Xandyr

Hi all! It's been a while since Bots, Ninjas,Mercs, and Necro were buffed. Has anyone "tested" or updated a "tier" list? Through my own (limited) playing, I would probably have to say that either Necro or Mercs lead in overall damage/utility. What say you?

Oh, and I never took Sonic Repulsion. Does it behave like Hurricane...aka it will repel foes and not knock them down? I do remember on a Storm toon I had, I took Hurricane and slotted the KB>KD IO, and foes were repelled and not knocked down. I'm curious to know.

I don't know how Thugs/Sonic would be, but I did roll a Ninja/Sonic. With the update to some of the pets, ninjas now heal themselves. Since they have inherently high defenses, I thought pairing them with Sonic would kinda round them out. It works decently, and I get the "Liquefy" arguement....it's nice, but sucks that it takes forEVER to recharge. While Thugs don't have a heal, and won't be near the defense softcap, I think that they will rely a lot on you,the player. Whether that's through using Heal Other, Spirit Ward, or maybe even Bonfire (with the Overwhelming Force proc), I feel that you need to have some mitigation, and strategy, before engaging any and all fights. I believe you're spot on with using KD procs! I'll also say that the(few) times I was able to find a team, my teammates liked what Sonic brought to the table...so it's team oriented, and should be appreciated if you do team.

Try to softcap F/C/E/NE defenses. Fit in as much recharge as you can. You want Ablatice, DNA Siphon, and Parasitic up as much/fast as possible.

@Zect and I agree WHOLE HEARTEDLY about people maxing out Invincibility(or other similar powers) and doing the FF proc as you said and posting it and saying "OMG LOOK AT THIS! Capped defenses, resists, and my heaviest hitting attack recharges in 2 seconds! And my heal is up every 10 seconds! This is teh uberz!"

Damn dude. Chill out. I threw that build together in like 5 minutes. I'm open to criticism, especially if it is explained why some people slot this vs that. I'm not,however, open to criticism that is insulting or degrading. I DO,however,appreciate your ideas. Especially towards the end of your post when you start to explain the "why" behind how you would slot different powers. Perhaps I need to revisit this build that I threw together and put more thought into it. There's numerous ways to build a Bio/Savage. You can focus just on heal,max hp, recharge. Or focus on hitting soft cap defenses. Or focus on proc-bombing everything. The beauty of this game, and for the most part "formite guide makers", or professional guide makers as yourself, is that the person actually playing and running the toon has many different options available and can get different inputs/ideas. Hopefully the OP builds a Bio/Savage and shares his input. I'd be curious to know, since I myself have hardly any experience with Savage.

If I were to run a Bio/Savage (which, admittedly, I don't have much experience with Savage), I'd probably do this. In OFFENSIVE Stance, you STILL have soft capped Defenses to Fire/Cold/Energy/Neg. Energy. Your S/L Resists are almost capped with 1 stack of the SMotT proc (should easily be able to double stack it, so your S/L resists should be capped). For Incarnates, I would go: - ALPHA Musculature Radial for the extra Damage and End Mod. - JUDGEMENT Void Radial...good damage, you're always going to be in the middle of things, and it also does -DAMAGE. Stacks nicely. - DESTINY Ageless Radial...Defense Debuff Resistance (since you have none) - HYBRID Melee Core...add Resistance and Regen while you're fighting. The more mobs, the higher your resistances/regen. You won't die. - INTERFACE Diamagnetic Core...the -To Hit Debuff will be a nice bonus given your Defenses. Plus, the -Regen also stacks nicely. - LORE...I almost always say whatever suits you best. Perhaps one that the pets thros out Debuffs or -Regen? Hope this link works. If not, holler and I can do screenshots for you. Tanker (Bio Armor - Savage Melee).mbd

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As stated, your pets will be over the softcap, and flirting with incarnate softcap. It should leave you with several power slots, so you could load up on the personal Beast attacks (which proc really well). You'd never have to use Fortify Pack, so your pets will always have the crit chances (which is so nice!). I had one WAY back, and deleted it around level 15/20. I got bored with it, and didn't fully understand Beasts. With the FF changes, it ought to be great. I know I love my Necro/FF.

Incarante Lore Pets List - Google Sheets Try that to find out more about the Lore Pets.

@biostem is correct. The Interface abilities DO affect your pets. You may want to consider Diamagnetic Core Flawless. It gives every attack a 100% chance to inflict a -5% To Hit Debuff and a 50% chance to inflict a -10% Regeneration Debuff. While this doesn't sound like much, it is my understanding that the To Hit Debuff can add up fast, as it will proc on your pets' attacks and yours (to a max of 4 times). It is possible to get a -20% To Hit Debuff and 40% -Regen on a single target. If someone has concrete evidence on this, please share. Anyway, that -To Hit Debuff will stack nicely with your pets' defense, and with yours. Another one that is popular is Degenerative Core Flawless. It does -Max HP (75% chance) with a minor Toxic element added to your (and your pets') attacks. The -Max HP will decrease their Max HP by 3.5% (or by a flat 1000 HP if it is an AV/GM).

I know. I was just saying that I went ahead and put the Miracle proc in Health.

I slotted Miracle in Health.

I'll admit...I DO hate trying to make sure my pets (and team members...aka my "other pets" haha) are in the radius of Suppress Pain. I also like the End Bonus from the 2 Panacea pieces and the Heal bonus with 4 Numina's (again, one of which is the proc) in SP. I am constantly healing and attacking (to spawn spectres) so the extr end recovery is nice. I'm about to jump on my PC and play around in Mids....curses CURSE!

I have the Regenerative proc in DE, and the pets get that bonus. It looks like I need to play around a bit. I have 2 Panacea (one is the proc) and 4 Numina's (one is proc) in Suppress Pain. Maybe I need to put those procs in DE along with Regenerative.

I'm on Excelsior as well. I'll look you up!

I'm playing one now! Couple things... - How did you slot Dark Empowerment? - didn't even think about going Vigor. Good call! - if you slot the Panacea proc and/or Numina's proc in Suppress Pain, it can trigger on all in the radius of it - why keep Painbringer on the Lich? I've been trying to keep it on my GKs as they have higher damage. AM I missing something? - speaking of Painbringer, how did you slot it? Enchant I think I have 2 Gladiators (one is the unique), steadfast unique, and the Imp Skin unique. I may have to revisit mine...

Savage Leap to the Beasts? That's a really good idea. It "fits" them. Also kinda think they should have a Fear. Revamp the AI also. They tend to stand around a bit. Fortify Pack...would be cool if you could "mule" the +defense/+resist IOs.

And just in case you run Pain Domination, the Panacea and Numina's proc in Suppress Pain (or Soothing Aura if you're a Defender) has a chance to proc on everyone in it's radius.

Ot sure if anyone knows, or is willing to say, but I'm curious if the Devs are planning a revamp of the other pets? We got revamped Mercs, Necro, Bots, and Ninjas. But what about the others? I'd like to see Beasts' AI improved (at the very least). Anyone know if anything else is in the works? And if so, what would be on your wish list? -X

Yes. If you slot Imp Skin:status resist/regen in your first upgrade, your zombies will get that bonus. If you slot Panacea,Regenerative,and Numina's in your 2nd upgrade power, it has a chance to proc on them.

I knew somebody did! 😃

Maybe this could work for you? Tanker (Electric Armor - Radiation Melee).mbd

You can right click the pet, and view attributes. However, don't the Genin also have "Hide"? That might explain the extra increase in their Defense.

I admit...I haven't played Bots in like...forever. Since the revamp, I've been busy playing Mercs and Necro that I haven't even thought about the changes to Bots. Anyway, today I took a look. The 3 attacks you can take each lower Regen by 200%. So, you can lower Regen by 600% just by attacking. If you pair Bots with Cold or Raditaion, you can get another 500% Regen debuff from Benumb or Lingering Radiation respectively. That's -1100% Regen debuff !!! I believe paired with Cold, you'd have extremely sturdy pets, and insane amounts of -regen. So...anyone tried this combo? If so, how is it and how did you build it? With Bots, what "secrets" does anyone have on slotting Equip and Upgrade Robot? I'm assuming the Imp Skin unique works in Equip? Does the Heal Procs (Panacea, Numina's) work in Upgrade Robot? Thanks - X