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Hey All! 

 

I know that the "Best brute build for fire farms" has been done to death. I was interested in trying to find a cheap build for a Rad/Fire toon. I've been able to find cheap variants for Spines/Fire but nothing for Rad/Fire. The goal is to be able to still clear +4x8 fire maps, albeit slow, but still capping Def/Res needed for a fire farm. 

 

Realistically as cheap as possible would be a fun goal, but even under 200-300m would be a great start. Thanks for any input friends!

 

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While true this helps get to this point, I'm looking for a build that reaches 45% defense and 90% res as cheap as possible. The idea is to have a build that can comfortably push you towards your end build. Also, I was looking for a Rad/Fire build.. I will say this guide has a ton of useful information in it though. So thank you for linking this. 

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Forcus on 45% defense, as fire resit os easy to come by. I think a brute ends up with about 75-80% native resist with enhancement in the toggles and the passive so the last bit is easy to get via cheap IO sets even if 1.5% or 2 of the winter travel set 2.5%

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I don't know if its cheap, it doesn't look that cheap but its possible with no purples/winter/At sets. Still needs a couple pvp pieces and you'd have to play actively it won't be much good afk. I'm not a mini maxer so theres probably tons of room for improvements but it just shows how easy it is to hit 45% fire def and 90% fire res

 

 

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Level 49 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

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Level 1:    Radioactive Smash    
 (A) Mocking Beratement - Recharge
 (3) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Range
 (3) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
 (5) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range
 (5) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge
 (7) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate


Level 1:    Fire Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (7) Aegis - Resistance
 (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (9) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (11) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge


Level 2:    Blazing Aura    
 (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
 (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
 (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
 (23) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance


Level 4:    Healing Flames    
 (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge


Level 6:    Fusion    
 (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
 (23) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge


Level 8:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (25) Kismet - Accuracy +6%


Level 10:    Temperature Protection    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance
 (25) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (27) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (27) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
 (29) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 12:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense


Level 14:    Tactics    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up


Level 16:    Plasma Shield    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance
 (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (31) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (33) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge


Level 18:    Irradiated Ground    
 (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
 (33) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
 (33) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
 (34) Touch of Lady Grey - Defense Debuff
 (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage


Level 20:    Boxing    
 (A) Empty


Level 22:    Tough    
 (A) Aegis - Resistance
 (36) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
 (36) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
 (36) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
 (48) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge


Level 24:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense


Level 26:    Hasten    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (37) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 28:    Burn    
 (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (37) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
 (39) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
 (39) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
 (39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge


Level 30:    Assault    
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 32:    Atom Smasher    
 (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
 (40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (40) Eradication - Damage/Recharge
 (42) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
 (42) Eradication - Damage


Level 35:    Fiery Embrace    
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO
 (42) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 38:    Mu Lightning    
 (A) Ruin - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (43) Ruin - Accuracy/Damage
 (43) Ruin - Damage/Endurance
 (43) Ruin - Damage/Recharge
 (45) Ruin - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge


Level 41:    Electrifying Fences    
 (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff
 (45) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (45) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (46) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (46) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime
 (46) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage


Level 44:    Ball Lightning    
 (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff
 (47) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (47) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (47) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
 (48) Annihilation - Damage/RechargeTime
 (48) Annihilation - Accuracy/Damage


Level 47:    Vengeance    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed


Level 49:    [Empty]    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty


Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
 (13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
 (13) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
 (15) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
 (15) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance


Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty


Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
 (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod
 (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
 (19) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self


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Posted

Cheap, Fast, Durable.  Pick two.

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On 9/28/2022 at 3:58 AM, Veskall said:

Hey All! 

 

I know that the "Best brute build for fire farms" has been done to death. I was interested in trying to find a cheap build for a Rad/Fire toon. I've been able to find cheap variants for Spines/Fire but nothing for Rad/Fire. The goal is to be able to still clear +4x8 fire maps, albeit slow, but still capping Def/Res needed for a fire farm. 

 

Realistically as cheap as possible would be a fun goal, but even under 200-300m would be a great start. Thanks for any input friends!

 

 

This may not be an ideal thing to say for you but your wants may not exactly match the reality of fire farming, especially post Page 4's update.  You're going to need to either spend some time investing in the IO's for the more ideal build you need per effective builds post page 4 that folks have put out..... or you're going to going to have to just make other considerations.   I also have to say that likely the "cheap builds" you're speaking of for spines/fire are for pre-Page 4 considerations as well.   

 

Yes, its a bit of a catch 22 but its also not hard to run lots of TF's to get merits for IO's/recipes and then to join other farms when they call for hitters to help get your some farming under your belt to boot.  Its not insurmountable but just takes perhaps a little bit of time.   A guy for example the other week on Excelsior had a rad/fire build set up and accolades, and 3 of his incarnates to tier 4 in less than a week. Granted he was playing all day due to being on vacation he said but it should perhaps help you see its doable.

 

You just have to farm slower and incrementally higher as you get better kitted out. 

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Also, my first farmers didn't have capped Fire Def. I just used purples as needed. I've made three farmers across live and HC, and in all honestly, I would likely pull up the auction house 99 times for every time I farmed. I vastly only farm to dual box these days.

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Duh! Being honest, skip the "cheap build" and instead focus on your "end build" for a farmer.

 

Play a main character, earn reward merits, rinse repeat and get to around 3,000 RMs. Use those to buy the winter and purple sets your "end build" needs from the merit vendor. Use the 300M Inf to fill out the remainder of the build. Notes for "end build": 90% fire resist, 45% fire defence AND good hit point per second regeneration (35+/sec). Further note: come up with your own distinctive build instead of "monkey see, monkey do" copying of other builds.

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