Poison/elec

[professoronblow]

Hey all,

 

First, thanks to everyone who contributes. There is so much great information here!

 

I have a poison/rad who I’m very happy with, and looking to try a poison/elec. 

 

my thoughts were to have a procced out poison trap and mu. Would use adept (summons) and voltaic for damage. 
 

a couple of questions arose for me. 
1) does anyone have a build that works for this power set combo?

2) will poison -res help with sapping/increase magnitude?

3) are the animation times for elec just too long to be workable in fast moving groups?  Short circuit is 3 seconds ouch

4) is damage really lackluster?

 

thanks for any help!

[JayboH]

2: no, but Poison Trap will help with the drain

3: I don't think so, but the nuke does seem to take a bit, then again I tend to skip short circuit

 

[Ankhammon]

Damage is fine, but keeping sparky on a short leash may be your biggest problem. That guys loved to get you into trouble.

[Gentoo]

Is this the best power combo for sapping as a defender?

[bigfashizzel]

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Poison Trap will help with the drain

 

Having personally tested this on live, no it surprisingly does not.

 

here are the two possible power effects in City of Data

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=villain_pets.poison_poison_gas.poison_trap&at=minion_pets

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=villain_pets.poison_poison_gas.initial_poison_gas&at=minion_pets

 

You'll notice there's a 1.5% chance of -10% end and a 1.5% chance of -2.25 end.

There's also a 100% chance of -100% recovery... but for what duration?  Turns out it's less than a full second.

That's why the effect tooltip says: "The Poison Trap is making you tired and choking. The gas has drained some of your Endurance and you feel nauseous."

That's it.

 

I was so disappointed because the tooltip makes it seem like that -100% recovery is a persistent effect.  Sadly, it is not.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2021 by bigfashizzel
grammar

[Ankhammon]

Thx for posting this. I never read it as being chance of end drain and yeah, that makes a big change in how it works with /elec.

[TygerDarkstorm]

21 hours ago, Gentoo said:

Is this the best power combo for sapping as a defender?

I would imagine that an ElecAff/Elec defender would be a better sapping defender.

[bigfashizzel]

As far as I can tell, Thermal Radiation / Electric Blast is the strongest sapping combo due to Heat Exhaustion.

That aside, a sentinel will, ironically, do a better job most of the time simply due to Thunderous Blast.

[Thrax]

Little Necro here, but anyone have a build for this handy they are using?

[Meknomancer]

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

POISON ELEC MACE: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Poison
Secondary Power Set: Electrical Blast
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
------------
Level 1:    Envenom                AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(7)
Level 1:    Charged Bolts            SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), GldJvl-Dam%(48)
Level 2:    Weaken                CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(45), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(45), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), CldSns-%Dam(46)
Level 4:    Lightning Bolt            Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apc-Dmg(43), GldJvl-Dam%(43)
Level 6:    Ball Lightning            SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(9), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(9), PstBls-Dam%(37), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(40)
Level 8:    Kick                Empty(A)
Level 10:    Short Circuit            PwrTrns-+Heal(A), Arm-Dam%(11), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg(34)
Level 12:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 14:    Tough                UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), UnbGrd-ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17)
Level 16:    Charge Up            GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 18:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(19), ShlWal-Def(19), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(25)
Level 20:    Zapp                StnoftheM-Dam%(A), StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(21), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(21), StnoftheM-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(23), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), GldJvl-Dam%(50)
Level 22:    Tactics                HO:Cyto(A)
Level 24:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26:    Poison Trap            FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(27), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(27), GldNet-Dam%(29), Erd-%Dam(31)
Level 28:    Super Speed            BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(29)
Level 30:    Elixir of Life            StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 32:    Venomous Gas            AchHee-ResDeb%(A), HO:Enzym(33), HO:Enzym(33)
Level 35:    Voltaic Sentinel        ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(37)
Level 38:    Thunderous Blast        SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), PstBls-Dam%(39), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(40), JvlVll-Dam%(40)
Level 41:    Scorpion Shield            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(42), Rct-Def(42), Rct-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 44:    Antidote            GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 47:    Vengeance            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49:    Combat Jumping            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(50)
Level 1:    Vigilance    
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Health                Prv-Absorb%(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(3), Mrc-Rcvry+(3), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5)
Level 1:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(5)
Level 49:    Quick Form    
Level 28:    Speed Phase    
Level 1:    Shocked    
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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

POISON ELEC MU: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Poison
Secondary Power Set: Electrical Blast
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
------------
Level 1:    Envenom                AchHee-ResDeb%(A), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(31)
Level 1:    Charged Bolts            SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 2:    Weaken                CldSns-ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(5), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(7), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(7), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), CldSns-%Dam(9)
Level 4:    Lightning Bolt            Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Apc-Acc/Rchg(11), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Apc-Dmg(13)
Level 6:    Ball Lightning            SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(15), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(17), PstBls-Dam%(17), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(19)
Level 8:    Super Speed            BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 10:    Short Circuit            PwrTrns-+Heal(A), Arm-Dam%(23), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Arm-Acc/Rchg(40), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Arm-Dmg(50)
Level 12:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 14:    Boxing                Empty(A)
Level 16:    Charge Up            GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 18:    Tough                GldArm-3defTpProc(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(46), UnbGrd-ResDam(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 20:    Zapp                StnoftheM-Dam%(A), StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(43), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(45), StnoftheM-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(45), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(45), GldJvl-Dam%(46)
Level 22:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(37), Rct-Def(40), Rct-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 24:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), ShlWal-Def(25), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 26:    Poison Trap            UnbCns-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(27), Erd-%Dam(27), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(33), GldNet-Dam%(34)
Level 28:    Tesla Cage            SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(29), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(29), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31)
Level 30:    Tactics                HO:Cyto(A)
Level 32:    Venomous Gas            AchHee-ResDeb%(A), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb(33), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(33)
Level 35:    Voltaic Sentinel        ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(37)
Level 38:    Thunderous Blast        SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), PstBls-Dam%(39)
Level 41:    Charged Armor            StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(42), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), UnbGrd-ResDam(42), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(43)
Level 44:    Power Sink            EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(A)
Level 47:    Combat Jumping            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(48)
Level 49:    Conserve Power            RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1:    Vigilance    
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Health                Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(19), Prv-Absorb%(21), Mrc-Rcvry+(21)
Level 1:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(23)
Level 49:    Quick Form    
Level 8:    Speed Phase    
Level 1:    Shocked    
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[Meknomancer]

I tried running with the second originally, it was ok but mace made things so much simpler, better dps, more stuff for the team. Took vigor for alpha the endurance was horrible on both and even power sink wasn't saving my original build. Its still not as good as a water/poison corr or as effective a debuffer as my poison/beam fender but its a lot of fun, but then elec blast is fun on any AT.

[Thrax]

Thanks, that first one does look good, thanks.