Build Request: Inv/Dark after revisions

[JayboH]

Does anyone have a Invul/Dark build laying around that takes advantage of Dark's changes, incorporating Touch of Fear's new AOE damage and such?  Anyone want to take a stab at it?  Sounds like a fun project but I've had no luck finding anything yet.  Appreciated!

[PLVRIZR]

No ToF (only secondary I didn't take), but you can use this as an unkillable template:

 

 

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1460&c=728&a=1456&f=HEX&dc=78DA5593494F535114C7EF6B5F292D05C40A652CB4944EC0A318170E31D1D8A2C810428D5B7CCA031A9AD2B485D0BD386CDDB871C0A51FC08D6EFD040E01940FE0849AA80C467D9EBEFFB9019AB4BFDEFFB9E7FCCFB9EFBEB1E5A4676666E89C503C17B27AB1387545CFCD1B05E7B85E5A2CE859411F6FF2FCE4C8782A9D9E4C0D5F1C4F772D9DD0124ED2FDD83A9534668C5CD1D086734B8BD99C51D0AF67B29952D9C7E131236B185A522FCCE3AFF04C2C2C64B55143CF6772B3B5D66228333B57A255BD0C4D1B85E25C26EFB6D6E9BC614C7B53F9CC0D2D45F567CB53637AB16414CACDD44588BEAF5CF4A3547A15A643FCB40B31A80ADB2FE636A8EE804776C1A618654454B16D255BD9A61023840E55BC76494D98AAC21555AE58C515ABB8622B577C434976AEE4B07F8058FD91F909747F667E013D5BE05B4A76C8191CECD8CC8E7E76F4B363173BB6F20C3B94ECC40998AAF33D829177E0C006185FE70358035FC484704947173B7AD8B18E1DEBD8B1991D037BE02E39D6F0AC6ACD499B251E3DC53C0D1E3BC33C0BFAE8DAD40A388ADA4D88BFA9523DF7EEA8BFAB62C03BCCDB60E016D8B702F6DF04D729B941B1FA30ED0D8D8A2576D781213738F8144E7BB4D92B9FB4B708718DC446F9A41BF914BAF914BAF914DAF914E2F2EED0203E4E527C6CDBFE03C10DAAD8C2415B0B0703DC53987BFA439BDA14C5694DDDF600D3841F82FE4760E431185BE5A99F80364AEB908374AC60103B899DD2B6F3387A0955BAA4FB1CE28BF2976C838A70589B824B02E5CBCC65F01F6DEAE1C764EF09A37C380246A2605F0C54C9362A6DA33CED004F9BE0691B6853AF3CE45EDED43F841EFB86F99E5E02B5113048499ABC2D5A6FA5379758A558428A890037AEEEBFFF66BB2AE4C7ACAC4D538C1E92AAD0F8842A734854DA5069CBBDFFDE0BA51FE2D7436214E2B703A2A25CC5F1365D06BF1F0ADE8761FC1EF832BEFF1698D7E8251C94AD3FF31E5854FB0E2C9E07692173FE031561DD5D

 

Stats with no incarnates or procs but *with* Invincibility saturated with 10 targets:

 

Edited March 13, 2022 by PLVRIZR
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[Major_Decoy]

My Invincibility/Dark has lower defense numbers but much better regeneration. It uses Touch of Fear, but only enhanced with 47% damage.

 

My live build is pretty much this, but it switches Might of the Tanker with Gauntleted Fist.

 

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1495&c=701&a=1402&f=HEX&dc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

 

Edited March 14, 2022 by Major_Decoy

[PLVRIZR]

9 hours ago, Major_Decoy said:

My Invincibility/Dark has lower defense numbers but much better regeneration. It uses Touch of Fear, but only enhanced with 47% damage.

 

 

Also a very nice build.  You can see where priorities can be completely adjusted.  Compare the Recovery, EndDrain, +EndRdx, +ToHit and +Recharge, as well.  Besides, if you're not getting hit, you don't need Regen 😆.

 

One Invuln note though, a Gaussian in Invincibility procs constantly and, since DM doesn't have any sort of "build up", it really helps.  Might consider moving one Taunt slot to there.

[Parabola]

1 hour ago, PLVRIZR said:

DM doesn't have any sort of "build up"

Soul drain?

[PLVRIZR]

1 hour ago, Parabola said:

Soul drain?

You are correct.  Didn't think it took Gaussians, but just checked Mids and it does.  I stand corrected.

 

My comment about putting the +chance for Build Up in Invincibility still stands... 🙂

 

Edited March 14, 2022 by PLVRIZR
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[Hyperstrike]

16 hours ago, Major_Decoy said:

My Invincibility/Dark has lower defense numbers but much better regeneration. It uses Touch of Fear, but only enhanced with 47% damage.

 

My live build is pretty much this, but it switches Might of the Tanker with Gauntleted Fist.

 

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1495&c=701&a=1402&f=HEX&dc=78DA65945B4F134114C767B75BA1D042B1C58250A0089452A82DE0AB3111488C34E1417D6DD63A940D755B77ABA1EF5EDFBCC61711F0113F82DFC21B17131313BC8B92A8286A5C0F7BCEA4C86ED2FE76FEF33F67CF99D9D9F4CC88777272EC0893BC47F3AA69664EA8FA3437DC6935A765195CBE74D92C69D98E3143CDAA6615286D68C98CF049AE9B3C714CBF703EAF73433DADE5B5523944D3699EE73C31A21AD378CB7C1385423E31A6E5A64A9A9EABB747E35C3DC30D734A2B7AC5B80893417B303A53E4867696EB25B5A415F4C06851CB2646E149B97226AD9A256E949BA09E6EF83DF6C09FB45D2FB3641682BBB0C2E4411763296018C79B3B4C6E765DB127951BC49BC83DB788B791D577904F3D221682A57798B9FA3DB2E603F123D2FB89B88EFC09C12E11ECBA8719F7CE2283F789F3C87D0BC439A40C8BEEA660E6B6E0628F628C55894EAA9292ED6B4A110791FB8788C3C8D643C867508C47AC95E71B56D8FA1DD9F603B904A65A61AA2553DB2ED31330F94419BE2EB88B2AACA39BD8438C2223BDC418F21704D78B35A9BF88BD462E210F5C265E215E45765D432E437083646F8825373462635D41A21FF91B4C01F184C09A6CBF043DAF896F886F91D197D853F415720B821BA937A9D19071D244BA604B42624B425B18B10211CD14E16A3E8E62EC2B916A4C518D7FC0DC826F94A5B49CC3B4B102B26F8E384F7C8054E0B161B12961CAD84F19FBA9EB0630B50B53FB2ED300990260EA2413EB9C85F40185FDF5E061B2D7ABFB39163EB0445C461E5C21AE125F20E700BD62497AE3CC16177D8CC5C522C6EF6217A94DDCC3058848508494584431F510B90AB52445BA24BD3231A57280AD568589CBDA1EC3B118774A134AE5D832C996D66B4092FE933E3BA52F3B24977418BF2075116CB6EE142EA3FF247263875996A84FFF069D73EAB7CF595DD229A59CD290531A764A1E7FE51B63FD03DC22FC55

 

Dumb question.  Is this with zero'ed out Invince:?  Or saturated?

[Hyperstrike]

22 hours ago, PLVRIZR said:

 

 

16 hours ago, Major_Decoy said:

 

Both of you with saturated Invince?

[Hyperstrike]

And here's a semi-finalized version.
Only the Alpha is taken.  No other Incarnate.

 

Spoiler

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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I've Got Big Balls: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(5), GldArm-3defTpProc(7)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(11)
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(17)
Level 4: Shadow Maul -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(23)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 16: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34)
Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(34), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36), Rct-ResDam%(36), GssSynFr--Build%(36)
Level 20: Touch of Fear -- FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg(A), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(50)
Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A)
Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg(A), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(50)
Level 30: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(39), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(39), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 32: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(40), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(43)
Level 41: Char -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(43), SprEnt-End/Rchg(45), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(45), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(45), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(50)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(46), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(48)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(13), Mrc-Rcvry+(13)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15)
Level 49: Double Jump
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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[Major_Decoy]

12 hours ago, Hyperstrike said:

Dumb question.  Is this with zero'ed out Invince:?  Or saturated?

Yes, saturated invincibility. PLVRIZR had stated 10 targets so I adjusted likewise.

 

I suppose I could drop Unstoppable and pick up Combat Jumping, but I wanted Tactics for +perception, the small amount of confuse protection, and Fear and Confuse resistance it provides. (also the reason I made sure to have room for the Impervious Skin: Status Resistance and the Aegis: Status Resistance.)

 

And yeah, looking at that build again, it has a "which powers taken at which levels" weirdness that didn't make it to the live build because at one point I had the idea of "Well, if I'm taking the fighting pool for weave, maybe I can skip Temporary Invulnerability" but eventually just decided to take both and just never run tough.

 

About your build though, I understand that it doesn't really matter, there's not a whole lot of sub level 7 content to run, but I'd still want to switch the positions of Unyielding and Resist Elements. I'd also probably do acc/end/rech and acc/dam/end/rech in Soul Drain. It's a little less accuracy, but I feel like recharge is more important than damage in Soul Drain.

[Major_Decoy]

20 hours ago, PLVRIZR said:

 

Also a very nice build.  You can see where priorities can be completely adjusted.  Compare the Recovery, EndDrain, +EndRdx, +ToHit and +Recharge, as well.  Besides, if you're not getting hit, you don't need Regen 😆.

 

One Invuln note though, a Gaussian in Invincibility procs constantly and, since DM doesn't have any sort of "build up", it really helps.  Might consider moving one Taunt slot to there.

 

Yeah, losing 2.25% toxic/psionic resistance wouldn't be the worst thing to get Gaussian's, but if I could move it to Soul Drain, I could switch over to Armageddon. I'd end up with more psionic/toxic and fire/cold resistance, but less energy/negative energy.

 

Damage buffs weren't my primary concern while designing the build, but they do help maintain aggro. Hm. I'll have to think about it.

[PLVRIZR]

1 hour ago, Major_Decoy said:

 

Yeah, losing 2.25% toxic/psionic resistance wouldn't be the worst thing to get Gaussian's, but if I could move it to Soul Drain, I could switch over to Armageddon. I'd end up with more psionic/toxic and fire/cold resistance, but less energy/negative energy.

 

Damage buffs weren't my primary concern while designing the build, but they do help maintain aggro. Hm. I'll have to think about it.

Decisions, decisions.  I *love* it.  I don't use the multi/alternate builds, but that's another option that I hear people having great success with (especially on the Brute forums).

 

As you can see, I didn't even take Unstoppable, on this build, and on my other Inv builds I only use it as a mule for Impervium (5 pcs. incl. psi resist).

 

I should also note that my build is in homage to @Heraclea, god rest their soul, and I built him after Hera announced their illness, during a Tanker Tuesday event.  Found out that it is a ridiculously durable combo.

Edited March 15, 2022 by PLVRIZR
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[Hyperstrike]

6 hours ago, Major_Decoy said:

Yes, saturated invincibility. PLVRIZR had stated 10 targets so I adjusted likewise.

 

I suppose I could drop Unstoppable and pick up Combat Jumping, but I wanted Tactics for +perception, the small amount of confuse protection, and Fear and Confuse resistance it provides. (also the reason I made sure to have room for the Impervious Skin: Status Resistance and the Aegis: Status Resistance.)

 

And yeah, looking at that build again, it has a "which powers taken at which levels" weirdness that didn't make it to the live build because at one point I had the idea of "Well, if I'm taking the fighting pool for weave, maybe I can skip Temporary Invulnerability" but eventually just decided to take both and just never run tough.

 

About your build though, I understand that it doesn't really matter, there's not a whole lot of sub level 7 content to run, but I'd still want to switch the positions of Unyielding and Resist Elements. I'd also probably do acc/end/rech and acc/dam/end/rech in Soul Drain. It's a little less accuracy, but I feel like recharge is more important than damage in Soul Drain.

I've said it before.
I'll say it now.
And will say it again in the future.

Unstop is the prototype for [Self Destruct].
It's a delayed suicide button and an utter waste of a power pick for a tank built this tough.
Anything that's slaughtering you through incarnate-capped Defense and 75+% E/N and and 83+% F/C  RESIST is still going to slaughter you at 90% Resists.  You may just get another few seconds out of it.

As to specific slotting for those "leftover" powers, knock yourself out.  From an overall perspective, the changes you're suggesting are have essentially no impact on damage mitigation.

[Major_Decoy]

 

5 minutes ago, Hyperstrike said:

Unstop is the prototype for [Self Destruct].
It's a delayed suicide button and an utter waste of a power pick for a tank built this tough.
Anything that's slaughtering you through incarnate-capped Defense and 75+% E/N and and 83+% F/C  RESIST is still going to slaughter you at 90% Resists.  You may just get another few seconds out of it.

Yeah, I don't keep it on my tray, but it was a place to slot another 6% psionic resist.

[JayboH]

Bummer, I guess Touch of Fear's new damage is still being ignored in builds.

[Major_Decoy]

Well, mostly ignored in my Invulnerability/Dark build. It'd be a quick fix to switch it to Armageddon on my build, it'd lose 12% regeneration, 2.25% Energy/Negative Energy resistance, and 2.25% max endurance.

 

But it's an AoE with a really fast recharge, so you're not going to see a lot of benefit from proccing it out. There's really no challenge to slotting it for damage.

[Parabola]

ToF actually performs decently with procs as long as they are the right ones. The taoe and taunt procs are good, the fear and tohit debuff procs not so good. My usual slotting is the winter acc/dam and acc/dam/end and then four procs.

[Xandyr]

On 3/15/2022 at 7:40 AM, PLVRIZR said:

Decisions, decisions.  I *love* it.  I don't use the multi/alternate builds, but that's another option that I hear people having great success with (especially on the Brute forums).

 

As you can see, I didn't even take Unstoppable, on this build, and on my other Inv builds I only use it as a mule for Impervium (5 pcs. incl. psi resist).

 

I should also note that my build is in homage to @Heraclea, god rest their soul, and I built him after Hera announced their illness, during a Tanker Tuesday event.  Found out that it is a ridiculously durable combo.

What happened to Heraclea? I miss something?

[PLVRIZR]

2 minutes ago, Xandyr said:

What happened to Heraclea? I miss something?

 

[Xandyr]

Damn. Didn't know. 

/em holdtorch