A question about end game and PvP.

[Sepherion]

So, I was thinking about coming back but I did want to ask, is there any sort of ladder aspect to pvp? An even minimal one? PvP Tiers or something? The other question I have is, what is the endgame like? Would I be just grinding for power upgrades? Thanks in advance!

[Glacier Peak]

6 minutes ago, Sepherion said:

So, I was thinking about coming back but I did want to ask, is there any sort of ladder aspect to pvp? An even minimal one? PvP Tiers or something? The other question I have is, what is the endgame like? Would I be just grinding for power upgrades? Thanks in advance!

To answer your first question, no. There are only player-led (sometimes HC-sponsored prizes) or player-created events these days for PvP in the Arena and PvP zone play occasionally on Excelsior if you're interested. There is some aspect to grinding for enhancements needed to "max out" aspects of a build for any given situation, but the journey was made much easier by the Homecoming team for folks interested solely in PvP (an instant Level 50 that is secluded to PvP zones/Arena/ Pocket D only). 

[Snarky]

9 minutes ago, Sepherion said:

So, I was thinking about coming back but I did want to ask, is there any sort of ladder aspect to pvp? An even minimal one? PvP Tiers or something? The other question I have is, what is the endgame like? Would I be just grinding for power upgrades? Thanks in advance!

This game, even at the end, is unlike most of what you are used to.

 

You can play it your way, at varying power level.  

 

The "end all" of PvE is fully incarnated (a sm grind to get there) with a "full build"  This will allow you to step into the hardest Incarnate Trials with good chances, although the newest HARD mode TFsSFs like Dr Aeon and ITF will take that + skill/knowledge.  

 

I know nothing of PvP.  it has always been a different game, built for and played under different rules than PvE.  It does have 4 separate zones stuck at different max level.  

[GastlyGibus]

PvP in this game is dead. I'm sorry, I know a lot of people will say "nu-uh! There's PvP communities!" but they're probably the least active out of all of them. There is a very small fraction of players who do get involved in PvP, but there's no ladders, no real tiers, because it just isn't popular in this game.

 

Endgame is whatever was left at shutdown, which is Incarnate trials, plus some of the "advanced" difficulty task forces. Currently there's only the Imperious TF and Dr. Aeon SF that utilize this advanced difficulty, potentially with plans to add more, but considering the "volunteer" aspect of the game masters, it's not something to expect with any degree of quickness.

 

I'm not trying to sound pessimistic or negative, but endgame and PvP are by far the two weakest aspects of this game, and honestly, that's kind of what drew a lot of players to this game in the first place, the fact that it wasn't this endless grind like other MMOs. The original devs were planning on expanding the endgame to ever-further heights, but then shutdown happened, and what we're left with is only a tiny bite of what was planned. 

[SeraphimKensai]

If you want to get involved with PvP in the game, you can check the PvP subforum here, but here's the PvP discord link: https://discord.com/invite/nVxKvc7d

[America's Angel]

22 hours ago, Sepherion said:

So, I was thinking about coming back but I did want to ask, is there any sort of ladder aspect to pvp? An even minimal one? PvP Tiers or something? The other question I have is, what is the endgame like? Would I be just grinding for power upgrades? Thanks in advance!

 

There's an active Excelsior PvP Fightclub community here. Have about 300 ish members:

https://discord.gg/6cGRXvu2sW

We have a leaderboard here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8D4JdPM9xv9srHPgcyeK6jK5Bdz2kRDtvs6tIQW9IU/edit#gid=2069633451

One of our admins also runs regular RPvP events over on Everlasting.

[DoctorDitko]

In most modern MMOs, the fun starts at 50.

Here, for some of us, that's when the fun starts to end.

 

I'd even say -- for me -- 90% of the fun happens between levels 10 and 49.

[Snarky]

Honestly I have always been addicted to going theough old story arcs at level they were designed for.  To me Redside is the best it got.  Sure, Gold had better gimmicks…but the storyline….politics and mindgames?   No thanks.   Give me a double dealing crook boss any day of the week.  The stories are believable, have fun twists, self reference, and lead into big storylines of the game.  

[UltraAlt]

On 12/21/2023 at 6:36 PM, Sepherion said:

So, I was thinking about coming back but I did want to ask, is there any sort of ladder aspect to pvp? An even minimal one? PvP Tiers or something? The other question I have is, what is the endgame like? Would I be just grinding for power upgrades? Thanks in advance!

 

You will have to "grind" to get enhancements unless you run into people that will help you with some loot like:

 

 

 

But, if you are okay with characters for PVP only, then check out "Temporal Warriors".