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...beyond theme and damage type?  

  

On paper it looks like Vorpal is quite superior.  Downside is 2 less max targets but is far bigger/easier to hit more mobs - and Cold is a bit more exotic than Smashing.

 

I don't get it.

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1 hour ago, JayboH said:

Downside is 2 less max targets

 

To add to your point Vorpal Radial has 40 targets, 8 more than both Cryonic. But..  *shrugs* IIRC Vorpal was one of the last to get added. Cryonic was in the first batch. Back then I remember how deeply superior Ionic was to other judgements.

 

Not really created equal. 

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1 hour ago, brass_eagle said:

 

To add to your point Vorpal Radial has 40 targets, 8 more than both Cryonic. But..  *shrugs* IIRC Vorpal was one of the last to get added. Cryonic was in the first batch. Back then I remember how deeply superior Ionic was to other judgements.

 

Not really created equal. 

Yeah I made sure to list both Core versions for a more fair and direct comparison.

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Vorpal, I think, is actually the best Judgement.  I often take it, but I'm a stickler for theme, so if  one of the others makes more sense, I take one of those (pyro for fire dudes, cryo for ice dudes, Ionic for lightning guys and what not.

 

As MoonSheep says, whichever one you pick, you're getting a pretty powerful nuke that is up every 2 minutes.  But in terms of comparing them on the basis of raw performance, I agree with you that it's hard to think of a reason why cryo would be a better choice.

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I find Vorpal to be much easier to use than Cyronic.

I usually go by theme, but Ion & Pyronic are my favorites.  Ion for most targets without grouping, Pyronic for being fast to cast.

Vorpal. Mighty, and Void depending on character theme, but I tend to go to Mighty instead of Void.

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Cryonic's cone is too narrow to get anywhere near close to the max targets it can hit.  Vorpal's wide cone allows you to get all.  And I feel Vorpal Radial is superior to the Core - more targets + a 10% Def boost to counter the aggro you receive from hitting all those targets!  

 

There really is no reason to take cryonic at all except for theme.  Which is a shame.  If the cone was wider, it'd be worth it.

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5 hours ago, Lockpick said:

I almost always go Ionic because of the ease of targeting.

The majority of the playerbase seems to, but that's not what I was focusing on.  It sounds like Cryonic could use a rebalance.

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