PyroNugget

"EVIL triumphs when good men(people) do NOTHING!" for the vast majority of mouth breathers, they are blissfully unaware(read:ignorant) how much damage it could cause from them making SUPERMAN or WOLVERINE to play here. for others,they do it with malicious intent.they just want to watch the world burn --this is MY WORLD too do not forget what it was like NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY THIS GAME and report ALL HERESY to your local Inquisitor (report to GMs)

the tank/corr duo is a known entity,its very efficient and checks alot of boxes of whats needed to advance. but lets be real,this is an easy game to play, any combo of duos would work as long as they dont naturally conflict like say an area sleep user paired with a melee dmg aura. brutes can be built tough,though i would still pair it with a corr or defender to help with those defenses(def based armor with cold,resist based armor with thermal) i mean theres a reason fire brutes are the #1 farming type in the game. and could be subbed in for the tank without a problem. the biggest component is ,in my opinion, the ability to DEBUFF/buff-- once sustainability is reached with armor/heals/end usage--- debuffs are the way to go. either by stopping regen so you can take down giant monsters or by reducing thier resist to overcome that regen(ideally a combination of both!) Doms are almost thier own thing,i love em, but they still pair better with corrs and defenders, they can lock down the world, but have no armor and benefit from the same buffs/debuffs the brutes/tanks would. i.e. a dom would take the place of that in the team.also perma DOM is nearly a 100% requirement as it gives mez protection and the ability to oneshot hold bosses= life or death. tl:dr the tank/corr combo will take you both farther /easier in game.(EDIT) but anything will work

do they have to be same/same theme? like fire/fire etc? --if so fire/fire tank with ice /cold corrupter --tank has burn! can self heal corr buff and debuff very synergistic combo 2. ice/ice tank with fire/thermal corrupter (ice tank can sustain recovery with absorb,would benefit from the RES buffs and heals/ corr heal also effects self and has nice debuffs late) if they can combo then fire armor/ice melee tank is one of the great combos with burn+ice patch add in the DMG from a fire primary and the cold debuffs--this would be a strong duo another option is shield tank with the ice elemental shield---looks like an ice tank from the costume alone but gives another option and pairs well with ice melee and if you want to play a little more dangerously ice/ice scrapper!(or shield /ice combo would work too and scrapper shield has an agro aura)

well...this one made my day. i can 100% assure you that neither has happened, as it is me. the system in question was built in 2007--yes it played the game when it was live-- and is now in my best friends game room as part of our weekly LAN parties. these are friends iv'e known since we were kids--played Atari 2600 with, rode bikes to the arcade with(all 80s kids)-and LANd our butts off when we got real jobs and money wasn't a gateway anymore. the reason i don't log in with it as much is we tend to shift what old games we play from year to year--like megamech(battletech) or X-Wing VS Tie fighter or unreal tournament( yes the old one) etc. i still log it in even then from time to time when i get my butt handed to me early. and that old rig will NEVER be upgraded!

yeah i keep forgetting sarcasm is lost in text. and also yes,poor choice of words on my part. i will go play a scrapper in penance. torches and pitchforks for sale in the lobby.

after looking at a few of the OPs previous posts, i think i have this one solved he doesn't play with set bonuses ,ergo must be playing SO only builds -- no set bonuses= attacks add nothing to tank defenses CHECK -- must have tough and weave help pad primary CHECK @Sovera was a weird rabbithole reading some of those posts--he doesn't use incarnates either so add that to the tankers suck pile

this is just overwhelmingly BAD information! nearly every single set bonus( barring the +2-4% direst dmg increases) are DEFENSIVE BASED let me say that again for the OP--99% of every SINGLE SET BONUS are DEFENSIVE(general term) BASED!! wish you could get to the 45% DEFENSE soft cap, better start slotting set bonus IN YOUR ATTACKS! want your smash/lethal RESISTS at 90%?... set bonuses in your attacks can get you there. ACROSS the board, you have hole, fill it with set bonuses, EVERY SINGLE SET IN THE GAME--ffs i need bigger caps so he can read. oh and as a by product of actually making your tank better, you also have +ACC,DMG,RECH and END REDUC! just shamefully bad information,this is the COH equivalent of telling people to drink bleach for whiter teeth( DO NOT DO THIS!)

this is an excellent combo to play savage is easy on the END use so it plays nice with INVULs toggles-- makes lvling up a smoother ride general tips: get the unique IOs soon as you can( steadfast,Panacea etc.)-- then unbreakable sets use TOUGH toggles on as you lvl up but once your set bonuses cross 90% smashing lethal you can turn it off and save END use i like TAUNT on tanks-- mostly becuase im lazy and the MINUS 75% range makes them run to me! many guides on INVUL here--savage is good just skip hemmorage heres a build i made( OLD MIDS sorry) it's not cheap but should give you ideas This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Savage Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 1: Savage Strike -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(3) Level 2: Resist Physical Damage -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(13) Level 4: Maiming Slash -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(29) Level 6: Shred -- SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), AchHee-ResDeb%(17), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Obl-%Dam(19) Level 8: Unyielding -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(9), GldArm-ResDam(9), GldArm-End/Res(43), GldArm-RechRes(43) Level 10: Dull Pain -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11) Level 12: Taunt -- MckBrt-Rchg(A) Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A) Level 16: Tough -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(19), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ShlWal-Def(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31) Level 20: Vicious Slash -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(21), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Hct-Acc/Rchg(23), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Hct-Dam%(45) Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36) Level 24: Resist Energies -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(50), ImpArm-ResPsi(50) Level 26: Tough Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(45), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(46), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(46) Level 28: Rending Flurry -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(36), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Arm-Dam%(37) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), WntGif-ResSlow(42) Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(33), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45) Level 35: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(42) Level 38: Savage Leap -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(39), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(40) Level 41: Resist Elements -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48) Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 47: Blood Thirst -- GssSynFr--Build%(A) Level 49: Unstoppable -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-EndRdx(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(15) Level 1: Blood Frenzy Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface Level 50: Banished Pantheon Core Superior Ally Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: The Atlas Medallion Level 50: Portal Jockey ------------

can't really lose with either.the axe cyclone is worth building a toon just for that but after a hard, frustrating day at work, WAR MACE makes me feel better hits so hard you *almost* feel bad for the enemy sometimes.smiles for miles playing them

there was a post in the tanker forums recently about making a "melee defender"-- as i have melee controllers, i thought this was a great build concept. right ,so a healer/debuffer tank..rad/kinetic with soul epic.....oops i allready have one at lvl 41 ok..try again...shield tanker with maneuvers ,21% DEF to everyone within 15' of me...erm..already got one of those at 39. so it would seem i make abnormal builds AND i have rabid altitis :)

add me to the list for being able to set flight pose in the costume creator like the stances currently are.

classic would be invul/SS...but ..that's normal supes with sparkly flight. MYSTIC needs magic!( DISCLAIMER: i despise super strength in this game) so--magic option 2: energy melee--nothing says "magic" better than glowing fists! also a classic combo with INVUL option 3 and my pick for a mystic superman DARK MELEE-- recolor to choice,every power looks or acts like a spell/spell effect- has awesome symmetry with INVUL as well. HEY SS wheres your heal?..oh you don't have one,mine is right next to my END recovery..which you also don't have!( yeah yeah no foot stomp..) add the sorcery pool for the mystic flight AND arcane bolt! instead of laser eyes and you also can use RUNE of PROTECTION! --arcane bolt uses similar set bonuses as laser eye- ranged sets loses the -DEF but can add the FF proc-- lots of power slots huh?...skip the FIGHTING POOL on this build-- boxing/kick were place holders anyways--you can cap smash/lethal WITHOUT tough and rune is the same place holder for resist-- just make up the DEF lost with weave(doable) which leaves your EPIC open to choice!( choice that will still need set bonuses if you are trying to cap DEF etc.)

this seems a bit extreme even for dark armor. because i TOTALLY never do this(i do,alot) turn sprint off and put an upside down thumb tack on the key so you dont hit it on accident! and are you really just slotting END reducers?!..cmon man.. thats paying 5 bucks to save 50cents every swing! slot ACC and DMG--a kismet at least-every miss is wasted END and i dont know how married to hover/fly you are but the Force of Will pool gets you the jump that you can slot a KB reduce in at lvl 4 and at 20 take unleash potential--will solve all your worries(DEF,REGEN and END)-for 60 seconds- also is a spot for LotG mule --like having a nice T9 at lvl 20

fun to build. here's mine if you want more ideas Unleash Potential and Strength of Will at the start of bigger/harder fights or oh sh-t buttons ( and melee core hybrid later on) -the panacea and power transfer uniques are there to help the regen aspect-- as is propping up the max health(all regen tricks) and willpower is REGEN 2.0 - heavy blow can be swapped for sweeping cross if thats more your thing DESTINY incarnate pick would be AGELESS RADIAL EPHIANY-- because the DDR on this set is just the worst This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! STJ Willpower brute: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Street Justice Secondary Power Set: Willpower Power Pool: Force of Will Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Initial Strike (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge Level 1: High Pain Tolerance (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (5) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (7) Preventive Medicine - Heal (9) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance Level 2: Heavy Blow (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (9) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (11) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus (11) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (13) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (13) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 4: Fast Healing (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (15) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance Level 6: Mind Over Body (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (17) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 8: Rib Cracker (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (19) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (21) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 10: Indomitable Will (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (50) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 12: Mighty Leap (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 14: Kick (A) Empty Level 16: Rise to the Challenge (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (27) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (27) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 18: Weaken Resolve (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 20: Unleash Potential (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 22: Spinning Strike (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (33) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (34) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End Level 24: Quick Recovery (A) Power Transfer - EndMod (34) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self Level 26: Shin Breaker (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (36) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (37) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure Level 28: Heightened Senses (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (37) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (39) Shield Wall - Defense (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (40) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 32: Crushing Uppercut (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (42) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (42) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge (43) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (43) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 35: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (45) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (45) Reactive Defenses - Defense (45) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 38: Strength of Will (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (50) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance Level 41: Gloom (A) Apocalypse - Damage (46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (46) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (48) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 44: Combat Readiness (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 47: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 49: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl

heres one i made for my invul/sword --i just swapped sets to make it axe , if nothing else i hope it gives you some ideas has 90% s/l resists without tough turned on( but i used it to level up with)- rest of the resists including PSI are capped when you hit melee core button :) the gaussians in invincibility is optional-- could put it build up for more control on the proc and use that precious slot on something else( extra 5% psi resist from aegis?--DMG proc in whirling?) if your OCD about numbers is better than mine--you could pull the impurvium resist out of resist physical dmg and its 89.22% instead of 90(tough turned off) Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! INVUL AXE: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Battle Axe Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 1: Beheader -- SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(3) Level 2: Resist Physical Damage -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(19), ImpArm-ResDam(45) Level 4: Gash -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(29) Level 6: Resist Elements -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(17) Level 8: Unyielding -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(9), GldArm-ResDam(9), GldArm-End/Res(43), GldArm-RechRes(43) Level 10: Dull Pain -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(11), Prv-Heal/Rchg(13) Level 12: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A) Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A) Level 16: Tough -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), GssSynFr--Build%(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(29), ShlWal-Def(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31) Level 20: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(21), ShlWal-Def(21), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(27) Level 22: Whirling Axe -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45) Level 24: Resist Energies -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(25) Level 26: Tough Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(45), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(46), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 28: Swoop -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(36), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Hct-Dam%(37) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 32: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33) Level 35: Cleave -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Arm-Acc/Rchg(40), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Arm-Dam%(42) Level 38: Pendulum -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(39), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(39), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg(40), Erd-%Dam(43) Level 41: Mu Lightning -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(50) Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50) Level 47: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 49: Unstoppable -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-EndRdx(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(42) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(15) Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 0: Task Force Commander Level 0: The Atlas Medallion Level 0: Portal Jockey Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface ------------

don't want to derail this thread but, Marvel Heroes was made by Gazillion and headed by Dave Dohrman, he is a grade A , 1st class scumbag. i mean typical 80's era spend all the company's money on hookers/coke and had more than a few in office harrassment cases going.....Disney found out.plug pulled FAST. an artist(stellar work) that worked for that game handle of "The Dink" also did THIS GAME!!! hope she somehow finds out about HOMECOMING. for the O.P.--champions online failed so many ways,opening day MEGA NERFS,the whole agro system, the FACES were just horrid, game world and story and basically eveything was just too cartoony. glad to be home.

made a build for a friend, as far as i can tell you can't fix the PSI hole on ICE at all. and even trying will gimp the rest of the build= so i made the rest as good as i could and left the hole, it's ices' kryptonite i guess. if you use the P2W travel powers you can drop super jump( or whatever you were going to have) and get build up back. - energy absorption has wiggle room depending on what you like/playstyle--- running ALOT of toggles though... hope it at least gives you some ideas one way or another Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! 1ICE MACE: Level 50 Science Tanker Primary Power Set: Ice Armor Secondary Power Set: War Mace Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Bash -- CrsImp-Acc/Dmg(A), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3) Level 2: Chilling Embrace -- ImpSwf-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), ImpSwf-Acc/EndRdx(3) Level 4: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 6: Jawbreaker -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(7), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(9), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), TchofDth-Dam%(21) Level 8: Hoarfrost -- Ags-ResDam/Rchg(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Ags-Psi/Status(15), Prv-Heal(15), Prv-Heal/Rchg(25) Level 10: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 12: Icicles -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(39) Level 14: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A) Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17) Level 18: Glacial Armor -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(19) Level 20: Clobber -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(43) Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), Ags-ResDam(23), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(23), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(25), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 24: Weave -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-ResDam%(29), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), ShlWal-Def(34), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Energy Absorption -- PrfShf-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), PrfShf-Acc/Rchg(27), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(27), LucoftheG-Rchg+(33) Level 28: Whirling Mace -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(34), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39) Level 30: Permafrost -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(45) Level 32: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(33) Level 35: Shatter -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(48), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Obl-%Dam(50) Level 38: Crowd Control -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(42) Level 41: Char -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(42), SprEnt-End/Rchg(42), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(43), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(43), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(46) Level 44: Fire Blast -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(45), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(50) Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 49: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-EndRdx(A), Clr-RunSpd(31) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), PrfShf-End%(5), PrfShf-EndMod(9) Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment Level 0: The Atlas Medallion Level 0: Task Force Commander Level 0: Portal Jockey Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon ------------

GOT IT!..sorta....i hate compromise i had to give up SOUL STORM and the PERFORMANCE SHIFTER PROC and i had to socket it with a lvl 30 DMG 3 pc for the set bonus cleaned up the sockets in Enviromental Modification and WEAVE, got an extra 1.5% s/l resist and few 10ths of a percent in DEF was it worth the trades? would love some feedback as i have a problem with builds like this and can't see the forest for the trees sometimes. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! 1Spines Bio: Level 50 Technology Scrapper Primary Power Set: Spines Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Barb Swipe -- SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(3), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5) Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), GldArm-3defTpProc(29), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(29) Level 2: Lunge -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(50) Level 4: Inexhaustible -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Prv-Heal(11), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Pnc-Heal/+End(42) Level 6: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(11), ShlWal-Def(25), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(25), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 8: Impale -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(15) Level 10: Adaptation Level 12: Build Up -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(31) Level 14: Kick -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), KntCmb-Knock%(50) Level 16: Ablative Carapace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(17), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(36), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(40), Prv-Absorb%(45) Level 18: Quills -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Erd-%Dam(37), Erd-Dmg(40), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 20: Evolving Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Max HP%(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(42), Rct-Def(42), Rct-Def/EndRdx(45) Level 26: Ripper -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(27), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(27), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Obl-%Dam(37) Level 28: DNA Siphon -- Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erd-Dmg/Rchg(31), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31) Level 32: Throw Spines -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(46) Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(50) Level 38: Parasitic Aura -- Prv-Heal/EndRdx(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(39), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Prv-Heal/Rchg(39) Level 41: Dark Blast -- SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A) Level 44: Shadow Meld -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A) Level 10: Defensive Adaptation Level 10: Efficient Adaptation Level 10: Offensive Adaptation Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment ------------

how important is DNA siphon?... just can't seem to fit it in. and if you all see any other obviuos/glaring mistakes please speak up Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! spines bio: Level 50 Science Scrapper Primary Power Set: Spines Secondary Power Set: Bio Armor Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Barb Swipe -- SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(3), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5) Level 1: Hardened Carapace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), GldArm-3defTpProc(29), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(29) Level 2: Lunge -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(50) Level 4: Inexhaustible -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Prv-Heal(11), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(36), Pnc-Heal/+End(42) Level 6: Environmental Modification -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(11), DefBuff-I(42) Level 8: Impale -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(15) Level 10: Adaptation Level 12: Build Up -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(31) Level 14: Kick -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), KntCmb-Knock%(50) Level 16: Ablative Carapace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(17), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(36), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(40), Prv-Absorb%(45) Level 18: Quills -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Erd-%Dam(37), Erd-Dmg(40), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 20: Evolving Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Max HP%(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Rct-ResDam%(45) Level 26: Ripper -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(27), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(27), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Obl-%Dam(37) Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31) Level 32: Throw Spines -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(46) Level 35: Genetic Contamination -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(50) Level 38: Parasitic Aura -- Prv-Heal/EndRdx(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(39), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Prv-Heal/Rchg(39) Level 41: Dark Blast -- SphIns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A) Level 44: Shadow Meld -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 47: Soul Storm -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48) Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(31) Level 10: Defensive Adaptation Level 10: Efficient Adaptation Level 10: Offensive Adaptation Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment ------------

often over looked is the 6 piece set bonus from Gaussians syncronized fire-control is 2.5% to melee,ranged and AoE( in build up or taking Tactics from leadership) add in maneuvers w/LotG +recharge and thats 5.1% to all three --- just those 2 ,if you can fit it in, would soft cap your ranged and AoE if you were at 40% base as said above the WInters /Frozen sets are loaded with BIG % in the 5pc/6pc set bonuses( targeted AoE set bonuses ttl out to 7.5% DEF to AoE!)