SmalltalkJava Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 Just curious if anyone has actually reported this? I myself haven’t check the logs to verify, so I’m going off what the MM gurus are reporting. Baseline MM Henchmen Defenses and Resist Values MM - Beast Pets - Pet Attack usage and some quick proc testing
biostem Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 What do you mean by a "~30% non attack bug" - do you mean about 30% of the time the beasts don't attack, or do you mean they seem to stand there and do nothing for about 30% of the time? I have a baby beast MM, and the wolves and lioness seem to attack at about the expected rate...
SmalltalkJava Posted July 10, 2019 Author Posted July 10, 2019 What do you mean by a "~30% non attack bug" - do you mean about 30% of the time the beasts don't attack, or do you mean they seem to stand there and do nothing for about 30% of the time? I have a baby beast MM, and the wolves and lioness seem to attack at about the expected rate... Where they just stand around not doing anything. They start the attack fine. It seems that once they start cycling their attack chains they reach a dead spot. https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,5922.msg48980.html#msg48980 Baseline MM Henchmen Defenses and Resist Values MM - Beast Pets - Pet Attack usage and some quick proc testing
Elthenar Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 I don't know if this is true or not. I have a beasts char but I don't know how to track this sort of thing. I can tell you that beasts have a lot of non-attack abilities. Like Lick wounds and the various howls. This deadspot could simply be an instance of a couple of these abilities landing in a row.
Dixa Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 I don't know if this is true or not. I have a beasts char but I don't know how to track this sort of thing. I can tell you that beasts have a lot of non-attack abilities. Like Lick wounds and the various howls. This deadspot could simply be an instance of a couple of these abilities landing in a row. it is true. it's dps deadtime. it was reported on the old forums pre shutdown as an issue for the set. it has not been addressed as of yet.
WumpusRat Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 I don't know if this is true or not. I have a beasts char but I don't know how to track this sort of thing. I can tell you that beasts have a lot of non-attack abilities. Like Lick wounds and the various howls. This deadspot could simply be an instance of a couple of these abilities landing in a row. I tested a fully upgraded howler wolf (so no lick wounds) against a training dummy on the test server a couple weeks ago. The combat log is in another thread. There are several periods of time where the wolf is literally doing nothing. Like a 3-5 second window where it's not attacking, no casting a buff/debuff, etc. Their bite attack has, it says, a 3s cooldown, so there should never be a dead-spot that lasts more than 3 seconds. In a 60-second period the wolf did 21 things. If it was doing JUST bite, that would track, but it has three other abilities it was using as well. You know, come to think of it, I might revisit the test with a howler with NO upgrades, so all it has is the basic bite and lunge. See if it actually attacks more often. If it does, then we can try and narrow down what might be causing the dead zones.
SmalltalkJava Posted July 13, 2019 Author Posted July 13, 2019 I don't know if this is true or not. I have a beasts char but I don't know how to track this sort of thing. I can tell you that beasts have a lot of non-attack abilities. Like Lick wounds and the various howls. This deadspot could simply be an instance of a couple of these abilities landing in a row. I tested a fully upgraded howler wolf (so no lick wounds) against a training dummy on the test server a couple weeks ago. The combat log is in another thread. There are several periods of time where the wolf is literally doing nothing. Like a 3-5 second window where it's not attacking, no casting a buff/debuff, etc. Their bite attack has, it says, a 3s cooldown, so there should never be a dead-spot that lasts more than 3 seconds. In a 60-second period the wolf did 21 things. If it was doing JUST bite, that would track, but it has three other abilities it was using as well. You know, come to think of it, I might revisit the test with a howler with NO upgrades, so all it has is the basic bite and lunge. See if it actually attacks more often. If it does, then we can try and narrow down what might be causing the dead zones. @WumpusRat excellent. way to take the initiative! What a community we have here. Baseline MM Henchmen Defenses and Resist Values MM - Beast Pets - Pet Attack usage and some quick proc testing
Troyusrex Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I'm leveling up a beasts/Time MM now. (at 46, I think). I do see this bug from time to time, but not often. I'd guess it's closer to 3% than 30%. When it happens I just tell them to attack my target and away they go, so it's not a huge issue.
kelly Rocket Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I think you're misunderstanding the issue. It's not about them not running up to the target. It's about them not actually biting the target as frequently as they should be, according to the recharge values of their powers.
StrikerFox Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Did some testing, video and data below. I think part of the problem might be Vicious Bite and the Bleed DoT. Bleed ticks once per second and often appears the pet does nothing while the DoT is active. The pet should be able to use alternate powers while Bleed is active. Wolf: 2019-07-21 13:17:30 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:31 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:32 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:32 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Maiming Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage and reduces their movement speed and defense! 2019-07-21 13:17:32 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:40 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:40 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:41 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:42 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:43 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:45 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:46 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:55 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:56 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:57 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:58 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:17:59 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:01 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Maiming Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage and reduces their movement speed and defense! 2019-07-21 13:18:04 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:08 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:09 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:10 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:10 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Maiming Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage and reduces their movement speed and defense! 2019-07-21 13:18:13 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:14 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:15 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:16 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:17 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:19 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:24 Slag: Slag lets out an howl bolstering the damage of nearby beast allies! 2019-07-21 13:18:28 Slag: Slag shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:28 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:29 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:30 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:32 Slag: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! ===================================================================================================== Lion: 2019-07-21 13:18:46 Swoop: Swoop lets out an howl bolstering the defense of nearby beast allies! 2019-07-21 13:18:50 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:50 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:51 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:51 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:51 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:52 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:55 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:55 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:18:59 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:00 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:01 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:01 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:02 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:02 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:03 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:03 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:03 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:03 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:04 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:04 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:04 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:04 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:05 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:08 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:11 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:15 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:16 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:17 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:17 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:17 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:18 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:18 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:18 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:18 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:19 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:19 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:20 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:20 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:21 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:24 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:28 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:28 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:28 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:28 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:28 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:29 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:30 Swoop: Your Claw Swipe causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:30 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:31 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:32 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:33 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:33 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:34 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:37 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:38 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:39 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:40 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:41 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:41 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:42 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:42 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:44 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:45 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:46 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:46 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:46 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:46 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:47 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:47 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:48 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:49 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:49 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:53 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:53 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:55 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:55 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:55 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:55 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:55 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:56 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:57 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:19:58 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:00 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:00 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:03 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:03 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:04 Swoop: Your Claw Rake causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:06 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:06 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:06 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:06 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Swipe for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:08 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:10 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:11 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:12 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:12 Swoop: Swoop lets out an howl bolstering the defense of nearby beast allies! 2019-07-21 13:20:13 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:14 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:15 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Claw Rake for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:17 Swoop: Swoop begins a Wild Charge boosting their damage and movement speed. 2019-07-21 13:20:18 Swoop: Swoop shreds Practice Dummy with their Vicious Bite for 0 points of Lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:19 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:20 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:21 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage! 2019-07-21 13:20:22 Swoop: Your Vicious Bite causes Practice Dummy to bleed for 0 points of lethal damage!
SmalltalkJava Posted July 21, 2019 Author Posted July 21, 2019 FYI. I created a bug post for this a few days back https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,7133.0.html 1 Baseline MM Henchmen Defenses and Resist Values MM - Beast Pets - Pet Attack usage and some quick proc testing
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