shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 GENERALLY, DEBUFFS IN THIS GAME ARE UNDERPOWERED. THINK THEY COULD USE A BOOST IN %. EXAMPLE: https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Time_Manipulation; https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=defender_buff.time_manipulation.times_juncture&at=defender DEFENDER PRIMARY: TIME POWER: TIME'S JUNCTURE SPECIFICALLY: TOHITDEBUFF = 15.625% SCREEN #1 = 67% ENHANCED TOHITDEBUFF; LVL 51 TOON; AV=+3 3 PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 SO YOU SAY, CLICK ON POWER BUILD-UP... SAME DEFENDER, SAME 67% ENHANCED WHILE ADDING PBU... PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE... MAYBE IF WE ADD A 100% RES DEBUFF TO THE ENEMY... SAME DEFENDER W/67% ENHANCEMENTS AND POWER BUILD-UP AND NOW 100% RES DEBUFF TO EMEMY... PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 (edited) SO BEFORE IT STARTS... BOPPER GUIDE TO DEBUFFS: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/21251-how-to-calculate-debuffs/ AND EXAMPLE BELOW ...USING BOPS EXACT SAME GIVEN CONDITIONS. Edited September 30 by shortguy on indom ADDED LINK PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 A "SMALL" PURP DEF INSPIRE = 12.5% SUGGEST EVERYONE STICK TO THOSE SINECE A -TOHITDEBUFF TO ENEMY = A DEFENSE BUFF TO YOURSELF. PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 +3 AV designed and intended to be tackled by a team and being debuffed by one defender that isn't even a specialist is such a blatantly contrived bullshit argument that it's pathetic. Live in shame. 1 1 2 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 EXACTLY... THAT IS WHY I MADE A CHART TO INCLUDE +0, +1, +2, +3, +4, +5 LOOLZ NICE TRY. PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 purple fear set otw. 1 PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Um, are we playing the same game? Debuffs are the only way to solve some encounters, because mobs are simply too strong without leveraging them. You know what? Screw it. Buff Cold Dom more! 1 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 22 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said: Um, are we playing the same game? Debuffs are the only way to solve some encounters, because mobs are simply too strong without leveraging them. You know what? Screw it. Buff Cold Dom more! COOL. ARE WE READING THE SAME CHART? PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 NEXT UP... RADIATION INFECTION SET-UP: AT: DEFENDER POWERSET: RAD PRIMARY POWER: RADIATION INFECTION: https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=defender_buff.radiation_emission.radiation_infection&at=defender THIS POWER HAS A DEF DEBUF AND A TOHIT DEBUFF. WILL GO THROUGH BOTH. FIRST CHART: DEFDEBUFF 100% PRE-ED ENHANCEMENTS BASE STRENGTH = 31.25% = 0.3125% PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickshooter Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Maybe I'm reading your chart wrong, but bosses, lieutenants and minions do not have ~85% resistance to debuffs. That is unique to Archvillains, Heroes, Monsters, Giant Monsters, and (only some) Elite Bosses. It's pretty uncommon to encounter a minion, boss or lieut that even has ANY resistance to debuffs (besides the inherent resistance to -Resistance and -Damage provided by having +Resistance). 1 Buff Trick Arrows! | Buff Poison!Powerset Suggestions: Circus Performers | Telepathy | Symphonic Inspiration | Light Affinity | Force Shield | Wild Instincts | CrystallizationOld Powerset Suggestions: Probability Distortion | Magnetism | Hyper-Intellect I remember reading Probability Distortion a few months back and thinking it was the best player proposed set I'd ever seen. - Arbiter Hawk 💚 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 NEXT.. SAME AS FIRST CHART 100% PRE-ED ENHANCHEED ADDING POWERBUILD-UP PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 NEXT UP... SAME AS BEFORE BUT ADDING 100% RESDEBUFF ON ENEMY DEFDEBUFF LOOKS LIKE THIS: 100% PRE-ED ENHANCMENTS POWER BUILD-UP 100% RESDEBUFF PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 4 minutes ago, Trickshooter said: Maybe I'm reading your chart wrong, but bosses, lieutenants and minions do not have ~85% resistance to debuffs. That is unique to Archvillains, Heroes, Monsters, Giant Monsters, and (only some) Elite Bosses. It's pretty uncommon to encounter a minion, boss or lieut that even has ANY resistance to debuffs (besides the inherent resistance to -Resistance and -Damage provided by having +Resistance). THIS IS MAX LIMIT RESISTANCE OF EACH CLASS. IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT RESISTANCE, LET ME KNOW, WILL WORK THOSE OUT. PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 AS CAN BE SEEN HERE I HOPE, SCHED A POWERS ARE STRONGER THAN SCHED B. PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 HAVE TOHIT DEBUFF SCREENIES. NO EXPLANATION UNLESS SOMEONE ASKS. PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Girl Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 ty for your service. 1 g_d's lil' monster ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 I say boost enemy debuffs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 26 minutes ago, shortguy on indom said: COOL. ARE WE READING THE SAME CHART? Charts in a vacuum are not the same as actual gameplay. I have many debuffers that already turn +4 mobs into paper. Hell, my best AV/GM soloer is a Necro/Dark with no inherent armor, but once the -tohit starts flying, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference! And it can drop targets in a handful of seconds! I think buffing that any further would be extremely unreasonable! 1 1 1 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickshooter Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) 30 minutes ago, shortguy on indom said: THIS IS MAX LIMIT RESISTANCE OF EACH CLASS. IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT RESISTANCE, LET ME KNOW, WILL WORK THOSE OUT. I'm not sure what you mean by "max limit resistance of each class"? Every debuff has it's own minimum and maximum cap; there is no global debuff resistance attribute. There are ArchVillain_Res modifiers, but again these are only used on some Elite Bosses and enemies of higher rank, and it only exists to scale their resistances up from 60% to 87% as they go up in level. You will almost never encounter a boss or below with blanket 85% Resistance to any debuff unless you're fighting +6s or higher, in which case the purple patch will reduce your effectiveness down to 15%. Time's Juncture, 3 slotted for ToHit Debuff Strength against most +3 minions, lieuts or bosses is going to be debuffing ToHit by about -15.8%, not ~3%. Edited September 30 by Trickshooter 1 1 Buff Trick Arrows! | Buff Poison!Powerset Suggestions: Circus Performers | Telepathy | Symphonic Inspiration | Light Affinity | Force Shield | Wild Instincts | CrystallizationOld Powerset Suggestions: Probability Distortion | Magnetism | Hyper-Intellect I remember reading Probability Distortion a few months back and thinking it was the best player proposed set I'd ever seen. - Arbiter Hawk 💚 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 22 minutes ago, Ghost said: I say boost enemy debuffs THOUGHT IT WAS TRAY OF REDS? PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 17 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said: Charts in a vacuum are not the same as actual gameplay. I have many debuffers that already turn +4 mobs into paper. Hell, my best AV/GM soloer is a Necro/Dark with no inherent armor, but once the -tohit starts flying, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference! And it can drop targets in a handful of seconds! I think buffing that any further would be extremely unreasonable! TRAY OF REDS PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 5 minutes ago, shortguy on indom said: TRAY OF REDS No! 1 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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