Get rid of minimum level on most (non 50) IO requirements

[chi1701]

For me, CoX is a fun game to play with like minded players. There is no judgement on what set bonuses you have if you have any as long as you do your best when playing and this community is great for this.

At the moment, investment is better done once and once only, at level 50 with the cheapest io (if available on ah) to supplement your build untill you can buy/make the sets you need.

Since characters tend to only flurish at 50 with set bonuses with builds already planned out, power leveling is prefered method of playing. Hit 50, get sets, and then gameplay starts.

If sets and io's had only a minimum level and the stats them selves improved as you leveled, players may actually take their time to reach 50.

Since recipes are random and can come at any level and the materials are extensive, for me wouldnt become a mind field and if you did decide to make sets at low levels to end game, feel that your more likely to spend more time crafting and playing the game, since cant gurantee that the crafting materials you need will drop or the recipes them selves.

 

Il try to sumarise. Crafting sets as you level I believe is impossible, with so many slots, I feel that it would be impossible to get the recipes and mats together. Leveling wouldnt be needed to be done ASAP for builds.

[UltraAlt]

On 11/16/2025 at 10:14 AM, Uun said:

I'm not sure what the orignal devs were thinking in creating multiple tiers of IOs. Having sets cap at lvl 30 is bad too. 

 

I think they were thinking "inf sink" for both.

It would be a sign of prestige to be able to slot sets at low levels.

 

A good number of  us still know that the content can be accomplished with SO's so the IO sets are really just "extra", so they are just as much of an inf-sink as they ever were.

Well, infl-sink for some can mean profit for others.

[UltraAlt]

On 11/17/2025 at 9:39 AM, tidge said:

when I am actually slotting a Snipe set I always opt for Experienced Marksman. Typically I want the Fast Snipe anyway, but MMV.

 

Yeah, when I first started playing on Homecoming I slotted thinking "Oh, Fast Snipe is cool", but then when I realized what it was an that snipe powers automatically turn into "fast snipe" during combat I was like "That enhancement is useless". They really need to change that enhancement from "fast snipe" to something else ... I think there is a suggestion thread about that ...maybe there is more than one.

 

On 11/17/2025 at 12:15 PM, srmalloy said:

One thing that I think needs to be looked at is IO scaling, so that, while the high end doesn't change, the bottom end doesn't disicentivise slotting even common IOs at lower levels because they're no better than TOs. 

 

Which discourages slotting them until higher levels, which I don't think is a bad thing.

 

On 11/23/2025 at 8:31 PM, skoryy said:

I'd have to chew on this some more, but i really would have loved to have gotten that Bombardment proc on my current build before level 27. 😁

 

Seems to me that having to wait until 27 to slot it only make that "ding" all that much more of a feeling of achievement/success.

 

 

[tidge]

4 hours ago, UltraAlt said:

Yeah, when I first started playing on Homecoming I slotted thinking "Oh, Fast Snipe is cool", but then when I realized what it was an that snipe powers automatically turn into "fast snipe" during combat I was like "That enhancement is useless". They really need to change that enhancement from "fast snipe" to something else ... I think there is a suggestion thread about that ...maybe there is more than one.

 

I find the Fast Snipe (and range!) enhancement from Experienced Marksman to be a very sneakily good option. It is also the 6th piece, so it isn't by any means necessary... the rest of the set offers good enhancements (including Interrupt times, Recharge) what I like about this piece:

• There are a few blast sets that get a Snipe at low level, so having the Fast Snipe gives the character a 'regular' attack... I know this can feel like 'but I lost my infini-range attack!', but for most content this isn't really necessary.

The Mechanics of the Fast Snipe are such that building for +ToHit (up to +22%) adds damage to the Fast Snipe. We did lose range on the Fast Snipes, but the range enhancement helps to mitigate that. This is the purpose IMO to slot that piece even though in-combat the Snipe powers all become 'fast'. IIRC, +22% damage is what the Slow Snipe does... so a Kismet piece and power choices can have Blasters pretty much almost always at +22% ToHit.

 

I typically don't use Fast Snipe pieces on Scrappers/Stalkers... I like them to have the option for very long range attacks, and when in combat they will always have Fast Snipes anyway (as noted above).

 

[Psi-bolt]

7 hours ago, UltraAlt said:

 

I think they were thinking "inf sink" for both.

It would be a sign of prestige to be able to slot sets at low levels.

 

 

It wasn't on live and isn't now a major influence sink to use low level IO sets and/or common IOs.   It's a sink if you buy everything from the market, but not if you use AE, merits, drops, etc.  Low level IO sets are pretty cheap to craft and use if you aren't thinking of them as part of your terminal build.  Common IOs are significantly cheaper than SOs at 25+ with only a marginal loss in performance using level 25 common IOs.

 

Using SOs, especially now that Homecoming made them available so early is as much or more of a influence sink IMO.

 

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A good number of  us still know that the content can be accomplished with SO's so the IO sets are really just "extra", so they are just as much of an inf-sink as they ever were.

Well, infl-sink for some can mean profit for others.

 

Honestly, you can play unslotted and get through most of the leveling content.    But SOs (or Common IOs) versus sets is a trade off until you get to the mid-30s.  It's not like SOs are weaker.  The trade off is better enhancement values at low level versus the benefit of procs/minor set bonuses.  Once full sets are more common at level 30+ you can get full enhancement values and the benefit of set bonuses.

Edited 10 hours ago by Psi-bolt

[srmalloy]

5 hours ago, UltraAlt said:

Yeah, when I first started playing on Homecoming I slotted thinking "Oh, Fast Snipe is cool", but then when I realized what it was an that snipe powers automatically turn into "fast snipe" during combat I was like "That enhancement is useless". They really need to change that enhancement from "fast snipe" to something else ... I think there is a suggestion thread about that ...maybe there is more than one.

The Fast Snipe IO trades the animation time of the out-of-combat snipe for reduced damage, but with increased to-hit you get some of that damage back, until at 24% To-Hit bonus, you can have a Fast Snipe with full slow Snipe damage, letting you pull off faster alpha shots. Personally, I don't think chasing the to-hit bonus just for a couple of seconds faster alpha is worth it, but YMMV.

[skoryy]

7 hours ago, UltraAlt said:

 

Seems to me that having to wait until 27 to slot it only make that "ding" all that much more of a feeling of achievement/success.

 

Maybe in 2012, but HC's different. My feeling of achievement here was leveling this alt to 50 in less than two weeks.