vyrzeden Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I'm not as good with build presentation as some folks here, so I'll just get to it. The build was inspired by both Auroxis' Fire/Time corrupter build and Redlynne's Time/DP defender build. Originally I started with a Time/DP build, but started realizing that the extra debuffs that DP can use didn't get much playing time. Cryo rounds is overshadowed by pretty much all the slows from Time (Time's Juncture and Detention Field specifically) and the -Damage from Toxic rounds doesn't come into play nearly as much when you aren't hit. And since the buff levels that can be attained translate to an entire team/league, I never noticed much difference there either. So, I mostly ended up using Incendiary rounds which just feels like a worse version of Fire Blast. So I rolled a second defender! Now, why defender instead of corrupter? 1 - At its core, the difference is clearly trading damage for support, and I was OK with that for this build. 2 - The option to skip Time Crawl. It's not a bad debuff, but it's not a game changer by itself. The -Regen isn't high enough to help against AVs and such for soloing (and teams tear them apart anyway), I already had plenty of -Rech/Slow, and while the Delayed effect is nice, I didn't feel it was enough to keep it around. On top of that, the Slow IO sets are terrible. 3 - Power Boost numbers are quite a bit better on Defenders than Corrupters. Combined with the higher support numbers to begin with and the defender version softcaps an entire team/league by themselves where the corrupter falls a bit short. 4 - Automatic insta-snipe without even trying thanks to higher base ToHit in Farsight and higher power boost numbers. And it's WAY over the 22% needed. And again, it applies to everyone else too. DP of course doesn't have a snipe. A little bit about the Power as the Epic pool of choice vs Dark/Soul. I was looking for the trifecta of have a damage booster, power boost and endurance management. Dark lacks Power Boost and Soul lacks endurance management. That pretty much left power, but it works out rather well I think. As for the build itself, I prioritized recharge and damage, ending up with 115%/20% respectively. Special mention needs to be given to Farsight. When you add the power boosts from PBU and Clarion Radial, Farsight gives 41.62% Defense to everything, and to everyone in your team/league along with 34.79% ToHit. Those are not typos. Adding in Defender-level maneuvers then hits the softcap for normal content while the rest of the build gets yourself to the Incarnate softcap. And as mentioned, that is more than enough Tohit for instant blazing bolt and will guarantee all teammates enjoy the same. The cherry on top is Farsight also grants a perception boost to help with blinding Arachnos. Note that the standard IOs in the build are all boosted x5, especially worth it for the recharge IOs. Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 2.22 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Defender Primary Power Set: Time Manipulation Secondary Power Set: Fire Blast Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Temporal Mending (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (3) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (3) Panacea - Hea/Recharge (5) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (5) Panacea - Heal Level 1: Flares (A) Apocalypse - Damage (7) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (7) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (9) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (9) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 2: Time's Juncture (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (11) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance (11) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance (13) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff Level 4: Fire Ball (A) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage (17) Superior Vigilant Assault - Damage/RechargeTime (17) Superior Vigilant Assault - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Vigilant Assault - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 6: Mystic Flight (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)Level 8: Arcane Bolt (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage (21) Devastation - Damage/Endurance (21) Devastation - Damage/Recharge (23) Devastation - Chance of Hold Level 10: Rain of Fire (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (23) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (25) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge (25) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance (27) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown Level 12: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge SpeedLevel 14: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 16: Distortion Field (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (27) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold (29) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (29) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (48) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 18: Farsight (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge Level 20: Rune of Protection (A) Recharge Reduction IO (33) Recharge Reduction IO Level 22: Time Stop (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (33) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold (33) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (34) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold Level 24: Aim (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge (34) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge Level 26: Slowed Response (A) Achilles' Heel - Defense Debuff/Recharge (34) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 28: Blaze (A) Superior Defender's Bastion - Accuracy/Damage (36) Superior Defender's Bastion - Damage/Recharge (36) Superior Defender's Bastion - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (36) Superior Defender's Bastion - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (37) Superior Defender's Bastion - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (37) Superior Defender's Bastion - Recharge/Chance for Minor PBAoE Heal Level 30: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (37) Recharge Reduction IO Level 32: Chrono Shift (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (39) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (39) Panacea - Hea/Recharge (39) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (40) Panacea - Heal Level 35: Power Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 38: Inferno (A) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (43) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Armageddon - Damage (43) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (45) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage Level 41: Blazing Bolt (A) Sting of the Manticore - Accuracy/Damage (45) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Endurance (45) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Interrupt/Recharge (46) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (46) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic) (46) Decimation - Chance of Build Up Level 44: Temp Invulnerability (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (48) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (48) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance Level 47: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 49: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) EmptyLevel 1: Sprint (A) EmptyLevel 1: Vigilance Level 2: Rest (A) EmptyLevel 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Flight Speed IOLevel 2: Health (A) Miracle - +Recovery (13) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (15) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IOLevel 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 0: Born In Battle Level 0: High Pain Threshold Level 0: Invader Level 0: Marshal Level 50: Clarion Radial Epiphany Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Polar Lights Core Superior Ally Level 50: Musculature Total Radial Revamp Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment ------------ ------------ Set Bonus Totals: 20% DamageBuff(Smashing) 20% DamageBuff(Lethal) 20% DamageBuff(Fire) 20% DamageBuff(Cold) 20% DamageBuff(Energy) 20% DamageBuff(Negative) 20% DamageBuff(Toxic) 20% DamageBuff(Psionic) 4.25% Defense(Smashing) 4.25% Defense(Lethal) 4.25% Defense(Fire) 4.25% Defense(Cold) 13% Defense(Energy) 13% Defense(Negative) 3% Defense(Psionic) 5.5% Defense(Melee) 15.5% Defense(Ranged) 5.5% Defense(AoE) 3.6% Max End 115% Enhancement(RechargeTime) 10% Enhancement(Range) 2.5% Enhancement(Max EnduranceDiscount) 8% Enhancement(Heal) 45% Enhancement(Accuracy) 15% SpeedFlying 236.5 HP (23.26%) HitPoints 15% JumpHeight 15% SpeedJumping Knockback (Mag -4) Knockup (Mag -4) MezResist(Confused) 20% MezResist(Held) 20% MezResist(Immobilized) 20% MezResist(Sleep) 20% MezResist(Stunned) 20% MezResist(Terrorized) 20% 24% (0.4 End/sec) Recovery 80% (3.39 HP/sec) Regeneration 12% Resistance(Fire) 12% Resistance(Cold) 15% SpeedRunning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I mean, if you need a fancy build name, it's gotta be Summertime :P I might have some suggestions on slotting, but I don't want to make any assumptions just yet. Can you tell me what is your typical attack chain? For example, let's say you come to a mob, what AOE chain do you start with? On the other end of that, let's say you're fighting an AV, what attack chain are you using for that ST DPS? PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyrzeden Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 So the "simple" answer is, for groups I usually go Detention Field->Slowed Response->PBU or Aim (but not both as PBU + Gaussian's proc makes me hit the damage cap for 5 seconds)->Inferno if it's up->Rain of Fire->Fireball. If judgement is ready, it's then just Detention Field->Slowed Response->Judgement. Single target is typically Slowed Response->Blaze->Blazing Bolt->Blaze->Flares. If there's a couple adds still around I'll change Flares to Fireball. If Aim is up I'll pop it whenever, but I save PBU for Inferno/Farsight buffing. The complicated answer is optimal Clarion use with Farsight. Clarion's recharge is 120 seconds which is the duration of Farsight, so that lines up perfectly fine. PBU recharges in about 56 seconds, and that also works well for using every other cast to include with Clarion and Farsight, but if there is no mob to use it on pretty much exactly when it's available, I end up saving it for Farsight. So, I may have PBU at the ready but NOT using it. This is generally where I sub in Aim instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlynne Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 and Redlynne's Time/DP defender build. Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Not sure which you prioritize more, but if I'm using Blaze every other attack I would put the purple set into Blaze for added damage, and put the defender set into flares. PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyrzeden Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 Part of the reason I did it this way was the other enhancement bonuses of the ATO set vs the Purple set. The ATO has MUCH better end reduction and recharge, which Blaze needs more than Flares. I lose out on the damage proc, but the power itself performs better. In both cases, the enhanced damage is hitting 125% when factoring in the Musculature Alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I'm curious, how much endurance issues are folks having with their Time Defenders? I admit, I focus very little on endurance, and I probably drain more than most, but I still manage it fine with my ChronoShift. Plus, I think you have Conserve Power, no? I'll also admit, I don't mind seeing my endurance drop below half, and if I'm ever desperate, I turn off my defense toggles since I'm already softcapped (stealth and weave, gone). PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyrzeden Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 I can redline myself pretty fast when conserve power is down, though chrono shift helps alleviate that. Being able to use insta-snipe is great, but it has a high end cost that comes with it, think the last time I looked at my average end cost for my ST chain was something like 4.5 end/sec on top of my toggles. Also some enemy groups can lay waste to me even with everything running (looking at you Awakened and DA Banished Pantheon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 That's fair. My Dual Pistols doesn't have a snipe, but with my AoE heavy attack chain I figured I use up my fair share of endurance pretty fast. It helps having the +End accolades, too. With 120 endurance, I average about 0.9 recover per second from just the Performance Shifter and Panacea +End procs. I would go ahead and recommend putting some End Mod enhancements to your chronoshift. It does grant a recovery boost for 30 seconds which is buffable. PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgefund Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I had a fire/time/dark on live and decided to try the other side of the coin with a time/fire/dark. While I miss Scourge against AVs, I'm very happy with the offense+defense+special teams the Defender provides. Just a thing to think about - if you put the Panacea proc in Temporal Mending, it will not only have a chance to proc for you when you use it, but also your teammates that get hit by the heal. Would give you back a slot too. Obviously you've got a strong build and it wouldn't proc while you're not using your heal but I'm happy with that slotting, just something to consider. Another significant difference between my corr and def is that I went with Agility (I think) on the corr and sometimes end management was tricky, I would fire off conserve power every now and then. Now I went with Cardio for the fender and all is good on that front. I would have gone Clarion Radial, but I don't have Rune to fill in that 30 second gap so Clarion Core for me. I might re-address at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyrzeden Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 I had a fire/time/dark on live and decided to try the other side of the coin with a time/fire/dark. While I miss Scourge against AVs, I'm very happy with the offense+defense+special teams the Defender provides. Just a thing to think about - if you put the Panacea proc in Temporal Mending, it will not only have a chance to proc for you when you use it, but also your teammates that get hit by the heal. Would give you back a slot too. Obviously you've got a strong build and it wouldn't proc while you're not using your heal but I'm happy with that slotting, just something to consider. Another significant difference between my corr and def is that I went with Agility (I think) on the corr and sometimes end management was tricky, I would fire off conserve power every now and then. Now I went with Cardio for the fender and all is good on that front. I would have gone Clarion Radial, but I don't have Rune to fill in that 30 second gap so Clarion Core for me. I might re-address at some point. I may try moving the panacea proc to TM, but I always figured it would be close to a net wash in end since the power isn't free to use, while health is. But it's pretty easy to use a couple unslotters to give it a go, so maybe it works better in practice. As a point of fact, I started with cardiac alpha and had zero end issues, but didn't need Conserve Power. I started to reason that if I could keep up just enough outside of CP, then using CP for 90 seconds is basically cardiac x2, and I could try taking musculature which adds more ED capped damage. Plus, it's the only way to improve judgement/lore pet performance (and I think it improves the hybrid assault double hit damage, not sure there though). For the most part it has worked fine, but I'm tinkering a smidge to see what other end recovery I can sneak in. Have a couple changes already planned that I want to try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyrzeden Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 That's fair. My Dual Pistols doesn't have a snipe, but with my AoE heavy attack chain I figured I use up my fair share of endurance pretty fast. It helps having the +End accolades, too. With 120 endurance, I average about 0.9 recover per second from just the Performance Shifter and Panacea +End procs. I would go ahead and recommend putting some End Mod enhancements to your chronoshift. It does grant a recovery boost for 30 seconds which is buffable. Main issue with changing chrono around for me is losing the 7.5% recharge 5-piece on panacea, and I struggle to see a slot I can pillage. I have some IO changes that will give me another 4.5 max end and a bit more recovery, which I'm hoping may smooth things out outside of conserve power. And yeah, this is already with all the passive accolades too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 You could get creative with your Defender ATOs. Instead of using 5 slots of Superior Vigilant Assault, use only 3 for the 3.6% Endurance and 10% recharge into 2 powers. That's 7.2% endurance and 20% recharge with 6 enhancements. Just a thought. PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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