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If you like Dieselpunk, Noir mysteries, Art Deco, or Blade Runner (but cleaner and with mechanicals rather than organics), you'll probably find something to like about this atmospheric proof-of-concept.  (I'm guessing this is probably true for @ThaOGDreamWeaver.  While not perfect (there's one or two dead-eye moments, for example), it does what a proof-of-concept should do.  As recent as two months ago, the producers were saying it is their intention to create a series and a video game from this.  We'll see, but it does look promising.

 

 

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Got a two-fer (sort of), but it will require a bit of work.

Mute the clip on the left.

Do not mute the clip on the right

Play both at the same time, and enjoy the weirdness.

Finally, tell me this isn't a match made in - well, not heaven, maybe, but something close.

 

 

(Sorry for the extra work, but I don't know the legalities of lifting the audio from the second clip and playing it over the first one.  If someone knows how to do that legally, have at it!)

 

 

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4 minutes ago, TheOtherTed said:

Got a two-fer (sort of), but it will require a bit of work.

Mute the clip on the left.

Do not mute the clip on the right

Play both at the same time, and enjoy the weirdness.

Finally, tell me this isn't a match made in - well, not heaven, maybe, but something close.

 

 

(Sorry for the extra work, but I don't know the legalities of lifting the audio from the second clip and playing it over the first one.  If someone knows how to do that legally, have at it!)

 

 

Clever.

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MEEP MEEP…

 

 

…all you need is the Free Bird Seed sign.

 

Wonderfully silly, Top Gear style vid with a serious side: how good are cameras for self-drive (on Teslas and some others) vs the likes of LIDAR (Volvos, Polestars etc)?

WAKE UP YA MISCREANTS AND... HEY, GET YOUR OWN DAMN SIGNATURE.

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3 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

MEEP MEEP…

 

 

…all you need is the Free Bird Seed sign.

 

Wonderfully silly, Top Gear style vid with a serious side: how good are cameras for self-drive (on Teslas and some others) vs the likes of LIDAR (Volvos, Polestars etc)?

 

I'm surprised he acted like no one knew what Space Mountain and the Haunted Mansion looked like under the "magic".  Last time I rode Space Mountain, 30 years back admittedly, they had some non-ride maintenance reason for keeping the work lights on, and we rode the ride in the light, seeing everything.  I was given to believe this was an occasional happening.  I remember thinking it reminded me of an upscaled Wild Mouse roller coaster.   If there's a secret to the Haunted Mansion's first room, the "stretching" room, it is a terribly kept secret, as is the fact that the ride actually takes place in a camouflaged building.  I don't remember where I first learned this (I was a Disney Store employee at my home mall back in 1994, so perhaps then) but there've been videos on the subject for a while.

 

As to the camera vs. Lidar bit, regardless of the company names involved (and the politics that go along with them), I set out to get a listing of crashes and fatalities regarding the self-driving vehicle business, and quickly gave up as there are too many variables in play to make a quick work of it: at least 28 companies, using a variety of "seeing" technology, over years (which means technology that caused a crash in 2019 might have been greatly improved in 2024), etc.   What I will say is that having a single technology to view the surroundings does not seem to be wise.  Even multiple technologies appear to fail occasionally.  One company I read about, for example, is said to have been using a combination of Lidar, cameras, and radar, yet still had hundreds of crashes, including at least one fatality.  In their defense, they point out that their developing technology has already been demonstrated to be nine times safer than the humans that live in the testing city.  Still, we appear to be a long way from a truly safe marketable concept, and one of those things that we'll need to address is terroristic Looney Toons fan boys who set camouflaged brick walls across roads for kicks and giggles.

 

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4 hours ago, Techwright said:

Still, we appear to be a long way from a truly safe marketable concept, and one of those things that we'll need to address is terroristic Looney Toons fan boys who set camouflaged brick walls across roads for kicks and giggles.

Without getting into the politics of it, I don’t think FSD/Autopilot is going to be fully safe for ground vehicles for many, many years if ever. There’s just too much random stuff to interpret in a ground environment that you can’t predict: especially other humans, who seem to behave like hungry coyotes on rocket cycles quite a lot of the time.

 

(eg: late night on the M25, London’s big beltway and sigil of low-grade evil, someone threw a yacht at me. Towing it way too fast, it started bouncing uncontrollably before spinning out, yanking the towing Range Rover around sideways, snapping the hitch and sending the car up the verge, while the yacht bounced off the central barrier and skidded back across the road.
 

Dodged it but was kinda shaken up for a while. Unless there’s an area of Florida with land pirates, not something you’d program for.)

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6 hours ago, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Without getting into the politics of it, I don’t think FSD/Autopilot is going to be fully safe for ground vehicles for many, many years if ever. There’s just too much random stuff to interpret in a ground environment that you can’t predict: especially other humans, who seem to behave like hungry coyotes on rocket cycles quite a lot of the time.

 

(eg: late night on the M25, London’s big beltway and sigil of low-grade evil, someone threw a yacht at me. Towing it way too fast, it started bouncing uncontrollably before spinning out, yanking the towing Range Rover around sideways, snapping the hitch and sending the car up the verge, while the yacht bounced off the central barrier and skidded back across the road.
 

Dodged it but was kinda shaken up for a while. Unless there’s an area of Florida with land pirates, not something you’d program for.)

Yes, no politics, but I'm of the opinion that it will be years if not decades before self-driving vehicles (SDVs) are truly safe.  Your stated experience (besides giving Final Destination vibes) gives a whole new perspective as well.  The SDVs are being designed with all considerations to the direction they're heading.  What happens if an attached trailer develops problems such as a tire blow-out on the interstate/motorway?  Can the SDV sense and adapt to it as safely as possible?  That is precisely what will need to be considered by those developing SDVs in the freight trucking industry, not to mention any 4-wheeler pulling a mobile home or smaller trailer.

 

Oh, and back to the video, I'm not convinced that the team, in anticipation, didn't pre-cut the styrofoam wall into the jagged pattern of a cartoon explosion through a wall.  The pattern of the aftermath feel more like Looney Toons than real world.

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30 minutes ago, Techwright said:

That is precisely what will need to be considered by those developing SDVs in the freight trucking industry, not to mention any 4-wheeler pulling a mobile home or smaller trailer.

Think you'd need a sensor rig on the towed vehicle as well to monitor for vibrations and path deviation.

 

That reminded me of another "stated experience": depths of winter, going up a hill in the wilds of Norfolk, following a BP petrol tanker truck.

Seemed to be struggling a bit with the ice.

Then stopped.

Then started coming back down.

Then the trailer started coming out sideways, occupying the entire road. 

Luckily there was enough grass verge to duck out onto, but neither I nor my IBS are fond of things like that.

 

As my instructor said:

"Remember, 99 out of 100 drivers on the road are idiots."

"So I'm supposed to be the good one?"
"No, they're an escaped psychopath. People will always, always do what you don't expect, so Remember The Box."

 

Defensive Driving's kept me safe. If paranoid and cautious, to the extent my 6-year-old niece takes the mick out of me.

 

29 minutes ago, Techwright said:

The pattern of the aftermath feel more like Looney Toons than real world.

The reaction from the driver felt fairly genuine, but I wouldn't put it past them if they had to run a take 2 (or more) and take 1 wasn't satisfying enough.

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