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This made up person sure is getting dumped on, lol.

Does a brute invul really hit 90% s/l that easy? Hmm. With the proposed rage crash though? Maybe tough matters more. Still its nbd. I was just throwing out a whatif as to why 5 pools. Realistically if they gave a free travel power that pool should count I think.

Maybe my wording was clumsy? Im on my phone. I think people who think the damage cap is too high have a pretty good point. What i wondered was that adding such a high cap might have caused some people to be more inclined to not like any of the proposed changes. And I think if so, that is unfortunate, since the damage cap really won't matter much due to the fact that when you are on a team that is at the cap you all do tons of damage anyway. So i was suggesting it might have caused some bad PR for no real benefit.

Putting words into whose mouths?

Whoa whoa whoa. Strawman? I was speculating on a PR problem with rolling out a 600% damage cap for tankers. Big damage caps are traditionally Brutes baliwick. And I wondered if that might have soured some people to the changes in general. How is that a strawman?

Could just move all ats except brutes to 500.

I wonder how much added opponents the whole dmg cap increase made to all of these tank changes in general? Basically people consciously or unconsciously mad that the brutes toes were getting stepped on. Since they are the ones who traditionally have the big cap. Versus just having made it 500% like most damage dealer ats. It really won't matter much since if you have that much +dmg flying around, nothing is living long anyhow.

You wanted to know why someone might want 5 pools I gave an example why they might. Tearing apart my speculation right down to the numbers, while fun, seems like a lot of work to me.

This is what i meant by janky. Thank you. I find that i prefer fighting on my feet vs floating. Since i was trying to imagine why someone might want 5 pools i figured it might just not be me.

Well to be fair you don't even use rage, so you aren't really going for oprimization at all.

Me personally? Cause hover meleeing is janky and looks goofy. Please keep in mind i voted jetpack.

Well lets call it an optimized classic flying brick. You aren't going to fight with hover on, thus combat jumping. Without the fighting pool you lose a lot of durability . Without hasten you loose the 5 second footstomps and the double rage. Without leadership you lose the guassians proc actually being useful since no build up. Me, id just skip flight and grab SJ and get a jetpack, but i can see why some would want it.

Im not discounting the testing. Im saying the conversations tend to devolve. And i don't mean minutia of results .. but of methodology. Its already happening.

So if i follow correctly, the punching bag damage was upped to discourage too much herding, but now people dying during runs has become a real concern?

Are you trying to suggest that when pylon times start getting thrown around, the conversations do not get bogged down into technical minutia and or massive hyperbole?

I can see it Lets say i want to make the classic flying brick SS/INV brute Combat jumping Hasten Fighting pool Leadership pool (for guasians) But wait ... What about flight?

Pylon times are kind of like COH godwin

It probably wouldn't change the game at all, but there isn't any reason to change it either. I never get travel powers anyway. I just buy a jetpack.

so the premise in this current argument against the proposed changes is that Capt PH can't do math. 🤔

Think this was a 60s song.

At least this approach is honest Don't think Ive heard the Fear Change side of these things ever come right out and say "I don't like it because I fear change"

I always love how its slanted. So when you are normally playing you take so little damage normally your green bar never moves .. Now you take 300% MOAR! so your green bar might move some, depending on your build. Its not like you are suddenly crushed by the weight of 300 Expy-Romans.

Id take peas over pineapple .. though peas really don't belong, either. There is a place that makes hotdog pizza around here. Its gross. But it has hotdogs, chilli onions, and mustard

Basically because Double Stacked Rage exists, they will never fix the powers balanced based on a game no one has played since IOs came out. Basically Jab, Punch and Hurl. KOB too really, it should have a 5 second lower recharge time

EA tanker would be very good I think.