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So I'm trying to get my final Influence badge and it's a slog and a half! I know you need the inf from missions and enemy defeats, not through selling on the market. What's the fastest way to earn inf normally? Am I looking at MSR and iTrials? Or will just playing the game normally work the same speed?

"In the middle of my back swing??!" 😄 😄 😄

Don't get me wrong, not saying it's a bad thing or anything, just I know a few players who are adamant you have to become some sort of market expert and have yourself all IO'd up and packed with Purples as soon as humanly possible if you are to play the game. That works for them but I wouldn't want new players to the game thinking they are going to be unable to level at all if they can't learn the inner depths of the market economics and how to min-max. You can just play the game and have fun with it 🙂

Counter-point to some of the market players in here 😉 You don't need a huge amount of Inf to get to 50. You can get to 50 perfectly fine with just the normal in-game items you get from salvage and recipe drops if you sell them on the Auction House or to a vendor. I rarely buy anything more than just normal DO's and SO' until I get to 50, I always get more than enough Inf just by playing the game. Don't feel you have to min-max you character to be able to level up, just playing the game normally, you'll level up fast enough anyway However, when you get to 50, if you want to kit yourself out with all purple sets, become all uber-powerful, then yes, you need a metric ton of Inf and that's when you need to know how to play the markets, converters etc. There are numerous guides in the forum for this so have fun getting there!

Nope!! I don't agree with this thread, it's silly! Sorry, but I'm here to repress you!

This. So much this. A geek loves what he loves. A nerds takes things faaaar too seriously 🙂

This on a black background on my desktop, the full version of my avatar, had it done years ago and got a print version of it on my wall as well 🙂

Indeed, that's half the fun of playing a KB set, I love having to think fast and work out the best place to go to be able to use the KB to its best effect. That's what makes this game so great for me, so many powersets with different ways to play them, even on the same AT! Doesn't always go right, sometimes you get stuck in a thin corridor, usually a CoT map, those are a nightmare for my En/En blaster because I can't position at all on a big team 😄 But hey, it's all fun in the end. I often find the TF's that go disastrously wrong are often the most fun. Was on a Posi 1 the other day on a new toon, so much went wrong, we got wiped a few times, sometimes our fault, sometimes the game went full on EVIL and launched everything at us (seriosuly, I think all the ambushes at the door in the final mish happened all at once, it was mental 😄 ) and it was the most fun I'd had in a TF in a long time 🙂

Only in this thread, there are a few out there. I did a search on Knockback to see how hated and reviled it actually is and it's fairly even split, some people hate it, some people defend it. It's all good. Like I said earlier, I get it and I understand why people don't like it and that's fine, people are entitled to an opinion, they are entitled to ignore people for whatever reason they want, I just think it's harsh to insult people just because they play a KB powerset.

In defense of Tahliah, and myself as well, it does get a little wearing when someone calls you a griefer for playing KB, or indeed, when someone says that an actual game mechanic of the game is evil??? I get it, some people don't like it, I even understand it, I've played scrappers to 50 and I know what effect KB can have, but how can constantly haranguing people on the forums for playing it, sticking people on ignore without even giving them the chance to show they know what they are doing or calling them aggressive be any worse than us defending ourselves? Weirdly, it only seems to be on the forums that people scream about KB so much. In 15 years of playing a KB blaster I can think of two, maybe three times I've had any crap about it, and two of them were just after the game returned as Homecoming and I put it down to new people joining up and not knowing how to play so I gently moved on and left them to it, only one of which I ignored. I guess I just resent being insulted and reviled by some people just for playing a KB powerset. I could understand if I was being a dick about how I play the powerset, if I spent every mission being a douche who scatters every enemy constantly, but I don't, and, honestly, I've only met one person in game who did the same as well, and he was well known for being an idiot anyway so I blamed him and not the powerset.

OI OI!! Good stuff, people 🙂

I have no issue with how anyone feels about KB, if that's their views, that's fine, I'll add them my ignore list if they are being dumb-asses about and move on. People are entitled to their opinions on how the game should be played, it's wide enough for everyone. I do resent being called a griefer because I play a KB powerset though.

Cool. Cool cool cool. Anyone know how to stick someone on ignore on the forum? I'm done with this. Never mind, figured it out.

No, actually, I haven't, mostly because I know how to play my character and don't knock everybody around mindlessly, and also because leave teams for dozens of different reasons. You do realise, short of slotting every single power with the KD enhancement, it's impossible to avoid the knockback at times? I'm not going to slot it in every power because that limits the effects of a full set of IO's and Purple sets etc so that's not happening. I only have the one AOE with knockback and that's Nova which usually is used to either end that group before we even get started or as a last resort when things go pear shaped. The single shot powers with knockback I use carefully, trying to position myself so that it's a useful KB, ie into a wall or a corner, but you know what, that's not always possible! When it's a full team in an ouroboros corridor, I can't get past people to be in a good shot so have to just blast away. Or if it's a wide open field map, like the carnies, no matter where I stand, KB knocks them away and there's very little I can do about that. If I can, I try and fly over them to turn it in an effective KD. But hey, you'd just see me on the team as a KB blaster and just refuse to team with me as a "griefer" or a bad player, making assumptions before even finding out how well I can or can't play. Works both ways though. Like finding that annoying scrapper who runs off and aggros the entire map without warning, the healer who goes AFK with no warning, the tank that drags too many people to one spot before the team is ready or the player who clears half the map before the rest of the team have even gotten into the mish. All of these can be annoying, do you refuse to team with them? Or the worst one, the idiot who tries to tell people how to play their characters on a game when it's got sod all to do with them. They are the worst of the bunch and the only ones I tend to ignore. The rest can be annoying at times, but at least they add some fun and excitement to the game at times 🙂

Are you.....are you for real?? Widely?? In 15 years of playing this game with an En/En blaster as my main, I've maybe met 2 or 3 people who complained enough to stand out in my memory, so I think that's a BIG claim!! And calling me a griefer?? For the love of the gods, put me on your ignore list immediately! Jeez!

Heh, amusingly, I started reading this thread and thought about it, realising the only people I've stuck on ignore were the ones who tell me how to play my characters, especially my EN/EN blaster that is my main and then I saw the argument in here 🙂 Sorry, but it annoys me when I've had people tell me how to play my main, or any of my characters. I've played him since live launch, I know exactly how to play him, how to make him effective in groups and TF's, almost all my attacks are single shot KB except for Nova (which usually ends a battle) and I know where to position myself in a group battle to be effective. Saying that, occasionally it happens I knockback an enemy that I can't avoid, it';s either that or die 🙂 The one person I've ignored both went on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on through the missions about it. I explained I knew what I was doing and it was unavoidable. It was fairly early back after the game came back, I was still low level, hadn't gotten enough inf yet for the enhancements to change to KD and I was STILL getting crap from the player about it. The rest of the team were defending me and explaining and he STILL complained about it every time I shot someone, saying I was a bad team player and should PL to get the inf I needed. Screw that 😄 So, yeah, I thanked the rest of the team for the fun, politely left and went about my business. This guy then sent me tells to call me names, telling me I was pathetic for not accepting advice, was a loser who was rubbish in a team etc, so I smiled politely, thanked him and *plonk* he's on ignore. He's still there as well. I was in a recent Posi 2 when someone started telling off another team member for not doing the TF his way (he wasn't the team leader, btw) complaining that someone started killing the groups of COT in the wrong order in the final part inside the Longbow base. We explained that there was nothing wrong with the order we were doing, the team leader had called it already and he still complained saying were useless for not doing it the "correct, faster" way. He had been bitching at another team member earlier for how they had been playing their character, how they were doing it wrong, how they should do it his way because he had a 50 of a similar build and was starting to upset the other player. I sent tells to the person getting the crap and reassured them they were doing fine and they seemed to appreciate it. I was going to stick the idiot on ignore but he got a mouthful off the rest of the players and was nearly kicked from the TF before the end so he shut up and stayed silent in the end. These are the only type of people who annoy me. This game is not the hardest game in the world, it's pretty easy to do and rarely have I been in a team or TF that has gone really badly, so pretty much all builds are viable and useful as far as I'm concerned. No one has the right to be a douche and tell me how to play the game. If you don't like it, leave, especially if it's my team. Complain long enough, you get kicked, simple as. So, yeah, just one person on my ignore list. For now 😉

Been trying it out, early days for me yet, only up to lvl 4 so far and 3 attacks 😄 Seems interesting, if a little slow paced so far. Rolled a Thaumaturge on a free trial, if I like it I'll keep going for a while, perhaps. Not entirely sure I understand the whole Data centre things? Are these like servers on here? And why are there so many??

Currently downloading the free trial to check it out. I remember being in the beta for the original game and not liking it at all but I kno it's a totally different thing now and heard good things, so I'll give it a free go at least.

Yeah, been here since the reboot 😉 Which server you on?

Caereen! Welcome back! 🙂

I've been here since the beginning so my main is on Torchbearer, but I've been using all the servers recently, especially Excelsior, seems to be the busiest usually. 🙂

Good thanks, always around, there's a Coin on every server now.....Crisis of Infinite Coins 😉

Order of the Cruciform Swords, wasn't it? 😉

Ooh, that doesn't bode well for me 😄

Conversely, I loved it and can't wait for the next season 🙂