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I am trying to build an scraper to fit the Elric of Melniboné concept.  For those who have not read the books, he is a half crazy wizarding who  uses  broadsword and has a connection with demons.  So, BS/DM seems like an obvious combination, but I am not able to find any builds for that and see a lot of negative comments about BS as a primary for scrapers on the forums.

 

Assuming cost of the build is not a major constraint (I have a very strong farmer who can fund this), can someone please help me with a final build for this combo or just tell me "don't waste your time"?

 

 

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I’m thinking katana might suit theme better, all things being equal. Elric read faster to me somehow in his diffidence. Also a classic scrapper pairing with similar mechanics to BS albeit faster activation times. 

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I can definitely vouch for BS being very viable to 50. 

 

This is my current BS/SD scrapper's build.

 

 

 


This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack
Level 1: Brawl
Level 14: Double Jump
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
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  • (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (3) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (15) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (17) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (17) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (43) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (45) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
  • (48) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
Level 2: Battle Agility
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (23) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (23) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (31) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal
  • (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (11) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (13) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (15) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
Level 6: Build Up
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  • (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (9) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (9) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
  • (11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 8: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (37) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  • (47) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (48) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 12: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (13) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Super Jump
  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
Level 16: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Whirling Sword
  • (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
Level 22: Kick
  • (A) Empty
Level 24: Tough
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (37) Aegis - Resistance
  • (40) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
Level 26: Disembowel
  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (27) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (29) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  • (29) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (31) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 28: Grant Cover
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
Level 30: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense
Level 32: Head Splitter
  • Hamidon Origin:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (33) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  • (33) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
  • (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
  • (34) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 38: Zapp
  • (A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (39) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (39) Decimation - Chance of Build Up
  • (40) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
  • (40) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
Level 41: Ball Lightning
  • (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Ragnarok - Damage
  • (42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (43) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
Level 44: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (50) Red Fortune - Defense
Level 47: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 49: One with the Shield
  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
Level 1: Critical Hit
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 1: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 1: Health
  • (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (31) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 1: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (48) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
Level 49: Quick Form

 

I get very good results ST or AOE with this (same as my WM/SD actually...and for those that don't know me, yes I know wtf I'm doing), and honestly, I only went Shields because of the aesthetic. Shields doesn't add a ton of reliable AOE. Fun AOE when it's off cooldown for darn sure, but not reliable.

 

Since you are looking more at concept, @Sanguinesun does make some good points, but dismissing BS entirely for utility definitely doesn't need to be considered. No, BS isn't the best performer, but it looks cool, feels chonky, and does good damage and debuffs.  But you can get a lot of utility with BS and still match your concept. Katana IS a better set performance wise, but it for sure feels different enough from BS.

 

What is DM in this question? I only know of DM as Dark Melee and that set is definitely lagging...

 

If someone tells you that you're wasting your time with BS they are wrong.

 

*the dude that created that character is named MoorCOCK? That's amazing.

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1 hour ago, Nyghtmaire said:

I’m thinking katana might suit theme better, all things being equal. Elric read faster to me somehow in his diffidence. Also a classic scrapper pairing with similar mechanics to BS albeit faster activation times. 

You are right, and there us a broadsword graphic available for Katana.  Thanks.  Katana / DM it is!

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1 hour ago, SomeGuy said:

I can definitely vouch for BS being very viable to 50. 

 

This is my current BS/SD scrapper's build.

 

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Broad Sword
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Hack
Level 1: Brawl
Level 14: Double Jump
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
------------

 
 

 

  • (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (3) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (15) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (17) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (17) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
  • (43) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (45) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
  • (48) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
Level 2: Battle Agility
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (23) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (23) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (31) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal
  • (5) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (11) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (13) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (15) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
Level 6: Build Up
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  • (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (9) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (9) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
  • (11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 8: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (37) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  • (47) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (48) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 12: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (13) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Super Jump
  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
Level 16: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Whirling Sword
  • (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
Level 22: Kick
  • (A) Empty
Level 24: Tough
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (37) Aegis - Resistance
  • (40) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
Level 26: Disembowel
  • (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (27) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (29) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  • (29) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (31) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 28: Grant Cover
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
Level 30: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense
Level 32: Head Splitter
  • Hamidon Origin:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (33) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  • (33) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
  • (34) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
  • (34) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 38: Zapp
  • (A) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (39) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (39) Decimation - Chance of Build Up
  • (40) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
  • (40) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic)
Level 41: Ball Lightning
  • (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Ragnarok - Damage
  • (42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (43) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy
Level 44: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (50) Red Fortune - Defense
Level 47: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 49: One with the Shield
  • (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
Level 1: Critical Hit
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 1: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 1: Health
  • (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (31) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 1: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (48) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
Level 49: Quick Form

 

I get very good results ST or AOE with this (same as my WM/SD actually...and for those that don't know me, yes I know wtf I'm doing), and honestly, I only went Shields because of the aesthetic. Shields doesn't add a ton of reliable AOE. Fun AOE when it's off cooldown for darn sure, but not reliable.

 

Since you are looking more at concept, @Sanguinesun does make some good points, but dismissing BS entirely for utility definitely doesn't need to be considered. No, BS isn't the best performer, but it looks cool, feels chonky, and does good damage and debuffs.  But you can get a lot of utility with BS and still match your concept. Katana IS a better set performance wise, but it for sure feels different enough from BS.

 

What is DM in this question? I only know of DM as Dark Melee and that set is definitely lagging...

 

If someone tells you that you're wasting your time with BS they are wrong.

 

*the dude that created that character is named MoorCOCK? That's amazing.

 

In regards to what I meant, the viability of BS diminishes depending on the play goals.  As an example, while it may be possible, you do not necessarily see many ITF 4 star hardmode BS scrappers as an extreme example. 😛

 

As for the book series author, you can read up on him: Michael Moorcock - Wikipedia

 

 

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5 hours ago, ASLNDR1 said:

uses  broadsword

 

Titan weapon as a rune sword.

 

5 hours ago, ASLNDR1 said:

he is a half crazy wizarding

 

So, obviously, the https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Sorcery pool.

 

5 hours ago, ASLNDR1 said:

I am trying to build an scraper

 

5 hours ago, ASLNDR1 said:

So, BS/DM seems like an obvious combination

 

I would suggest a Dark Armor/Titan Weapon Tank.

Why a tank instead of a scrapper? More "magical" protection.

Elric often summons elementals for protection.

 

 

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Well Dark Armor is a great resistance based set, I do have to agree with the sentiment that dark armor would work better as a tanker or brute due to the resistance hardcaps being 90% as opposed to the scrapper's resistance hardcaps being 75%. That said Dark Armor using Oppressive Gloom and CoF paired with Dark Regen will likely keep you on your feet.

 

As Dark Armor's heal is important, I'd suggest building in some degree of slow resistance, and some passive end recovery/end discount while chasing up your resistances. I'd probably also use melee core, barrier, and rune on rotation to ensure your resistances are capped.

 

Broadsword is decent enough and has some decent hitting powers, katana flows pretty well, and titan weapons is pretty great once you get the momentum mechanic down. I have experience with all three (including a DA/Katana tanker).

 

I also play DA as a scrapper with a RM/DA, and well fun, it's not as survivable by any means as a tanker or brute. However I'm not familiar with the base character.

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I would say Elrik is a BS/Willpower Brute. But you could go Scrapper also.

 

He needed drugs to survive until he gets Stormbringer. Stormbringer provides him with the health he needs to live, hence Willpower. It makes him stronger as it steals souls, hence the Brute.

You can take the Sorcery pool for the theme and take Rune of Protection which will work well with WP.

From the epic pool you could take one like Soul Mastery and pick summon Widow and have that as your Demon.

 

This would keep the theme and be quite effective.

 

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Love theme builds!

 

Broad Sword remains one of my favorite sets, maybe from nostalgia.  Paired with Dark Armor, you are going to have to focus your build around endurance management, which actually fits in nicely with the Elric concept since he frequently tired.  One thing to keep in mind is whether you want your character to be wielding with one hand (BS) or two hands (Katana).

Who run Bartertown?

 

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11 hours ago, ClawsandEffect said:

 

There's a two handed broadsword model available for Katana as well. It actually looks really good with the animations. 

Yes, you changed my mind. Katana is the best choice.  And they're two handed. I don't know why in my mind Broad Sword meant bigger = two handed but no. Also Titan Weapons are too big in my opinion in this case 😛

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