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This info is all gold, I appreciate it man. As someone who has ran Savage a ton, are there any specific secondaries you feel gel/synergize well with it specifically on a Stalker? My Sav/Bio Brute just feels like a great pairing on that AT. I know a lot love Elec/Shield on Stalker. I could see Savage/Shield being great for the same reasons. New Stone Armor seems sweet as well.

Elephant in the room: I know Kinetic Melee is a low performer. It needs the Fiery Melee/Battle Axe treatment. That being said, I dig the animations, the mix of ranged and melee it provides and the soft control through knockdowns. In your experience, what AT’s/combos do you feel mesh well with KM? A KM/Ice Armor Stalker seems promising. Both Ice Armor and KM do -dmg to enemies, so there is some synergy there. Icy Bastion seems really good, and burst is 100% AOE crit from hide. Any other secondaries that stick out to you? My other thought is a Kinetic Melee tanker, to take advantage of those AOE increases. Repulsing Torrent can function as a taunt and you have some nice CC. Shield could be a good pairing (Shield Charge + Burst), and it does -dmg as well. Really torn on a primary though. Dark/KM/Soul could be pretty sweet. Maybe Fire Armor/Elec Armor or Rad Armor to help offensively? I’d love to hear your thoughts and how you make Jazz Hands work. I dig it as kind of an “Air Bender/Doctor Strange” combo type of hero.

Same here, my Sav/Bio Brute is my favorite brute. The way Sav and Bio’s DOTs ramp damage with fury is amazing. @Frosticus I’ve been torn on running Sav on either a Scrapper or Stalker next. Do you feel it really shines on a Stalker the most?

I’ve been torn between running Kat/Bio and Battle Axe/Bio myself. I know you play some Scraps on the high end. Do you prefer one over the other?

I think FF/Water probably also has the added benefits of being a great combo for endgame HM content.

I’ve done Dark/Staff. I’m curious how Dark/MA would compare. Both are stupidly tough, as you both have noted.

Thanks for the info. I got it because that was OP’s question to you, comparing the two. So I was interested as well.

You like your Stone/MA more than your Fire/MA?

I have one brute that I play fairly consistently, and it is my Savage/Bio. The DOT’s from both Savage Melee and Bio Armor help ramp up fury and it is a nice little synergy. The same could probably be said for Sav/Elec and Sav/Dark though.

So I just mentioned running this combo as well in another thread. It is an absolutely beastly combo, as you said I liken it to the energizer bunny: it can just keep going and going and going.

I'm hardly as qualified to talk about DM as you are Snark. That being said, my ASSUMPTION would be Tanker. You get slightly better radius on the AOE's. I have an Elec/DM Tanker, and Shadow Maul is very nice on it. Tankers tend to be able to abuse procs a bit better as well, and proc'd out ToF is very nice. I've also ran Dark Melee on a Scrapper, DM/Shield. I'm just realizing I've never used it on a Brute, so I might just have to change that!

Appreciate this, and yeah that is why I mentioned if piloted “correctly.” Definitely seems like you can hear near the same level of an optimally driven SR with a much easier set.

Thanks all. I guess I was just hoping there was something that could help make KM more optimal on a Tanker 😂😂😂 I guess it needs the Fiery/Energy/Battle Axe adjustments.

Who has played this on a Tanker? I know it can have a bad rep, but has anyone found ways for it to shine? It’s T1-T3 attacks seem snappy. Seems to have decent crowd control with Burst and Repulsing Torrent (which is actually ranged and kind of act as taunt). The -Dmg it does can help lower the damage done to your team passively, even though it’s minor. Are there any specific primaries on a Tanker you feel works really well with Kinetic Melee? My reason for looking at a Tanker is I could probably proc out more of KM’s attacks on them, in order to help with the middling damage.

Excuse me while I go play around in mid 😂 I know everyone is crazy about Rad/SS. Elec/SS/Mu seems like it could stand out/be a bit different. I know a lot of people say Elec Armor is just a worst Rad Armor, in most cases.

This was really insightful, thank you! I like the idea of at least running OWTS and Melee Core, as needed. I do like the idea of sword and shield together. I was ALSO looking at a Shield/Fiery Melee tanker. How do you think Shield/Fiery would stack up to Shield/BS?

SR/EM could be awesome. I know Dual Blades likes the recharge as well.

That all sounds sweet. I could see Savage being pretty thematic has well. I’m thinking Vampire tanker haha

I still haven’t ran an SR Tanker yet, but I know @Linea talked about how amazing it is if piloted correctly. Are there any specific secondaries you feel pair best with SR?

I like being able to change it up to the fist animations. I feel it opens up a lot of options thematically.

I feel like this might be the min/max choice. I’m not sure where a Scrapper would pass up a Stalker with this combo. Tanker is obviously the route to go for pure sturdiness, like @Thraxen did.

I recently ran a Brute, so I’m looking at either: Stalker Scrapper Tanker Which would you recommend running Broad Sword + Shield on?

I think you’d be right. Shield Charge + FSC + Combustion seems like it’d be disgusting AOE damage. Add in the fact that you can add in -res procs in the single target attacks as well, and you’re ST damage would probably be great as well.

Shield/Fiery Melee might be the COOLEST looking combo. Running with your shield and a flame sword out is just *chef’s kiss*

Unfortunately, Stone Armor loses its taunt on Scrappers. If it had it, I feel like it’d have everything 😂