PLZ Fix DeBuffs

[shortguy on indom]

• GENERALLY, DEBUFFS IN THIS GAME ARE UNDERPOWERED.
• THINK THEY COULD USE A BOOST IN %.

 

EXAMPLE:  https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Time_Manipulation; https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=defender_buff.time_manipulation.times_juncture&at=defender

DEFENDER

PRIMARY: TIME

POWER:  TIME'S JUNCTURE

SPECIFICALLY: TOHITDEBUFF = 15.625% 

 

SCREEN #1 = 67% ENHANCED TOHITDEBUFF; LVL 51 TOON; AV=+3

 

[shortguy on indom]

SO YOU SAY, CLICK ON POWER BUILD-UP...

 

SAME DEFENDER, SAME 67% ENHANCED WHILE ADDING PBU...

 

 

[shortguy on indom]

• SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE... MAYBE IF WE ADD A 100% RES DEBUFF TO THE ENEMY...
• SAME DEFENDER W/67% ENHANCEMENTS AND POWER BUILD-UP AND NOW 100% RES DEBUFF TO EMEMY...

 

[shortguy on indom]

• SO BEFORE IT STARTS...
• BOPPER GUIDE TO DEBUFFS:  https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/21251-how-to-calculate-debuffs/
• AND EXAMPLE BELOW ...USING BOPS EXACT SAME GIVEN CONDITIONS.

 

Edited September 30 by shortguy on indom
ADDED LINK

[shortguy on indom]

• A "SMALL" PURP DEF INSPIRE = 12.5%
• SUGGEST EVERYONE STICK TO THOSE SINECE A -TOHITDEBUFF TO ENEMY = A DEFENSE BUFF TO YOURSELF.

[Luminara]

+3 AV designed and intended to be tackled by a team and being debuffed by one defender that isn't even a specialist is such a blatantly contrived bullshit argument that it's pathetic.

 

Live in shame.

[shortguy on indom]

• EXACTLY... 
• THAT IS WHY I MADE A CHART TO INCLUDE +0, +1, +2, +3, +4, +5
• LOOLZ NICE TRY.

[tidge]

[shortguy on indom]

• purple fear set otw.

[Spaghetti Betty]

Um, are we playing the same game? Debuffs are the only way to solve some encounters, because mobs are simply too strong without leveraging them.

 

You know what? Screw it. Buff Cold Dom more!

[shortguy on indom]

22 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Um, are we playing the same game? Debuffs are the only way to solve some encounters, because mobs are simply too strong without leveraging them.

 

You know what? Screw it. Buff Cold Dom more!

• COOL.
• ARE WE READING THE SAME CHART?

[shortguy on indom]

• NEXT UP... RADIATION INFECTION

SET-UP:

• AT: DEFENDER
• POWERSET: RAD PRIMARY
• POWER: RADIATION INFECTION: https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=defender_buff.radiation_emission.radiation_infection&at=defender

 

• THIS POWER HAS A DEF DEBUF AND A TOHIT DEBUFF.
• WILL GO THROUGH BOTH.

 

 

FIRST CHART:

DEFDEBUFF

100% PRE-ED ENHANCEMENTS

BASE STRENGTH = 31.25% = 0.3125%

 

 

 

 

[Trickshooter]

Maybe I'm reading your chart wrong, but bosses, lieutenants and minions do not have ~85% resistance to debuffs. That is unique to Archvillains, Heroes, Monsters, Giant Monsters, and (only some) Elite Bosses. It's pretty uncommon to encounter a minion, boss or lieut that even has ANY resistance to debuffs (besides the inherent resistance to -Resistance and -Damage provided by having +Resistance).

[shortguy on indom]

• NEXT.. SAME AS FIRST CHART
• 100% PRE-ED ENHANCHEED
• ADDING POWERBUILD-UP

 

[shortguy on indom]

• NEXT UP... SAME AS BEFORE BUT ADDING 100% RESDEBUFF ON ENEMY
• DEFDEBUFF LOOKS LIKE THIS:
• 100% PRE-ED ENHANCMENTS
• POWER BUILD-UP
• 100% RESDEBUFF

 

[shortguy on indom]

4 minutes ago, Trickshooter said:

Maybe I'm reading your chart wrong, but bosses, lieutenants and minions do not have ~85% resistance to debuffs. That is unique to Archvillains, Heroes, Monsters, Giant Monsters, and (only some) Elite Bosses. It's pretty uncommon to encounter a minion, boss or lieut that even has ANY resistance to debuffs (besides the inherent resistance to -Resistance and -Damage provided by having +Resistance).

• THIS IS MAX LIMIT RESISTANCE OF EACH CLASS.
• IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT RESISTANCE, LET ME KNOW, WILL WORK THOSE OUT.

[shortguy on indom]

• AS CAN BE SEEN HERE I HOPE, SCHED A POWERS ARE STRONGER THAN SCHED B.

[shortguy on indom]

• HAVE TOHIT DEBUFF SCREENIES.
• NO EXPLANATION UNLESS SOMEONE ASKS.

 

[Owl Girl]

ty for your service.

[Ghost]

I say boost enemy debuffs

[Spaghetti Betty]

26 minutes ago, shortguy on indom said:

• COOL.
• ARE WE READING THE SAME CHART?

Charts in a vacuum are not the same as actual gameplay. I have many debuffers that already turn +4 mobs into paper. Hell, my best AV/GM soloer is a Necro/Dark with no inherent armor, but once the -tohit starts flying, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference! And it can drop targets in a handful of seconds!

 

I think buffing that any further would be extremely unreasonable!

[Trickshooter]

30 minutes ago, shortguy on indom said:

• THIS IS MAX LIMIT RESISTANCE OF EACH CLASS.
• IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT RESISTANCE, LET ME KNOW, WILL WORK THOSE OUT.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "max limit resistance of each class"? Every debuff has it's own minimum and maximum cap; there is no global debuff resistance attribute. There are ArchVillain_Res modifiers, but again these are only used on some Elite Bosses and enemies of higher rank, and it only exists to scale their resistances up from 60% to 87% as they go up in level. You will almost never encounter a boss or below with blanket 85% Resistance to any debuff unless you're fighting +6s or higher, in which case the purple patch will reduce your effectiveness down to 15%.

 

Time's Juncture, 3 slotted for ToHit Debuff Strength against most +3 minions, lieuts or bosses is going to be debuffing ToHit by about -15.8%, not ~3%.

Edited September 30 by Trickshooter

[shortguy on indom]

22 minutes ago, Ghost said:

I say boost enemy debuffs

• THOUGHT IT WAS TRAY OF REDS?

[shortguy on indom]

17 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

Charts in a vacuum are not the same as actual gameplay. I have many debuffers that already turn +4 mobs into paper. Hell, my best AV/GM soloer is a Necro/Dark with no inherent armor, but once the -tohit starts flying, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference! And it can drop targets in a handful of seconds!

 

I think buffing that any further would be extremely unreasonable!

• TRAY OF REDS

[Spaghetti Betty]

5 minutes ago, shortguy on indom said:

• TRAY OF REDS

No!