and drifted to play other games so never finished leveling and getting incarnates in.

 

After leveling it a second time I did some minor changes to the previous build. I now leveled with an Achilles -res in Greater Fire Sword and I think the effect was noticeable overall. It just felt better than having it in Fire Sword because A) Fire Sword has a low activation chance and B) when in an AoE situation I start with Build-up, Greater Fire Sword, and then go out with the AoEs so might as well see if the first hit gives the boss the -res to then be hit with the AoEs. Until BU recharges again the AoE rotation has been Greater Fire Sword, Incinerate, both pbAoEs, and again Fire Sword was being waylaid so the -res was not being used when placed there.

 

Even so it still took around 5 minutes to kill for each AV-whose-name-I-forget at the end of Manticore. Both the woman and the brick were particularly sturdy. And Jurassik at the end of Numina took 12 minutes but that guy's particularly tanky against fire damage, methinks.

 

Fire Sword is mostly reserved for pure single target moments as unlike Fire Armor this build is about defense and resists are just a bonus so I'm not as fussed about them.

 

I found that even before having the accolades the blue bar endures having Weave turned on and it was needed as I did the accolade chasing at +1x8 and the praetorian bots that do -defense were tearing my 45% defense. With 50% it was endurable. I still died pulling three groups which is where Barrier and being at 55% instead of 50% would have kept me safe, but, new alt, so no Barrier yet.

 

 

I'll try to get a pylon test just to compare how the ST is to my other builds. In the meanwhile the last version is:

 

 

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Dammit @Sovera, stop making so may good builds. I already have about 4 of yours trying to level them, now I have to try Stone Fire ðŸ˜«

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Finally went around to punching a few pylons. Turns out that despite 'feeling' good (and having a -res proc) the times are average for a Tanker:

 

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Omg, Tankers, so much DPS O_O; Can't wait for the inevitable nerf to Tanker damage over a vocal minority showcasing 5-6 damage-proc-per-attack builds as irrefutable proof of Tanker superiority!

 

Good news is that the endurance is completely licked and even with Focused Accuracy + Tough + Weave the blue bar stayed at 80% for the whole 4 minute fights (AoE will drain it faster though).

 

 

 

Anyway, not as exciting as I hoped. But it made me curious if Incinerate was worth the swap. So I respecced out of it and back to Scorch. Having Scorch makes the build semi-impervious to exemplaring (lacks a third attack until 25 (exemplared) while Scorch recharges but one of the AoEs can do it in a pinch, or one of the prestige attacks) but is it a damage loss? It should be as it is a T1 but Incinerate is a DoT, so meh.

 

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Everything seems to be about the same so there is no particular reason to change to Incinerate. Place Incinerate's slotting in Fire Sword and Fire Sword's in Scorch if wanting the swap.

 

Incinerate as a DoT sucks since we hardly ever know if we actually killed a mob and will often hit it another time just to be sure. Now, I drool at the prospect of having Cremate... but not at the cost of Combustion.

 

... *eyes Fire Breath, useless as sand to a beduin*

 

 

 

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Now, I drool at the prospect of having Cremate... but not at the cost of Combustion.

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I mean you could pick up Air Superiority and kind of close your eyes and pretend it's Cremate with the fire proc from Brimstone. 🙂

 

(This is sarcasm btw)

 

I've been running a stone/fire tank since you opened this thread (what's one more alt as I close in on 800 on Excelsior) and there is a lot to love in that package.  It definitely matures early which is really nice as I enjoy the lower level TF's.

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*dusts the thread*

 

Decided to add a 100% fresh start beginner friend immortal build (this time not just 'near immortal', we're going full on into it). This is 100% meant for new players who are 100% new so it will be overexplained trying to have no assumptions made that people know what is being talked about.

 

 

 

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No need to spend 12 million to start immortal, and no need to spam inspirations until earning enough money either. Simply reach level 13 and from then put the difficulty at x8.

 

...well, wait until level 20 because that's when the first AoE comes along otherwise you're arresting things one by one. Or just play in a team and be the Tanker That Could as nothing is able to kill you at level 13. ...man this is a long way from when I started and as a Tanker I was constantly on the verge of death even at just x2.

 

The first post has a lot of good information such as early money making and I suggest consulting it as I do not wish to duplicate the same content. The newcomer guide in my signature also has lots of tips including the possible ways to level in the game, how to pass your gear to your other alts, etc, so that too is recommended reading.

 

 

For anyone already used to the game this is nothing new as the gimmicks involved are well known but to those new this is based on Martial Arts having +10% defense from Storm Kick and Stone Armor being a defensive juggernaut. Pairing both and then taking a 1k Amplifier allows to reach 45%, the defense softcap, with just two SOs in the defensive toggles.


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Final thoughts: playing like this is pretty painful. I could say it gives the wrong idea of the game but the truth is that this is the baseline of the game. But a week or two into the game and players are earning enough to move away from these painfully basic builds that make the game feel slow and anaemic.

 

But hey, at least with this they are doing so pretty much immortal from very early on 🙂

 

 

If there is a desire for it I can turn this into a leveling build with IOs or even a final build.

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- Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things.

- Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds.

- Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework.

- Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.

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  On 11/4/2024 at 6:09 AM, DaddyLee said:

I alway love reading your guides. When you have time, I’d love to see a final build. 

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For that Stone/MA?

- Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things.

- Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds.

- Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework.

- Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds.

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