Do you want statesman to return?

[Lightslinger]

Eh, I'd rather Statesman stay dead. HOWEVER.

 

I'm pretty sure it's illegal Psyche is still dead. She's a red-headed telepath, they aren't allowed to stay dead more than 30 days at a time!

[WuTang]

Yes! But I'm still a new dude so I got questions I'd like to ask him...like

 

How did he handle Rage crash?

Or...

Why did he have two travel powers?

And...

Did he have End use problems and how'd handle it?

[Marine X]

On 12/1/2024 at 11:56 AM, Zhym said:

But Statesman should be in Echo:AP, at the least.

I think this would be the easiest and most non-intrusive way to bring him back. All the Echo Zones are outside space and time, and locked at a point in History, in this case a point where he was very much still alive. It would be a fitting tribute to the character and not upend the lore.

[Luminara]

19 hours ago, Zhym said:

Are there no pigeons at all in Paragon City?

There were, but the catgirls ate all of them.

[Zhym]

1 hour ago, Marine X said:

I think this would be the easiest and most non-intrusive way to bring him back. All the Echo Zones are outside space and time, and locked at a point in History, in this case a point where he was very much still alive. It would be a fitting tribute to the character and not upend the lore.

The only problem, which I realized only recently, is that Statesman was never the trainer in AP.  It was always Ms. Liberty, wasn't it?  So making him the trainer in Echo:AP doesn't really fit the known history.

 

And that's part of why I'm not all that invested in Statesman—my toons never really interacted with him (except for saving his butt in the original Maria Jenkins arc).

 

 

[UltraAlt]

On 12/1/2024 at 11:56 AM, Zhym said:

I’d rather have Back Alley Brawler where Ms. Liberty is standing.  Doesn’t seem fair that he’s relegated to a far corner (a…back alley?) of AP while she’s in both AP and IP.

 

Wasn't Back Alley Brawler the "Ms Liberty" of Galaxy City?

 

I would rather see Back Alley Brawler replace Blue Steel in Kings Row. It seems more thematically correct.

[Marine X]

39 minutes ago, Zhym said:

The only problem, which I realized only recently, is that Statesman was never the trainer in AP.

True, my thought was just to place him somewhere in Echo: AP, maybe in City Hall, under the Atlas Statue reading a Newspaper, sitting on a park bench eating a Donut, just somewhere so that he is part of that moment in time.

[Spaghetti Betty]

I don't think I want Statesman to return as much as I wish he was more visible in progression content. It never really made sense to me, even from the early days of the game that the guy featured on the box is pretty much only talked about and hardly ever seen! It was very difficult for me as a player to care about him as an icon when the soonest anyone ever saw him was at the end of A Hero's Hero (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

So when he died, I didn't really care!

[Mopery]

I remember hearing about "Who Will Die" and telling people that I bet it would be Statesman, to which most players mocked me and said it couldn't possibly be Statesman. I just figured it was like the "Death of Superman" comics, why bother building such tension only to have it be some sidekick be the one who dies? Let States rest in peace after his epic swan song.

[tidge]

6 hours ago, Lightslinger said:

I'm pretty sure it's illegal Psyche is still dead. She's a red-headed telepath, they aren't allowed to stay dead more than 30 days at a time!

 

Personally: I still find the Sister Psyche lore to be entirely too complicated, even without considering Praetoria. The Malaise, Aurora Borealis, Manticore, etc. stuff is simply too much IMO.

 

My only issue with Statesman was that (at launch), he was clearly identified as an Invulnerability Tanker, yet could do a whole lotta things an Invulnerability Tanker could not do in-game. I don't think I saw the game the same way Jack Emmert did, but I have no personal beef with him.

[SmokinIndo]

I read somewhere that the original plan was for Tyrant to take up the Statesman mantle. I wouldn't mind if they did that, but Primal Earth's Marcus Cole should stay dead.