Kysmelly69 Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Does anyone have a decent IO’d final build made up? I’ve never been good using mids builder and used to read forums non stop to get a build I enjoyed. But I guess there’s new stuff in the game that wasn’t out when CoH cancelled so now it seems my old build is garbage. Any help would be appreciated. I’m so excited to get back and get in touch with my old gamer friends. Thanks!
Herotu Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 I, too, would appreciate some guidance on this topic. ..It only takes one Beanbag fan saying that they JRANGER it for the devs to revert it.
Jaro Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 Bump :) Playing the Loons together with my GF on Excelsior, mine are usually Cleo's or Jaro's. Global handles: @Jaro @Mistress Cleo @Jaro Loon Anyone know a good doctor to treat Altoholic?
m153ry Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 http://(https://i.imgur.com/IndJRqQ.jpg)[/image] Yes this is dependent on Incarnate powers .. How ever Considering the recharge times of said skills. and that you only need to survive the first few moments of a mob while you get off your opening attack chain.. it works out just fine. You can easily pop a few purps in between cool downs to keep going on a larger spawn farm .
Jaro Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 What do you guys think about this build? No purples in there as that would make it extremly expensive I fear. Any help would be appretiated. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 Click this DataLink to open the build! Fire kin fire: Level 50 Natural Controller Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Char -- GldNet-Acc/Hold(A), GldNet-Rchg/Hold(11), GldNet-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(11), GldNet-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(13), GldNet-Dam%(13) Level 1: Transfusion -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-Heal(3), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(3), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(5), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5) Level 2: Fire Cages -- TraoftheH-Acc/Immob/Rchg(A), TraoftheH-EndRdx/Immob(7), TraoftheH-Acc/EndRdx(7), TraoftheH-Dam%(9), TraoftheH-Immob/Acc(9) Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A) Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27) Level 8: Hot Feet -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(15), Obl-Acc/Rchg(15), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50) Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A) Level 12: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def(25) Level 14: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 16: Flashfire -- Stp-EndRdx/Stun(A), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(17), Stp-Stun/Rng(17), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(40), Stp-Acc/Rchg(43) Level 18: Cinders -- Lck-%Hold(A), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(19), Lck-Acc/Hold(19), UnbCns-Dam%(39), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold(40) Level 20: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(A), AdjTrg-ToHit(21), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(21), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(25), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 22: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A) Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), Ksm-ToHit+(50) Level 26: Kick -- Empty(A) Level 28: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam(39), StdPrt-ResKB(46) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), RedFrt-EndRdx(31), RedFrt-Def(31), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(34), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 32: Fire Imps -- SvrRgh-PetResDam(A), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(33), SvrRgh-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SvrRgh-Acc/EndRdx(33), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SvrRgh-Acc(34) Level 35: Transference -- EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(36), EffAdp-EndMod(37), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(37) Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), Acc-I(39), Acc-I(43) Level 41: Fire Ball -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(42), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(42), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(42), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), PstBls-Dam%(46) Level 44: Fire Shield -- GldArm-ResDam(A), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(45), GldArm-End/Res(45), GldArm-RechRes(45), GldArm-3defTpProc(46) Level 47: Consume -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(48), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50) Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A) Level 50: Reactive Core Interface Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon Level 50: Warworks Core Ally Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany Level 50: Melee Core Genome ------------ ------------ Set Bonus Totals: 18% DamageBuff(Smashing) 18% DamageBuff(Lethal) 18% DamageBuff(Fire) 18% DamageBuff(Cold) 18% DamageBuff(Energy) 18% DamageBuff(Negative) 18% DamageBuff(Toxic) 18% DamageBuff(Psionic) 5.81% Defense(Smashing) 5.81% Defense(Lethal) 3% Defense(Fire) 3% Defense(Cold) 4.25% Defense(Energy) 4.25% Defense(Negative) 3% Defense(Psionic) 6.75% Defense(Melee) 3.63% Defense(Ranged) 3% Defense(AoE) 2.25% Max End 5% Enhancement(Held) 3% Enhancement(Stunned) 45% Enhancement(Accuracy) 5% Enhancement(Immobilized) 52.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime) 4% Enhancement(Heal) 103 HP (10.13%) HitPoints Knockback (Mag -11) Knockup (Mag -11) MezResist(Confused) 58.75% MezResist(Held) 58.75% 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Global handles: @Jaro @Mistress Cleo @Jaro Loon Anyone know a good doctor to treat Altoholic?
Crysis Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Char -- BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(3), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(3), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(7) Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(7), Dct'dW-Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23) Level 2: Fire Cages -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(11), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Posi-Dam%(25), EndRdx-I(46) Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(5), RechRdx-I(5) Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A) Level 8: Hot Feet -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Erad-Dmg(9), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(46), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(50) Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A) Level 12: Flashfire -- SWotController-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SWotController-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(13), SWotController-EndRdx/Rchg(13), SWotController-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(27), SWotController-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SWotController-Rchg/Dmg%(40) Level 14: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15), LkGmblr-Rchg+(15) Level 16: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 18: Cinders -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(21) Level 20: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A) Level 22: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 24: Tough -- GA-3defTpProc(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(25) Level 26: Bonfire -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(34), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), OvForce-Dam/KB(50) Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Rchg+(29) Level 30: Inertial Reduction -- Empty(A) Level 32: Fire Imps -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(37) Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(37) Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39) Level 41: Fissure -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Dam%(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), RechRdx-I(43) Level 44: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45) Level 47: Earth's Embrace -- Panac-Heal/EndRedux(A), Panac-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Panac-Heal/Rchg(48), Panac-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(48), Panac-Heal(50) Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(31) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(31) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Assault Total Radial Graft 1 1
m153ry Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural Controller Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Concealment Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Char -- Empty(A) Level 1: Transfusion -- EnrMnp-Stun%(A), ThfofEss-Heal/Rchg(37), ThfofEss-Heal(37), ThfofEss-Acc/Heal(39), ThfofEss-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(39) Level 2: Fire Cages -- GrvAnc-Hold%(A), GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(3), GrvAnc-Immob(3), GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(5), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(5), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(7) Level 4: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(40), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(40), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(40), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFrt-EndRdx(42) Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(7), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(9), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(9), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(11), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11) Level 8: Kick -- Empty(A) Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A) Level 12: Flashfire -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(13), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(17) Level 14: Tough -- StdPrt-ResKB(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(21), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(23), GldArm-3defTpProc(23) Level 16: Weave -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), RedFrt-Def(17), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(19), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(21) Level 18: Tactics -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(34), GssSynFr--ToHit(34) Level 20: Stealth -- Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(42), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 22: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A) Level 24: Hot Feet -- SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50) Level 26: [Empty] Level 28: Bonfire -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(29), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(31), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(31), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(31) Level 30: Increase Density -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A) Level 32: Fire Imps -- SvrRgh-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SvrRgh-PetResDam(43), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(43), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SvrRgh-Acc(45), SvrRgh-Acc/EndRdx(45) Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(46), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(46), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(46), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 38: Transference -- EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(48), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(50), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(50) Level 41: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A) Level 44: Focused Accuracy -- Empty(A) Level 47: Summon Tarantula -- EdcoftheM-PetDef(A) Level 49: [Empty] Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(27), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(27), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(36), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(36), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EffAdp-EndMod(25), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(25), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(34) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment Level 50: Clarion Radial Epiphany ------------ ------------ Set Bonus Totals: 9.5% DamageBuff(Smashing) 9.5% DamageBuff(Lethal) 9.5% DamageBuff(Fire) 9.5% DamageBuff(Cold) 9.5% DamageBuff(Energy) 9.5% DamageBuff(Negative) 9.5% DamageBuff(Toxic) 9.5% DamageBuff(Psionic) 16.63% Defense(Melee) 5% Defense 11.31% Defense(Smashing) 11.31% Defense(Lethal) 14.75% Defense(Fire) 14.75% Defense(Cold) 12.88% Defense(Energy) 12.88% Defense(Negative) 6% Defense(Psionic) 16% Defense(Ranged) 16% Defense(AoE) 1.8% Max End 11% Enhancement(Heal) 33% Enhancement(Accuracy) 30% Enhancement(RechargeTime) 7.5% SpeedFlying 137.3 HP (13.5%) HitPoints 7.5% JumpHeight 7.5% SpeedJumping Knockback (Mag -4) Knockup (Mag -4) MezResist(Confused) 96.25% MezResist(Held) 96.25% MezResist(Immobilized) 96.25% MezResist(Sleep) 96.25% MezResist(Stunned) 96.25% MezResist(Terrorized) 96.25% 19% (0.32 End/sec) Recovery 72% (3.05 HP/sec) Regeneration 30% ResEffect(SpeedFlying) 30% ResEffect(RechargeTime) 30% ResEffect(SpeedRunning) 33% Resistance(Smashing) 33% Resistance(Lethal) 36% Resistance(Fire) 36% Resistance(Cold) 18.75% Resistance(Energy) 18.75% Resistance(Negative) 30% Resistance(Toxic) 42% Resistance(Psionic) 0% Resistance(Smashing) 0% Resistance(Lethal) 0% Resistance(Fire) 0% Resistance(Cold) 0% Resistance(Energy) 0% Resistance(Negative) 0% Resistance(Toxic) 0% Resistance(Psionic) 7.5% SpeedRunning 1
Kysmelly69 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Posted May 18, 2019 thank you for the help! I really appreciate it
Jaro Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 Same here, thanks all! Playing the Loons together with my GF on Excelsior, mine are usually Cleo's or Jaro's. Global handles: @Jaro @Mistress Cleo @Jaro Loon Anyone know a good doctor to treat Altoholic?
Rylas Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Here's my attempt at soft-capped S/L Defense, perma-hasten and keeping decent enhancement values (especially accuracy for Siphon Speed, Transference and FS). I still have a 2 slots I can place, but haven't noticed any really good spots to put them. Any thoughts on where they could be put to the best use? Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Burnadebt: Level 50 Technology Controller Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Char (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold (5) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (48) Endurance Reduction IO Level 1: Transfusion (A) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (9) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (11) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Healing (11) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance Level 2: Fire Cages (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge (5) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize (7) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance (7) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range (37) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (40) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize Level 4: Siphon Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO (13) Recharge Reduction IO (37) Accuracy IO (46) Recharge Reduction IO (46) Accuracy IO Level 6: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (17) Recharge Reduction IO Level 8: Super Jump (A) Jumping IOLevel 10: Siphon Speed (A) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Slow (13) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Endurance (43) Curtail Speed - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (43) Curtail Speed - Damage/Slow (46) Curtail Speed - Range/Slow Level 12: Flashfire (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge (15) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun (15) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance (17) Stupefy - Stun/Range (34) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge Level 14: Hot Feet (A) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Slow (27) Curtail Speed - Accuracy/Endurance (25) Curtail Speed - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (27) Curtail Speed - Damage/Slow (25) Multi-Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (29) Multi-Strike - Damage/Endurance Level 16: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (23) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 18: Cinders (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (19) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (19) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold (21) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (21) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge Level 20: Speed Boost (A) Endurance Modification IOLevel 22: Boxing (A) Accuracy IOLevel 24: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge SpeedLevel 26: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection (29) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 28: Ring of Fire (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge (40) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize (40) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance (42) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range (42) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (43) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize Level 30: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 32: Fire Imps (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (34) Brilliant Leadership - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 35: Transference (A) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge (36) Performance Shifter - 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rmancu Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 Here is my current cheap Fire/Kin build that I am running (vet level 8 with Tier 3 incarnates right now except for hybrid which is tier 1). S/L is soft-capped but hasten isn't perma which hasn't been a problem for me at all. I can easily farm +4/8 BM. The IOs sets are all level 30 and most of the common IOs are level 40. The overwhelming power IO in bonfire is actually sudden acceleration KB to KD since Pines didn't have that set. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Level 50 Mutation Controller Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Char EssofCrr-Acc/Rchg(A), EssofCrr-EndRdx/Hold(3), EssofCrr-Acc/EndRdx(3), EssofCrr-Hold/Rng(5), EssofCrr-Acc/Hold(5), EssofCrr-Acc/Hold/Rchg(15) Level 1: Transfusion Acc-I(A), Acc-I(7), HrmHln-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), HrmHln-Heal/Rchg(9), HrmHln-Heal(9), HrmHln-Heal/EndRdx(17) Level 2: Fire Cages EnfOpr-Acc/Rchg(A), EnfOpr-Acc/EndRdx(11), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob(11), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(13), EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(13), EnfOpr-Immob/Rng(23) Level 4: Combat Jumping DefBuff-I(A) Level 6: Super Jump Jump-I(A) Level 8: Hot Feet Mlt-Acc/Dmg(A), Mlt-Acc/EndRdx(15), Mlt-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Mlt-Dmg/Rchg(25), Mlt-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mlt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27) Level 10: Siphon Speed Acc-I(A), Acc-I(17) Level 12: Flashfire RopADop-Acc/Rchg(A), RopADop-EndRdx/Stun(19), RopADop-Acc/EndRdx(19), RopADop-Acc/Stun(21), RopADop-Acc/Stun/Rchg(21) Level 14: Acrobatics EndRdx-I(A) Level 16: Increase Density StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A) Level 18: Cinders EssofCrr-Acc/Rchg(A), EssofCrr-Hold/Rng(31), EssofCrr-EndRdx/Hold(40), EssofCrr-Acc/EndRdx(43), EssofCrr-Acc/Hold/Rchg(43), EssofCrr-Acc/Hold(43) Level 20: Speed Boost EndMod-I(A) Level 22: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(50) Level 24: Maneuvers EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(34), DefBuff-I(36) Level 26: Bonfire OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), AirBrs-Dmg/Rchg(27), Dtn-Acc/Dmg(29), Dtn-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Dtn-Dmg/Rchg(40), Dtn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40) Level 28: Tactics EndRdx-I(A), ToHit-I(36), ToHit-I(39), ToHit-I(48) Level 30: Boxing Acc-I(A) Level 32: Fire Imps BldMnd-Acc/Dmg(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx(33), BldMnd-Acc(33), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), BldMnd-Dmg(34) Level 35: Transference EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(37), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(46) Level 38: Fulcrum Shift Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39) Level 41: Scorpion Shield EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(42), DefBuff-I(42), DefBuff-I(42) Level 44: Disruptor Blast Dtn-Acc/Dmg(A), Dtn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dtn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Dtn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), AirBrs-Dmg/Rchg(46) Level 47: Tough EndRdx-I(A), ResDam-I(48), ResDam-I(48) Level 49: Weave EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(50), DefBuff-I(50) Level 1: Brawl Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint Empty(A) Level 2: Rest Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift Run-I(A) Level 2: Health Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(31), Heal-I(46) Level 2: Hurdle Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(31), EndMod-I(37) Level 50: Agility Partial Core Revamp Level 50: Clarion Partial Core Invocation Level 50: Ion Total Core Judgement Level 50: Assault Genome Level 50: Reactive Partial Radial Conversion Level 50: Cimeroran Total Core Improved Ally ------------ ------------ Set Bonus Totals: 8% Defense(Smashing) 8% Defense(Lethal) 7.69% Defense(Fire) 7.69% Defense(Cold) 6.75% Defense(Energy) 6.75% Defense(Negative) 3% Defense(Psionic) 9.25% Defense(Melee) 10.5% Defense(Ranged) 9.56% Defense(AoE) 3.75% Enhancement(RechargeTime) 2% Enhancement(Stunned) 3% Enhancement(Held) 3% Enhancement(Immobilized) 3% Enhancement(Heal) 34.34 HP (3.38%) HitPoints MezResist(Confused) 53.75% MezResist(Held) 53.75% MezResist(Immobilized) 53.75% MezResist(Sleep) 53.75% MezResist(Stunned) 53.75% MezResist(Terrorized) 53.75% 4.5% (0.08 End/sec) Recovery 16% (0.68 HP/sec) Regeneration 12% Resistance(Smashing) 12% Resistance(Lethal) 9.75% Resistance(Fire) 9.75% Resistance(Cold) 7.5% Resistance(Energy) 7.5% Resistance(Negative) 3% Resistance(Toxic) 3% Resistance(Psionic) 1
Crysis Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 There’s two different ways to build a Fire/Kin, and they vary mainly between going for +DEF or +RES. I know of no way to do both. Everyone should focus on +RECH and with the added bonus of Siphon Speed it’s not hard to get to permahasten with these builds. If you go for +DEF, you are going to take Ice, Stone or Mace as your ancillary pool for the +DEF shields. I don’t know the numerical differences between those powers, could be same for all I know. But I do know that that Stone also offers a self-heal (Embrace, which is also +HP) as well as two decent attacks between Fissure and Seismic Smash. Fire obviously offers the benefits of Fireball and while the AOE value of that is very high with a Fulcrum Shift, I don’t know the value of that versus the loss of +DEF for survivability. Personally, I take the +DEF approach. I’m softcapped to S/L for PVE and can easily do +4/x8 BM maps WITH other players (for PL purposes) and handle the 2+ bosses I’ll get per spawn. Solo it’s almost too easy. I don’t know how I compare to a Pyre Mastery player for speed because I seldom see one playing that way. And in all other end game content, my +DEF gives me a huge amount of survivability to non S/L mobs. I’m ~+30% to just about every other positional defense. The build I posted above makes very little use of purples outside of the LOTG’s. I got it from LIVE and have modified it just a little...swapping Boxing slots for Seismic Smash, for example. Same IO’s though. Ultimately, once you get Incarnate Alpha Agility to T4, you have so many options available to you on how to slot these builds cheaply that I wouldn’t spend your influence on tons of purples. You don’t need them on this particular AT. Spend them on other toons.
Rylas Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 There’s two different ways to build a Fire/Kin, and they vary mainly between going for +DEF or +RES. I know of no way to do both. I used to think the same thing until someone sent me a build that achieved soft cap DEF and high levels of RES. Granted, it would be an uber-expensive build, but it is possible. I'll post it here when I get home after work. Request hi-res icons here. Download the Icon Pack here!
Caldazar4 Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 Here's where I've landed on my stupidly expensive fire/kin build. Positional defenses all above 35% and S/L resists capped. Pop clarion or a small purple for soft cap defenses across the board. I know people usually don't like the ATO sets but the positional defenses on the sets are really nice. I haven't done a lot of theorycrafting or discussion so I'm curious what people think. I know there's a giant hole in energy resists, but that's what tankers are for. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural Controller Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Char (A) EmptyLevel 1: Transfusion (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (7) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (9) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (9) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (11) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Fire Cages (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize (3) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge (3) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold (5) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (5) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge (7) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance Level 4: Boxing (A) EmptyLevel 6: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (13) Shield Wall - Defense (13) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (27) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (40) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 8: Hot Feet (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (17) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (17) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (21) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 10: Siphon Speed (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 12: Flashfire (A) Superior Overpowering Presence - RechargeTime/Energy Font (15) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/Endurance/RechargeTime (27) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/Endurance (29) Superior Overpowering Presence - Endurance/RechargeTime (29) Superior Overpowering Presence - Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/RechargeTime (31) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized Level 14: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff (15) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 16: Tough (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)Level 18: Cinders (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized (36) Superior Will of the Controller - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge (37) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage (37) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge (37) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance (39) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge Level 20: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (21) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (39) Red Fortune - Defense (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (40) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 22: Increase Density (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%Level 24: Speed Boost (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) (34) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance (36) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range Level 26: Bonfire (A) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage (33) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge (42) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown Level 28: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 30: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (34) Recharge Reduction IO Level 32: Fire Imps (A) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage (36) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus (40) Sovereign Right - Accuracy (45) Sovereign Right - Damage/Endurance (45) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Endurance (46) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Level 35: Transference (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge (46) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy Level 38: Indomitable Will (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 41: Mind Over Body (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (43) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (50) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 44: Psionic Tornado (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (48) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (48) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (50) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize Level 47: Fulcrum Shift (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 49: Siphon Power (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) EmptyLevel 1: Sprint (A) EmptyLevel 2: Rest (A) EmptyLevel 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) EmptyLevel 2: Health (A) Miracle - +RecoveryLevel 2: Hurdle (A) EmptyLevel 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (31) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge Level 50: Agility Radial Boost Level 50: Control Genome Level 50: Clarion Radial Epiphany Level 50: Ion Partial Core Judgement Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface ------------ 1
Caldazar4 Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) whoops Edited November 14, 2019 by Caldazar4
GamerGuySteve Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Here is a variant I worked up, based on the one posted by Jaro The main difference is that I moved the second slot from Combat Jumping over to Super Speed and placed two Celerity Set IOs (Run Speed and Stealth) in. In addition to adding the stealth, the combination of the two adds additional resistances for Lethal and Smashing as well as Mez Resistances. Feedback welcome and appreciated. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Haelfire: Level 50 Natural ControllerPrimary Power Set: Fire ControlSecondary Power Set: KineticsPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Fire Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Char -- GldNet-Acc/Hold(A), GldNet-Rchg/Hold(11), GldNet-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(11), GldNet-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(13), GldNet-Dam%(13)Level 1: Transfusion -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-Heal(3), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(3), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(5), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5)Level 2: Fire Cages -- TraoftheH-Acc/Immob/Rchg(A), TraoftheH-EndRdx/Immob(7), TraoftheH-Acc/EndRdx(7), TraoftheH-Dam%(9), TraoftheH-Immob/Acc(9)Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A)Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)Level 8: Hot Feet -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(15), Obl-Acc/Rchg(17), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A)Level 12: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(23), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), LucoftheG-Def(25)Level 14: Super Speed -- Clr-RunSpd(A), Clr-Stlth(15)Level 16: Flashfire -- Stp-EndRdx/Stun(A), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(17), Stp-Stun/Rng(19), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(40), Stp-Acc/Rchg(45)Level 18: Cinders -- Lck-%Hold(A), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(19), Lck-Acc/Hold(21), UnbCns-Dam%(39), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold(40)Level 20: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(A), AdjTrg-ToHit(21), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(23), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(42)Level 22: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A)Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A)Level 26: Kick -- Dmg-I(A)Level 28: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), RctArm-ResDam(40), StdPrt-ResKB(48)Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-EndRdx(31), RedFrt-Def(31), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(33), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(36), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 32: Fire Imps -- SvrRgh-PetResDam(A), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(33), SvrRgh-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SvrRgh-Acc/EndRdx(34), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SvrRgh-Acc(34)Level 35: Transference -- EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(37), EffAdp-EndMod(37), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(39)Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), Acc-I(39), Acc-I(43)Level 41: Fire Ball -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(42), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(42), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(43), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), PstBls-Dam%(46)Level 44: Fire Shield -- GldArm-ResDam(A), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(45), GldArm-End/Res(45), GldArm-RechRes(46), GldArm-3defTpProc(46)Level 47: Consume -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(48), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A)Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1477;659;1318;HEX;| |78DA6594596F125114C7EFC020652B4CE94269814217E8C6A27DD79416BBD0DAC40| |F60483B2D931020034DF449ABD1A8A9DB935BE216F5D117D72FA5D6A50FAE7898FF| |A19DC84DC86FEEFF9EED9E39C3CAD939F7AB933BC785E4CB960AB5DA996CA55CD72| |BA592AADB570BF56DBD5012B43A160A6A6953D3553B6D2287362DF3648ECE5A9B80| |E97C767B7333B9AC95D5BAB65E5316CB455557CBF564EBC1B95621E7D35555DDF01| |A8F79B5B0A1EAB5A25675B7F655ADBCE53136396DAB58A79D325FD5D69172A550AB| |ABFAB90095354ABFCB92E0D590C509AB10195938679959D03DC79C07E7CD3ECB92A| |1594E31F3A0BCC25C05AF1024F6911E403B7297790FEC78C8BC0FE60856C3AB21AC| |41616831EAA70D7124DB24B420F32A99DA39875DA0D6CE5F1683BEDFE0E05F30D30| |017C8C7C1391C9C43A1202EC4B1BA7CA8A55701037E6637384CB61E09F5783A10B3| |D3015E23DDCBF5782FC0DEB703765D04E397C0A9F3E07582C23ECA4FC4E9FA0176E| |F83638B607C01F4530D7EF6F13F63DB4760EF6330F8041C7F0A2E519E1EF8889E21| |DCBB97E2F4B1D6C7F7B690D6CF5A7F087656D206706779204A0F71EA6B040C87C17| |80C4C0588219A03F209C1C716EA41ECB097D9090E39B9A72E70C403EE1222A8C116| |D9470D437BCC2F60F42BF31BF33BD81CC718FBC66EE2EEC3B79837C0913BCC5DEEE| |F6DB039C2A3980DCB28CFD818CFC804F3398D5982E3275E431B7FC37CCBB6EF98EF| |C1E90FE00BF29DE43E4EA630AF536966069C9E611E055F1292A8494EF26CA778B65| |37F78B6FF9BF12EEA7D9ADF613A8ADC83F2C1374C2F065AE8506B4C98CF1BB444BA| |4DC9989569C438D66635D3A6E4DB9435F9E0DF4148DC6987AFF9F5A39A8F4E3A97F| |89C337D366B23D03E99B504B43DB3C693FE0F5D98D9A9| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited November 12, 2019 by GamerGuySteve Clarified what I changed from the original build posted 1
WillParkinson Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 On 5/29/2019 at 9:01 AM, Rylas said: I used to think the same thing until someone sent me a build that achieved soft cap DEF and high levels of RES. Granted, it would be an uber-expensive build, but it is possible. I'll post it here when I get home after work. Wow. Almost a year later and you're still at work? 😉 4
Rylas Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 10:08 AM, WillParkinson said: Wow. Almost a year later and you're still at work? 😉 Oy. Woops. So I did some digging and can't find anything. I could have been completely wrong. 😞 2 Request hi-res icons here. Download the Icon Pack here!
Hjarki Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 11:08 AM, WillParkinson said: Wow. Almost a year later and you're still at work? 😉 This is my basic Fire/Kin build: Spoiler Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Sorcery Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Char (A) Superior Entomb - Hold/Recharge: Level 50 (3) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (3) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold: Level 50 (5) Superior Entomb - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (5) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance: Level 50 (7) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb: Level 50 Level 1: Transfusion (A) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage: Level 50 (7) Touch of the Nictus - Healing/Absorb: Level 50 (9) Touch of the Nictus - Healing/Absorb/Recharge: Level 50 Level 2: Fire Cages (A) Superior Overpowering Presence - RechargeTime/Energy Font: Level 50 (9) Superior Overpowering Presence - Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/RechargeTime: Level 50 (11) Superior Overpowering Presence - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (11) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/Endurance: Level 50 (13) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50 (13) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized: Level 50 Level 4: Siphon Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50Level 6: Kick (A) EmptyLevel 8: Hot Feet (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown: Level 50 (17) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (19) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (21) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (21) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 Level 10: Siphon Speed (A) Slow IO: Level 50 (23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 (23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 Level 12: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 (25) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 Level 14: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50 (25) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All): Level 50 (27) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance: Level 50 (27) Shield Wall - Defense: Level 50 Level 16: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30 (29) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50 (29) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist: Level 50 (31) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance: Level 50 Level 18: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50 (31) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage: Level 50 (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50 (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50 (33) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30 (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 Level 20: Arcane Bolt (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50 (34) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime: Level 50 (34) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (34) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge: Level 50 Level 22: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50 (36) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 50 (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 50 Level 24: Speed Boost (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50Level 26: Bonfire (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50 (37) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (37) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (39) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50 (39) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (39) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown: Level 50 Level 28: Inertial Reduction (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50 (50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 50 Level 30: Mystic Flight (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50Level 32: Fire Imps (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 (42) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up: Level 50 Level 35: Transference (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50Level 38: Fulcrum Shift (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 (42) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50 Level 41: Fissure (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize: Level 50 (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50 (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 Level 44: Seismic Smash (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold: Level 50 (45) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50 (45) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50 (46) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (46) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50 (46) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50 Level 47: Rock Armor (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50 Level 49: Rune of Protection (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40 (50) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40 (50) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40 Level 2: Health (A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40 (15) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50 (15) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance: Level 50 Level 2: Hurdle (A) EmptyLevel 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50 (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50 Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon ------------ The main variations would be the choice of Epic/Patron pool. The above has an Energy/Neg hole, but better offense. The Ice version would have the same Energy/Neg hole, but be better for fire farming. The Mace version closes the Energy hole, but comes at the expense of having to mule sub-standard attacks. The basic premise is that Kinetics permits you to avoid efficient slotting and just pursue set bonuses (in this case, all those Winter sets for typed defenses). Because it provides you with large amounts of +damage and +recharge, you don't need to worry about things like wasting your single target Hold on Entomb. In the above build, Sorcery is used for status protection/resist (intermittently). The basic resists aren't great, but aren't terrible. 1
megaoozaru Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 On 5/16/2019 at 9:12 PM, Crysis said: Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Kinetics Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Char -- BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(3), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(3), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(7) Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(7), Dct'dW-Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23) Level 2: Fire Cages -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(11), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Posi-Dam%(25), EndRdx-I(46) Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(5), RechRdx-I(5) Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A) Level 8: Hot Feet -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Erad-Dmg(9), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(46), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(50) Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A) Level 12: Flashfire -- SWotController-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SWotController-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(13), SWotController-EndRdx/Rchg(13), SWotController-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(27), SWotController-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SWotController-Rchg/Dmg%(40) Level 14: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15), LkGmblr-Rchg+(15) Level 16: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 18: Cinders -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(21) Level 20: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A) Level 22: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 24: Tough -- GA-3defTpProc(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(25) Level 26: Bonfire -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(34), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), OvForce-Dam/KB(50) Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Rchg+(29) Level 30: Inertial Reduction -- Empty(A) Level 32: Fire Imps -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(37) Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(37) Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39) Level 41: Fissure -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Dam%(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), RechRdx-I(43) Level 44: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45) Level 47: Earth's Embrace -- Panac-Heal/EndRedux(A), Panac-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Panac-Heal/Rchg(48), Panac-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(48), Panac-Heal(50) Level 49: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(31) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(31) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Assault Total Radial Graft I know this thread is from 2019 but it's the first thing that comes up when looking for a fire/kin build but I still want to ask: is not taking Siphon Power still okay for low level (exemplared) content?
Crysis Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, megaoozaru said: I know this thread is from 2019 but it's the first thing that comes up when looking for a fire/kin build but I still want to ask: is not taking Siphon Power still okay for low level (exemplared) content? Blast from past. I tend to respec my toons at around 38 (Epic/Patron Pool choices) and then again somewhere after 50 once I open up my Incarnates. So sure, you can skip it if you'd like because you are going to level fairly fast to get Fulcrum Shift anyways. But it is semi-useful against EB's and AV's also in mid-levels. I find it utterly useless by your 40's or so, especially with fast-moving teams and players with higher-level control/hold powers are generally debuffing the snot out of stuff by then. But as always, season to taste. But personally...its never in my 40+ builds for any Kinetics toon, regardless of AT, unless I literally just need a free power pick (eg; absolutely nothing else available is useful to you). 1
SwitchFade Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 9:57 AM, megaoozaru said: I know this thread is from 2019 but it's the first thing that comes up when looking for a fire/kin build but I still want to ask: is not taking Siphon Power still okay for low level (exemplared) content? I minmax and my fire/kin is no exception. Having siphon power is essential for exemp play below 20, even with the new changes. It's also good vs one hard target at high level. A very solid maxed build won't need things like inertial reduction or repel, so there's no real reason to skip siphon power if you plan to exemp. If you play at 50 always, basically not used. On low y teams, transformative. 1 1
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