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And that means Star Wars: The Bad Batch, aka The Continuing Saga of the Clone Wars, is set to appear!

 

I'm mightily stoked!  More so knowing the Ming-Na Wen (Mulan, Agents of SHIELD, The Mandalorian) will be part of the cast. 

Dee Bradley Baker is going to do a phenomenal job with the roles, I'm sure.

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Just saw the first episode of The Bad Batch, and it did not disappoint!  Graphics are improved yet again, this time over season 7 of the Clone Wars. 

 

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  On 5/5/2021 at 1:02 PM, Mr. Vee said:

One a week. First was good but rather long for animated, not sure how long future eps will be.

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What Vee said. 😉

 

I think I heard successive episodes will be 1/2 hour each, though perhaps the series/season finale will be longer.  The next one will drop this Friday.  They did the hour-long one for Star Wars Day, otherwise it probably would have dropped last Friday.

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Episode 2 is out and it was good to see the return of a favorite SW monster of mine, as well as the return of ____________ .

 

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  On 5/8/2021 at 2:08 AM, Mr. Vee said:

I thought the second ep was a huge fall-off from the first, but then I think kids ruin everything.

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(Skywalker's kid, Skywalker's grandkid, Palpatine's grandkid...the man has some experience with this point.)

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Episode 3 is out and it's like a yin yang relationship:  really wholesome and uplifting paired with some of the darkest stuff in animated Star Wars.

 

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  On 5/19/2021 at 11:18 PM, Haijinx said:

I wonder if Omega will be aging at an accelerated rate.   Since the other clones (save Boba) did. 

 

 

 

 

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It's an interesting thought.  She looks, what, ten now?  I get the opinion she was created much like Boba: no inhibitor chip, no accelerated aging.   I guess it would depend on why she was created, which is probably the biggest mystery for the season. 

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  On 5/23/2021 at 3:58 AM, Techwright said:

It's an interesting thought.  She looks, what, ten now?  I get the opinion she was created much like Boba: no inhibitor chip, no accelerated aging.   I guess it would depend on why she was created, which is probably the biggest mystery for the season. 

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I don't get that that all.  I think she was pretty much the same as "The Bad Batch"  She is a deviation.  And her being a female was unintentional.    

 

She has never had a room, implying she isn't really that old. 

Somehow the bad batch clones, who were actually among those barracked on Kamino never saw her.  Even though it was implied they have been wounded before (often) 

The Kamino were hopeful she would be a success in that they let her go, yeah, but she really isn't their hoped for solution.  They are looking for earlier more Jango material.

 

Is it possible that Omega refers to her being from the last batch up to this point, and that they haven't had any viable subsequent batches since they had been degrading, and is thus a fairly recent clone.   

 

Giving her normal human development time makes her more "special" I guess.  But to what end?  It would take longer to get results.  

 

I suppose we will see.  I guess it depends on if they want to do the entire show with her approximately 9 years old (my guess on her current age), or with every season her noticeably older.   Being a teenager by say Season 3. 

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  On 5/23/2021 at 11:05 AM, Haijinx said:

 

I don't get that that all.  I think she was pretty much the same as "The Bad Batch"  She is a deviation.  And her being a female was unintentional.    

 

She has never had a room, implying she isn't really that old. 

Somehow the bad batch clones, who were actually among those barracked on Kamino never saw her.  Even though it was implied they have been wounded before (often) 

The Kamino were hopeful she would be a success in that they let her go, yeah, but she really isn't their hoped for solution.  They are looking for earlier more Jango material.

 

Is it possible that Omega refers to her being from the last batch up to this point, and that they haven't had any viable subsequent batches since they had been degrading, and is thus a fairly recent clone.   

 

Giving her normal human development time makes her more "special" I guess.  But to what end?  It would take longer to get results.  

 

I suppose we will see.  I guess it depends on if they want to do the entire show with her approximately 9 years old (my guess on her current age), or with every season her noticeably older.   Being a teenager by say Season 3. 

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It seems strange that her XX chromosomes would be the unintentional deviation, but admittedly it is the only possibility with what we've been offered so far.  I've gotten the vibe that something(s) about Omega was/were a deliberate manipulation by Nala Se, and her gender might have been one point, though I'm at a loss, admittedly, to explain why.

 

As to the "never had a room", I've perceived that as she's never had a room of her own, implying that she's been treated as an experiment, on a cot in a lab somewhere with Kaminoan scientists always observing her, or probably always somewhere near Nala Se, who appears to have a special connection to Omega, though that may be as scientist and favorite lab animal.

 

I agree that her name "Omega" implies she's the last functioning clone, though Nala Se's comment that the Fett DNA "continues to degrade" seems to imply that they're getting more failed cloning attempts, but still getting viable Regs.   Alternatively, I've considered the possibility  that "Omega" implies an ultimate effort, possibly an ultimate success in creating a super soldier.

 

As to her age,  this is a long shot theory, I admit, but if Omega is 9 or 10 with a natural aging process, she'd be around 38 years old in the era of both the Mandalorian and the upcoming Book of Boba Fett.  38 being the age of her voice actress, Michelle Ang. (10 years old plus: 19 year gap between Prequel and Original Trilogies, 4 years for Original Trilogy, 5 year gap until The Mandalorian)  That could lead to a live appearance of Omega by Ang in some future work (admittedly with a hair dye, and possible some makeup effects), similarly to how Katee Sackhoff portrayed Bo-Katan both in voice work and live action.    Of course, this means checking off a number of unknown factors at the moment:  natural aging, survival, location in the galaxy (assuming she's not moved off to some uncharted area as a survival tactic), etc.

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  On 5/23/2021 at 1:44 PM, Techwright said:

 

It seems strange that her XX chromosomes would be the unintentional deviation, but admittedly it is the only possibility with what we've been offered so far.  I've gotten the vibe that something(s) about Omega was/were a deliberate manipulation by Nala Se, and her gender might have been one point, though I'm at a loss, admittedly, to explain why.

 

As to the "never had a room", I've perceived that as she's never had a room of her own, implying that she's been treated as an experiment, on a cot in a lab somewhere with Kaminoan scientists always observing her, or probably always somewhere near Nala Se, who appears to have a special connection to Omega, though that may be as scientist and favorite lab animal.

 

I agree that her name "Omega" implies she's the last functioning clone, though Nala Se's comment that the Fett DNA "continues to degrade" seems to imply that they're getting more failed cloning attempts, but still getting viable Regs.   Alternatively, I've considered the possibility  that "Omega" implies an ultimate effort, possibly an ultimate success in creating a super soldier.

 

As to her age,  this is a long shot theory, I admit, but if Omega is 9 or 10 with a natural aging process, she'd be around 38 years old in the era of both the Mandalorian and the upcoming Book of Boba Fett.  38 being the age of her voice actress, Michelle Ang. (10 years old plus: 19 year gap between Prequel and Original Trilogies, 4 years for Original Trilogy, 5 year gap until The Mandalorian)  That could lead to a live appearance of Omega by Ang in some future work (admittedly with a hair dye, and possible some makeup effects), similarly to how Katee Sackhoff portrayed Bo-Katan both in voice work and live action.    Of course, this means checking off a number of unknown factors at the moment:  natural aging, survival, location in the galaxy (assuming she's not moved off to some uncharted area as a survival tactic), etc.

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The XX thing to make a Distaff clone is already an established trope in SCI FI.  Most famous probably being X23 the distaff clone of Wolverine due to "Damage to the Y chromosome, so we copied the X" And I don't think Marvel originated the idea.  Kind of depends on if these deviations are as unintentional as it seems on the surface.  And perhaps since they never saw her as a viable combat unit they didn't bother with the inhibiter implant.  

 

Does her not having accelerate age not also make her roughly the same age as Boba?  Or at least within a few years of Boba  Seems a weird thing for a clone named "Omega", since presumably they kept making clones during the war as long as they could.  But her age would make her a middle pack clone at the youngest? 

 

I'm not sure we know that Regs are viable now, that convo made me wonder if they are not.  Plus we don't see any kid clones ala Attack of the Clones. (Other than Omega)  The degradation is presumably due to the number of clones they needed to create.  Which still seems a ridiculously low number, But Sci Fi writes have no sense of scale. 

 

Not sure they need to worry about the Madalorian here though.  Also we don't know how fast the clones age after reaching adulthood exactly.  We just know some early war clones have gray beards and hair by the time of Rebels.    There are is a lot of Story Potential related to a rapidly aging tween-teen girl being raised by the equivalent of a bunch of space bachelors.  That and as she got older it might make her more useful to their mercenary affiliated rebel type life who knows.  

 

Cartoons (like comics) do seem to get away with the insanely irresponsible caretaking of children by exposing them to combat situations and the like, so I guess the non aging version is possible as well.   

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So, the Batch are back. Not much to speculate wildly about in this teaser, but that's not gonna stop us from trying.

Omega looks slightly older: Palpatine tightening his grasp on the Empire: quite action-heavy.

Getting a slight "A-Team... in Space" vibe, but maybe that was the idea all along. Thoughts?

WAKE UP YA MISCREANTS AND... HEY, GET YOUR OWN DAMN SIGNATURE.

Look out for me being generally cool, stylish and funny (delete as applicable) on Excelsior.

 

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I'm happy to see that Omega finally gets some new duds.  As cool as their custom clone trooper armor is, I don't understand why they haven't altered or ditched it by this point;  You'd think a squad of guys walking around in clone trooper armor would stick out like a sore thumb.

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  On 5/31/2022 at 3:56 PM, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Getting a slight "A-Team... in Space" vibe, but maybe that was the idea all along. Thoughts?

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In 19 BBY, a crack commando unit was forced to exile during a military coup for the crime of not committing to Order 66. These men promptly escaped from the field of battle to the underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire... The Bad Batch.

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I'm going to assume if you continue to read this, you saw the trailer. There will be spoilers ahead.

 

  On 5/31/2022 at 4:28 PM, biostem said:

I'm happy to see that Omega finally gets some new duds.  As cool as their custom clone trooper armor is, I don't understand why they haven't altered or ditched it by this point;  You'd think a squad of guys walking around in clone trooper armor would stick out like a sore thumb.

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SW lore has repeatedly stated and shown that clone trooper armor is vastly superior to other armor, Mandalorian armor being a notable exception. Yes, it does stand out a bit, but at least at the end of season one, not so much.  There's still tens of thousands of clone troopers around, and many of them, even retired still wear their armor.  For some, it's all they've got (See a recently dropped SW episode for confirmation.) It shouldn't be too much of a standout, unless they're going into a ballroom or something similar.

 

1.  Kid Wookie with the custom wood-handled light saber is back!  So he survived...for now.  He was in Clone Wars, the same episode in which David Tennant voiced an ancient droid.

2. I'm wondering who is voicing Palpatine this season?  Several have.  Ian McDiarmid is the natural of course, but even Sam Witwer does a good Sidious.

3. The sound quality is drastically improved.  First season, for example, sounded like Rhea Perlman was recording her lines in her basement, which might have been true due to COVID shutdown. 

4. Omega is in the same room as Palpatine. Did the Batch get sent in to deal with some of the elites close to Sidious?

5. In the shot before the emperor, Omega seems to be hunted in Imperial chambers by droids that look different than Separatist droids, These look closer in design to the L3-37 droid that was Lando's navigator in Solo: A Star Wars Story.

6. I like the new orange/yellow/umber/aqua paint choices on the armor.  Gives them less of a military feel and more of a band of mercenaries feel.

7. The TK trooper design might just be the best looking Stormtrooper armor. (Okay, I know TK's are the proto-Stormtroopers, but still...)

8. At 0:44 - clone trooper in armor trimmed in gray: a member of the Wolfpack?  If so, they've removed the heavy stylization of their armor, which would be in keeping with the Empire shredding every vestige of individuality from the clones.

 

If the pattern of Star Wars animated shows continues, first season is the "kiddie season".  Second season will be a little darker and more serious.  This darkening will continue with progressive seasons should there be any.  I suspect there won't be a death among the team this season, but a character or two within their orbit might be a possibility.  The Trandoshan Cid might be a good possibility, as this would severe an anchor in the Batch's life, forcing them into more run-and-gun living.  I do suspect there might be changes to the team, though.  I keep wondering, for example, why Tech doesn't build a cybernetic hand for Echo, one to go over his interface limb when not in use.  Season 2 might be where Alpha (Boba) and Omega meet, as fans have speculated.

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Just found this bit.  Dee Bradley Baker impressing by swapping voices between all his characters while reading a bit from the last season.  (The recent The Bad Batch panel)

 

 

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So the first 3 episodes of Season 2 have now dropped, and The Bad Batch writing has really stepped up.  Episodes 1 and 2 were noticeably better than much of 1st season, and then 3 which dropped today, is just dark, really dark for this series and masterfully created.  It has a minimum of dialog, telling the tale mostly through visuals and action, one of the best ways to tell a tale on film, IMHO.  It brings back a fan favorite from The Clone Wars and Episode 2, and has a passing but important reference to an important Separatist character from The Clone Wars.  The overall result was like savoring a bit of fine, dark chocolate.

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Side note:  just learned that Tawni Ames (season 2, ep. 3) is voiced by Tasia Valenza, who also voiced Jedi Master Shaak Ti in several episodes of the animated Clone Wars.  She's done several other Star Wars related voices across various media,  I knew her voice sounded familiar.

 

Also just learned (and why didn't I know this sooner?) that Admiral Rampart, the overarching villain of this series, is voiced by Noshir Dalal, who gave, IMHO, an excellent nuanced performance as Kotallo in the game Horizon: Forbidden West.

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Wow even by cartoon standards that was a ridiculously pointless filler episode. Unless they think people wanted to see a palette swapped version of phantom menace? Maybe later in the season they can reskin the Chocobo races from Canto Bight.

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  On 1/19/2023 at 6:49 PM, Mr. Vee said:

Wow even by cartoon standards that was a ridiculously pointless filler episode. Unless they think people wanted to see a palette swapped version of phantom menace? Maybe later in the season they can reskin the Chocobo races from Canto Bight.

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I agree that it was filler, but I did like that Tek (Tech?) got a day in the limelight.  I do wish it was a bit better developed, though...

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  On 1/25/2023 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Vee said:

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I've seen some of the early reviewers suggest that.  It might make for an interesting side story, we'll see.

 

I hate to say it, but even as a dedicated fan of all things Fett-clone, I have to say this felt like a pointless filler episode.  Some of the dialog was noticeably sub-par, especially when compared to the first three episodes of the season.  I hope they're more careful going forward.  If they don't return to the standard those first three set, they'll likely lose previously-consistent viewers.

That said, I can see some long-term redemption via a few points:

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