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So on a whim I hopped on my old MM Maid Of Metal, and whilst running about thought to myself she needs a new costume with the Sybil dress.  So I go to do that and noticed that every costume slot was locked (little padlock in the upper left-hand corner) off with that message about

 

This costume contains some [something something 'no longer supported choices' or whatever] and will change if you open it. 

Do you want to proceed anyway?

 

Can anyone spot which part is no longer supported in its place?  Did the cyber arm option get moved or something maybe?  Did something here actually get removed for good?

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I wish it did.  I suppose I could save the costume, then try and load it onto a new toon, and see what goes away; sadly my time for playing tonight is over.  I was sort of hoping maybe someone here might know, or a helpful Dev might happen by (hint hint)...

 

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7 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

I suppose I could save the costume, then try and load it onto a new toon, and see what goes away

 

You can just back out of the costume editor on the existing character.

Get busy living... or get busy dying.  That's goddamn right.

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This happened to my old Merc MM as well, I assume now, because of the rifle? Was the name of a rifle changed or a new rifle added, what gives?

 

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46 minutes ago, Lockely said:

If she's a bots MM, it's her rifle. All my beam rifles got flagged as invalid this update.

Bingo, That's it, thank you.

 

I think they added a few new ones this time, which might have somehow messed up the order?

 

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I just want to add this detail related to the Sybil pieces specifically, in case anyone else was as confused as I was about how why it might not be showing up as an option in the costume designer. You can't use a back slot item and the Sybil chest at the same time, have to pick one or the other. A friendly player passed along that info to me so I wanted to pay it forward.

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23 hours ago, Dungeoness Eloora said:

I just want to add this detail related to the Sybil pieces specifically, in case anyone else was as confused as I was about how why it might not be showing up as an option in the costume designer. You can't use a back slot item and the Sybil chest at the same time, have to pick one or the other. A friendly player passed along that info to me so I wanted to pay it forward.

I do wish they could have flagged the celestial pieces that float behind your head as allowable. They would go great with the Sybil outfit.

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45 minutes ago, Marshal_General said:

I do wish they could have flagged the celestial pieces that float behind your head as allowable. They would go great with the Sybil outfit.

My understanding on how The Things Work is that it's a matter of attachment points, not just setting a flag.  I'd guess the shouldery-cape thingies take up that back attachment point, so nothing else can be fit on there.

 

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1 hour ago, Marshal_General said:

I do wish they could have flagged the celestial pieces that float behind your head as allowable. They would go great with the Sybil outfit.

Me too. I was using the glowy light wings before, which don't even interact with the player's physical back in a visible way, but as CD5 mentioned, there are baked-in limitations to displaying costume parts. Maybe one day the devs will tinker with it to allow more part stacking.

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On 2/28/2024 at 4:31 PM, Clave Dark 5 said:

My understanding on how The Things Work is that it's a matter of attachment points, not just setting a flag.  I'd guess the shouldery-cape thingies take up that back attachment point, so nothing else can be fit on there.

I happen to have access to the old Titan Icon client, and bizarrely enough, the Sybil dress is listed as a chest detail. 

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Unlike on HC, the dress actually works not only with back parts, but with non-Sybil belts as well. Really, the only problem is the necessity of using the linked colors option to color the front of the dress.

Then again, HC itself has a weird loophole in the attachment point system because it lets one use the waistcape version of the Tech Knight belt alongside a back option, or even an actual cape... provided you're not using a chest option from the Armored category, which I always found weird.

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On 2/29/2024 at 4:06 PM, Vic Raiden said:

I happen to have access to the old Titan Icon client, and bizarrely enough, the Sybil dress is listed as a chest detail. 

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Unlike on HC, the dress actually works not only with back parts, but with non-Sybil belts as well. Really, the only problem is the necessity of using the linked colors option to color the front of the dress.

Then again, HC itself has a weird loophole in the attachment point system because it lets one use the waistcape version of the Tech Knight belt alongside a back option, or even an actual cape... provided you're not using a chest option from the Armored category, which I always found weird.

Sybil + wings looks amazing.

Same without that giant belt.

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That belt is the bane of that costume. It is too big and unrealistic to even be able to wear and move freely in, assuming it's made of metal. I wish there was just a thin, braided cloth cord attaching the front skirt to the back.

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