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47 minutes ago, Starforge said:
If the NPC was there for the entire year and not a minuscule three week period, I would probably say sure why not to moving her.
This though just seems like a waste of time for an already volunteer development group to bother to mess with when the easiest course of action is some players will just have to move somewhere else for a couple weeks until they can get their sacred spot back.
if they feel like doing it for next year’s event, sure have at it.
As I said in the first post. If it's a time consuming thing, do it next year. Though I'm not sure why people keep claiming it's some arduous task to move an NPC. Would you say it's a waste of time if all it takes it logging in and typing in a command to move her? Do you know it would be a time consuming change or are you just guessing?
Everyone has adjusted. No one has seen her in that spot and had a meltdown and stopped RPing. It doesn't mean people haven't seen her and thought "I wish they hadn't put her there".
I'm not arguing because this is some sacred spot that must be preserved. It's just a spot people like to use. I know there's other places people can and do RP.
I'm just tired of people who don't RP saying there's no reason to make changes for RPers. And RPers who look down on those who RP in Pocket D. Who don't RP in Pocket D, chiming in to say they don't think it's worth it. If they dropped her in the middle of your SG base for a month would you be as dismissive?-
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1 minute ago, Rudra said:
Wow, look at all that space not being used by RP'ers. If only someone had suggested that spot before you started this thread. There may not be people in any given space when you are there, but that does not mean the space is not used.
This conversation has again devolved. I'm done with this thread. It has always been up to the devs as to what happens, so let them decide. Since you are unwilling to actually get with the community you insist is being made to suffer.
I made a thread suggesting a change. Several people expressed their support. Several people who don't RP said they don't see the point. You stomped your feet and complained without any reason for not supporting it other than "but the community hasn't been consulted!"
Do you expect me to start a change.org petition and get signatures from everyone in Pocket D? -
Wow look at this perfect spot that exists that isn't used by RPers.
Man if only someone had suggested that spot before you spent all this time arguing.-
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23 minutes ago, Rudra said:
Later? Someone started a new thread requesting she be moved. And not a single RP'er supported the suggestion because they did not want her moved to where they RPed. They didn't oppose the suggestion, they just didn't support it.
I really, really, REALLY wish I could show you that discussion. I didn't even have a forum account, but since I RP'ed, I followed along and read it. Painfully. So please. Gather the RP community together and hash out where she should be moved to. FInd some place, any place where she can be found without having to find some hidden back room closet that doesn't inconvience anyone at all.
Edit: If you aren't willing to work with the community to find that new place? Then you're request boils down to: She is inconveniencing me, move her to bother someone else.
Read the thread again. Several people have expressed their support now. Sorry if change scares you.
Tell me how moving her to the side next to War Witch would be inconvenient to anyone.
Why are you claiming I'm unwilling to find a better spot for her? I suggested she be moved and offered a possible location. You haven't given any reason having her on the side with War Witch is a bad idea. All you're doing is making claims about things that may or may not have happened in 2012.28 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:
It's pretty obvious to anyone who stops and thinks for as little as a millisecond that "can't roleplay in that exact spot in the vastness of Pocket D" and "can't do the ITF at all" aren't even remotely the same thing. So, the end result is it wasn't the argument you oppose that ended up looking ridiculous.🙂 You think my example is stupid and I think yours is. Sorry you aren't able to see the benefit of things that aren't specifically catered to your interests.
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4 hours ago, biostem said:
There is some oddity to how items are claimed, as if you sell more than like 20 or so items, the game makes you wait a bit before claiming more, but if you claim like 19, you can immediately go and claim another 19, so I wonder if it's a fairly low amount to keep bandwidth stable or limit simultaneous read-writes of database entries to the AH... *shrugs*
You used to be able to spam-claim, but it was straining the servers, so they added the wait period.
Which is why I wish there was a "claim all" that automated the claiming with that interval built in.-
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8 hours ago, Rudra said:
And the best argument given was a false equivalency about an ITF not being available because of a different character whereas the space is still there, but happens to have a single character present
Turning the "I don't care about RPers because I don't RP, so don't make changes for the benefit of RPers" around into "I don't care about PVErs because I don't PVE so don't make changes for the benefit of PVErs" was meant to show how ridiculous it sounds. ITF isn't available but doing TFs is available in a different spot. RP in that spot isn't available but RP is still available in a different spot.
8 hours ago, Astralock said:Counter proposal: Move War Witch to stand next to Jessica Megan Duncan. /s
See? Someone reasonable with a counter proposal! 😛
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11 minutes ago, Rudra said:
Personally I think it would be better if items that can be stacked could be e-mailed stacked. Would alleviate the need for this. Or at least mitigate it. So things that don't stack such as enhancements and inspirations would still need to be sent (and claimed) individually, but things that do stack like salvage and recipes can be sent in groups of 10 (AH limit). That would facilitate transferring items between alts without risking undue strain on the server's capabilities. And if the OP were to also be implemented? Further simplify the process of transferring assets between alts.
Also a good solution. Just something to make it less of a chore.
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5 minutes ago, Rudra said:
My guess is this would need to be limited to "Claim X" where x is the current limit for what the server can process at a time.
If that's what they can do, that's what they should, I think. Any number greater than 1 at a time would be a good quality of life improvement.
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Would it be possible to create an option to automatically act on an entire stack of items instead of requiring to do it one at a time (like claiming multiples of the same item in the mail, or opening multiple booster packs) or automatically create the maximum number of stacks of items in the AH (instead of needed to do it 10 at a time.
So instead of:
- Claiming 100s of Candy Canes, Boosters, Converters, etc. from the mail 1 at a time ----> hit a "claim all" button, and wait for how ever long it takes for the server to carry that out without needed to keep clicking.
- Listing 300 Candy Canes by dragging the stack over 30 times because the maximum listable stack is 10 ---> Drag an entire stack and have it create as many stacks of 10 as possible, then one stack of the remainder.
- Opening X amount of Super Packs 1 at a time ----> Automatically open all of them and send the rewards directly to the mail.
I know you can't rapidly click "claim" in the mail because it puts a strain on the server, so maybe some sort of built-in interval that spreads out the claiming enough that the strain is minimized.
Obviously this isn't specific to Candy Canes and Super Packs. They're just examples!-
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2 minutes ago, Rudra said:
And maybe the devs will agree.
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7 minutes ago, Rudra said:
Looks like RP is available still.
I'm not sure you've ever played with more than just yourself, becausee if you did, or do, you'd know that crowds take up space, and in this game, only a few people would be enough to fill everything in your screenshot due to the size of hitboxes.
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3 minutes ago, Rudra said:
I wasn't even part of the conversation back then. And the answer was in response to previous requests. Not current request. Keep trying. Maybe you'll eventually land a relevant statement.
Do you have any proof it was requested back then? Show me the wayback machine? Because is sure looks like you're bullshitting. Keep trying, maybe eventually you'll land on a relevant statement.
The fact is, it's been requested now, and has support now.
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2 minutes ago, Rudra said:
Yes, this was requested previously. It wasn't supported even by other RP'ers, so it died.
It wasn't supported by you. You're not the entire RP community are you? Shadeknight supported it. Did you miss that? He's an RPer.
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I'm not sure where you see me saying that.
People don't spend their whole lives waiting for buses at bus stops. People don't spend their entire time in CoH doing ITF.
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5 minutes ago, Starforge said:
I doubt the wayback machine has posts about RP when she was placed there for the 2012 event but unless someone can link to posts here, was this even brought up in 2020, 2021 or 2022 here?
What does it matter if no one brought it up before? It doesn't make it any less true that people like to congregate there to RP. Maybe she's been there the last 3 years. Does that mean it's impossible to improve the spot she's put in?
They moved War Witch for the same reason, and she was in her original spot in Pocket D for much longer than this event has been a thing.-
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Did I say anything about being unable to RP anywhere else?
Nope. I said this is a spot people like to play, and there's a better spot for the NPC that is less in the way.
I don't understand why moving her to a spot people don't use that is still very accessible is a bad idea. -
Just now, Rudra said:
@Doc_Scorpion is right, There is even room to RP at the area where she is. Lots of open space. However, @Wravis is complaining about that one little spot she is in. Not to mention all the other spaces in Pocket D that are available. Like the chalet. The zones Null can send you to. Studio 55 accessible right there in Pocket D. Nope. That one little space occupied by a single contact is the only space available for RP in Pocket D.
At least be less disingenuous when you're being wrong.
Player hitboxes are huge, and people are careless. People plow through RPers anywhere remotely near her. That whole wall is in the splash zone until you get to the dart boards. And if more than one person is there RPing (which is, it might surprise you, how RP happens), there's even less room. -
7 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:
That's... not hyperbole. That's utter nonsense. Nothing is preventing you from roleplaying from three weeks. Absolutely. Nothing.
If you absolutely must roleplay in that exact tiny fraction of Pocket D's vast floorspace and plethora of walls to lean on, that's on you and your headcanon. That's not the Dev teams problem.Nothing is preventing you from doing TFs for those three weeks. Absolutely nothing.
If you absolutely must fight enemies in that exact tiny fraction of CoH's vast mission maps, that's on you and your headcanon. That's not the Dev team's problem-
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4 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:
Yeah, I just went and looked at where she is and I'm not seeing anything to justify that level of angst and hyperbole.I was matching the level of hyperbole with Rudra's Table Reservation example.
How about this one?
They replace Imperious with Jessica. You can't do ITF for 3 weeks. But that's fine. Apex and Tin Mage are right over there. You can still fight enemies and beat bosses. You might not be doing it where you want to be, but you're still fighting enemies and defeating bosses. Deal with it for 3 weeks. -
Or think of it as a bus stop being filled with Holiday nonsense so no one can sit, and people saying "just wait for the bus on the other side of the road". There's no benches on that side of the road. There's no roof to protect from the elements. Sure you can get the bus, but you're inconveniencing everyone who uses that bus stop.
And then being unwilling to move the holiday decoration because "you can use the bus stop every other day during the year".
What do you gain by having her in that spot when there's a spot just on the other side of the room that works just as well but isn't used by people? What is the benefit of having her where she is as opposed to on the side with War Witch? Because there's a detriment to having her where she is.
Why are you advocating inconveniencing people when there's a solution that doesn't hurt anyone and helps some people? Of course there's other places. But this is a game. People play there. Now they can't. That makes the game less fun. -
1 hour ago, Rudra said:
I RP. And as an RP'er, my response is move somewhere else to do your RP until the event passes. It's only a couple weeks. Unless you RP a bully that tries to intimidate Ms. Liberty into moving out of her chosen lounging spot?
(Edit: First come, first served. And she is already there. Be considerate and grant her her brief time at the spot.)
Edit again: Besides, when you get down to it, she isn't there to converse. She is there looking for supers to do a task for her. Not catch up with a heroine she may or may not personally know.
Edit x3: Also, from an RP perspective, it doesn't make sense to move her to have a conversation with someone else. Do you routinely welcome others walking up to you and disturbing your conversation to pester you for information and a possible job? Or if you are supposed to be someplace recruiting for a specific task, does it help you to spend your time shooting the breeze with someone who has nothing to do with what you need done and won't do the task, only for potential workers to come up and divulge your task in front of that other person who may be opposed to what you are trying to do? Leave her be. She's fine where and as she is.
... The "move her to chat with War Witch" part was just me being silly.
The actual request has nothing to do with her talking to War Witch.
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
3 weeks isn't a brief time in that spot. That's nearly a month.
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1 hour ago, TheZag said:
I like to see more NPCs spread around an area, not all crammed next to each other and a big empty spot elsewhere.
Were trying to RP here and you need to move isnt a reason i can get behind.
Do you RP?
Why can't you get behind moving an NPC somewhere more convenient for everyone? Those big empty spots aren't big empty spots for RPers. They're places we use. -
She's current;y standing all alone looking bored, waiting for people to ask her about the Holiday. Why not move her next to War Witch so they can chat when no one's talking to Jessica?
Also so she's not standing in a spot RPers like to use?
If it's a big, massive, horrible, time consuming drain on resources, could you consider a different spot for her next year?-
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Move Jessica Megan Duncan Over Next to War Witch
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"They're not effecting my RP space. Why should I care about yours?"