terrasmash Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Thinking fire as primary or AR but open to ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelika2 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Think we had this thread before and it ended up being "everything" this post was not made to taunt or antagonize you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasmash Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 Any idea where it went? Looking in Mids ATM. dark, fire, and AR seem to be my top 3 then energy, EB and ice are after. With EM being all melee thinking fast cast or soft cc main will be best. Thought? All 👍 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honoroit Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Seismic (stalagmites empowered), or archery 🏹 (stunning shot), or psi (scramble minds chain attack), or dual pistols (suppressive fire) for another disorient? If you're doing energy 2ndary, you probably don't mind melee. Seismic is really good but wont work properly if you want to fly. I'd pick dual pistols, as the ammo swapping thing lets you really tune into what's missing in a group, and generally feels dynamic and fun, kupo... also, you can now use crossbows(!), so circle of thorns, demon hunter, or legacy chain estranged orphan cosplay style points goes up. -- Figs, crossbow specialist and traumatized legacy chain escapee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 13 hours ago, kelika2 said: Think we had this thread before and it ended up being "everything" 13 hours ago, terrasmash said: Any idea where it went? Looking in Mids ATM. dark, fire, and AR seem to be my top 3 then energy, EB and ice are after. With EM being all melee thinking fast cast or soft cc main will be best. Thought? All 👍 😊 For my 2 Inf, if I wanted a Blaster that was going to lean into Melee, I would take /Atomic or /Martial before /Energy. From the previous discussion, I was left with the impression that /Energy was typically recommended for characters that were going to mostly stay at range and/or lean into secondary effects from attacks. This comment is not included as a blanket statement of attitudes, just that as a player that uses Energy Melee but wouldn't specifically consider Energy Manipulation(*1) for performance. My recollection is based on what I recall other folks advocating it for. Concept is a different kettle of fish. (*1) I happen to like Stuns/Disorients... my hesitation to /Energy is emphasis on single-target attacks (for a Blaster). Other secondaries mix-up the offensive potential more to my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honoroit Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) ^ suppose, but blaster can be controller-ey lite, in a satisfying way you just can't match on dominator damage wise. I kinda see the mixed melee / ranged (with lighter control) on a lot of blasters I don't just make fire or elec that way. I'd agree that Energy manip has a lot of great stuff beyond a bunch of melee with disorient, but if you're active and engaged, a lot of the time you're in or near melee. Plus, slotting diversity is good when you've melee mix in. I'd not ignore 5 powers in a secondary, just wanting boost range, build up, power boost, and energize. Rather lean into it; Stuns if they're in your face, a GTFO me power thrust, and then things like those mentioned. Boost range with dual pistols cones, and choices of ammo, is a lot of spread on debuffs and minor control. Whatever you pick, energy manip isn't single focus, and that does NOT make it bad. -- Figs, power balance buildcraft expert Edited August 18 by honoroit spells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasmash Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 7 minutes ago, honoroit said: ^ spouse, but blaster can be controller-ey lite, in a satisfying way you just can't match on dominator damage wise. I kinda see the mixed melee / ranged (with lighter control) on a lot of blasters I don't just make fire or elec. I'd agree that Energy manip gas a lot of great stuff beyond a bunch of melee with disorient, but if you're active and engaged, a lot of the time you're in or near melee. Plus, slotting diversity is good when you've melee mix in. I'd not ignore 5 powers in a secondary, just wanting boost range, build up, power boost, and energize. Rather lean into it; Stuns if they're in your face, a GTFO me power thrust, and then things like those mentioned. Boost range with dual pistols cones, and choices of ammo, is a lot of spread on debuffs and minor control. Whatever you pick, energy manip isn't single focus, and that does NOT make it bad. -- Figs, power balance buildcraft expert Thanks for the pic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Pow Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Energy Manipulation's melee attacks are great for hard targets like Bosses, EBs, and even AVs. Your primary attacks will more than likely wipe out the minions/Lts. easily, so I find more AoE damage would be overkill anyway. Combined with Blaster's +dam boosting inherent, Energy Punch/Bone Smasher/Total Focus put out a ridiculous amount of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasmash Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Biff Pow said: Energy Manipulation's melee attacks are great for hard targets like Bosses, EBs, and even AVs. Your primary attacks will more than likely wipe out the minions/Lts. easily, so I find more AoE damage would be overkill anyway. Combined with Blaster's +dam boosting inherent, Energy Punch/Bone Smasher/Total Focus put out a ridiculous amount of damage. Mostly why I picked this was looking for some good primeries for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacke Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I have a Sonic Attack/Energy Manipulation Blapper. 😺 1 Remember! Let's be careful out there! City Global @Jacke, @Jacke2 || Discord @jacke4913 @TheUnnamedOne's BadgeReporter Popmenu Commands Popmenu including Long Range Teleport Available Zones Finding Your City Install Root on Windows for HC Launcher, Tequila, Island Rum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atletikus Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Energy Manipulation is particularly effective with primary powers that have short-range cone AoEs, such as Assault Rifle, since Boost Range will increase their range. Be mindful that Energy Manipulation is an exceedingly clicky power set, so it's advisable to use macros to help manage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honoroit Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) does boost range work on pbaoe attacks or pseudopet radius (or placement range)? or is it specifically strength to RANGED (ranged single, ranged aoe, ranged snipe)? it just says: +59.6% Range Strength (self only) for 30s Set Mode (BoostRange) (self only) for 30s (that'd make 'hail of bullets' ~40ft PBAOE... that cant be possible!?) Edited August 19 by honoroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungeoness Eloora Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 41 minutes ago, honoroit said: does boost range work on pbaoe attacks or pseudopet radius (or placement range)? or is it specifically strength to RANGED (ranged single, ranged aoe, ranged snipe)? it just says: +59.6% Range Strength (self only) for 30s Set Mode (BoostRange) (self only) for 30s (that'd make 'hail of bullets' ~40ft PBAOE... that cant be possible!?) Only the range at which you can cast an ability can get boosted. Nothing enhances aoe radii other than playing a Tanker. 1 @dungeoness and @eloora on Excelsior <Federation of United Cosmic Knights> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honoroit Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 17 minutes ago, Dungeoness Eloora said: Only the range at which you can cast an ability can get boosted. Nothing enhances aoe radii other than playing a Tanker. curses! that ruins my latest foolproof master plan. its still good tho... can be perma too (base recharge is 60s, lasts 30s)... curses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasmash Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 Thank you for all the info, I went with darkblast and Em took mystic for flight and the rune also stealth, idea is to use the to to get in mob then power boost and drop stun, Blackstar then use a combo of 2nd cone and life drain along with total focus and darkblast for clean up also moonbeam for runaways. Engerise is perma; would that take care of end? Have a build but on phone ATM. Aim and BU are 5sloted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasmash Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1658&c=714&a=1428&f=HEX&dc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is there something I am lacking/ could be slotted better? ik it's a clicky set and not def/resist soft cap. hoping that my nuke and aoe stun take care of most of the mob on opening volley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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