Plant/Nature Build - Perma Overgrowth Attempt

Griffyn · August 10, 2019

Here's my build. I'm shooting for perma-Overgrowth and according to Mid's I'm just shy by under a second with a Radial Core Paragon. That works for me, but I was wondering if anyone saw anything that I missed in the build.

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Level 50 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Nature Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Strangler

(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold: Level 50
(5) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(5) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(7) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold: Level 50
(46) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50

Level 1: Corrosive Enzymes

(A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(9) Accuracy IO: Level 50

Level 2: Regrowth

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(7) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(13) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(15) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(29) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 4: Wild Growth

(A) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
(9) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Recharge: Level 30
(29) Impervious Skin - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(31) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(31) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance: Level 30

Level 6: Roots

(A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold: Level 50

Level 8: Seeds of Confusion

(A) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance: Level 50
(37) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Coercive Persuasion - Confused: Level 50

Level 10: Spore Cloud

(A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff: Level 50
(11) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance: Level 50
(11) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(13) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50

Level 12: Spore Burst

(A) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep: Level 50
(45) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Endurance: Level 50

Level 14: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(15) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 16: Lifegiving Spores

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(17) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(17) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(27) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50

Level 18: Vines

(A) Superior Will of the Controller - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized: Level 50
(19) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage: Level 50

Level 20: Wild Bastion

(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal: Level 50
(21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(21) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50
(23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance: Level 50
(25) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb: Level 50

Level 22: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 24: Assault

(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 26: Carrion Creepers

(A) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
(46) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50

Level 28: Rebirth

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(42) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 30: Vengeance

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 32: Fly Trap

(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

Level 35: Entangling Aura

(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
(36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(36) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(50) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30

Level 38: Overgrowth

(A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(39) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge: Level 50

Level 41: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 44: Temp Invulnerability

(A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance: Level 30

Level 47: Power Boost

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 49: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Containment

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

Edited August 11, 2019 by Griffyn

Griffyn · August 12, 2019

Found some issues with the build. I had capped out on two of the recharge bonuses. So I changed Impervious Skin to Aegis, and Ragnarok to Positron's Blast. I also dropped a slot from Strangler and added a 6th slot to Wild Growth for a Steadfast KB Protect. This gets me perma by a fraction of a second. I could get it lower, but I like the idea of using Power Boost on the buffs.

Comments are more than welcome!

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962
http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Green Shield: Level 50 Technology Controller
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Nature Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Strangler

(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(5) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(5) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(7) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold: Level 50
(45) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50

Level 1: Corrosive Enzymes

(A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
(9) Accuracy IO: Level 50

Level 2: Regrowth

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(7) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(13) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(15) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(29) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 4: Wild Growth

(A) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
(29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
(31) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance: Level 50
(46) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30

Level 6: Roots

(A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(34) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold: Level 50

Level 8: Seeds of Confusion

(A) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(37) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance: Level 50
(37) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge: Level 50
(46) Coercive Persuasion - Confused: Level 50

Level 10: Spore Cloud

(A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff: Level 50
(11) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance: Level 50
(11) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
(13) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50

Level 12: Spore Burst

(A) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep: Level 50
(45) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Recharge: Level 50
(45) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge: Level 50
(48) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Endurance: Level 50

Level 14: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(15) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 16: Lifegiving Spores

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(17) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(17) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(27) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(27) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50

Level 18: Vines

(A) Superior Will of the Controller - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge: Level 50
(19) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized: Level 50
(19) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(25) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage: Level 50

Level 20: Wild Bastion

(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal: Level 50
(21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(21) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
(23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime: Level 50
(23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance: Level 50
(25) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb: Level 50

Level 22: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 24: Tactics

(A) To Hit Buff IO: Level 50

Level 26: Carrion Creepers

(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(40) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(40) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(46) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 50

Level 28: Rebirth

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
(42) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
(42) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
(48) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50

Level 30: Vengeance

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 32: Fly Trap

(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
(34) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50

Level 35: Entangling Aura

(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
(36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
(36) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
(50) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30

Level 38: Overgrowth

(A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff: Level 50
(39) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
(40) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge: Level 50

Level 41: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 44: Temp Invulnerability

(A) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance: Level 30

Level 47: Power Boost

(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50

Level 49: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Containment

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash Edited August 12, 2019 by Griffyn

Cutter · August 14, 2019

As someone who's working on getting my own /Nature dork into perma territory, I'll be playing around with your slotting ideas on my build.

Hedgefund · August 14, 2019

I've a Plant/Nature that I rather enjoy.

A few comments from a cursory glance -

I have base to-hit as 48 in my Mids (for +3s). 1 Accuracy in Corrosive Enzymes is enough to have a final to-hit over 95% there.

Since you're not really chasing aoe and/or fire/cold def, I'd move a slot (the end/rch) from Wild Growth, which doesn't need a lot of recharge to be perma.

I'd move those 2 new slots to temp invul to either buff res/end in that power or perhaps provide a home to the two 3% Def IOs

Personally I love the Panacea set in Lifegiving Spores. The proc works on teammates in the patch.

I'd sacrifice the Posi set bonuses to make creepers a proc monster (note - this is a thing I haven't done yet, I still have Posi in my Creepers but am going to change). Testing results for creeper procs look impressive.

That's just my 2 inf, you'll be a-ok as-is regardless.

Cutter · August 14, 2019

1 hour ago, Hedgefund said:

Personally I love the Panacea set in Lifegiving Spores. The proc works on teammates in the patch.

Would the other heal set procs also work in LS? Could be neat to to just throw all the heal/end procs in there.

Xyzor · August 18, 2019

Which Alpha slot would you recommend?

Any slots in Health or Stamina for +end/+heal procs?

Also, no travel power? I get the extra utility, but I think I'd get annoyed. If you were to take one, which power would you swap out? Power Boost maybe? Is that power any good?

Thanks!

Dungeoness Eloora · August 20, 2019

On 8/14/2019 at 1:12 PM, Cutter said:

Would the other heal set procs also work in LS? Could be neat to to just throw all the heal/end procs in there.

Panacea affects the targets of the heal because it was made to, with a power description to match. The other heal procs do not, so only affect yourself.

Cutter · August 20, 2019

8 minutes ago, Dungeoness said:

Panacea affects the targets of the heal because it was made to, with a power description to match. The other heal procs do not, so only affect yourself.

Well there goes the plant proc patch plan! Still, I'll certainly make room for the Panacea proc if nothing else. Thanks for the clarification.

Dark Current · August 20, 2019

2 hours ago, Dungeoness said:

Panacea affects the targets of the heal because it was made to, with a power description to match. The other heal procs do not, so only affect yourself.

Has anyone tested this on the 'new' preventive medicine proc? It never made it to live, so I don't know if it was intended to behave like Panacea.

Also, a lot of changes were made to procs for I24, so has any testing been done to confirm that older healing procs weren't modified to affect allies. Not calling you a liar or anything. I just am working on my own plant/nature controller and wasn't sure if all the old rules still applied on HC.

Thanks!

Cutter · August 22, 2019

On 8/21/2019 at 12:38 AM, 5099y_74c05 said:

What is your question about it?

Whether the Prev Med proc, like the Panacea proc, will trigger for allies in a Lifegiving Spores patch. Or if it's limited to only affecting yourself.

Griffyn · August 24, 2019

On 8/14/2019 at 12:08 PM, Hedgefund said:

I've a Plant/Nature that I rather enjoy.

A few comments from a cursory glance -

I have base to-hit as 48 in my Mids (for +3s). 1 Accuracy in Corrosive Enzymes is enough to have a final to-hit over 95% there.

Since you're not really chasing aoe and/or fire/cold def, I'd move a slot (the end/rch) from Wild Growth, which doesn't need a lot of recharge to be perma.

I'd move those 2 new slots to temp invul to either buff res/end in that power or perhaps provide a home to the two 3% Def IOs

Personally I love the Panacea set in Lifegiving Spores. The proc works on teammates in the patch.

I'd sacrifice the Posi set bonuses to make creepers a proc monster (note - this is a thing I haven't done yet, I still have Posi in my Creepers but am going to change). Testing results for creeper procs look impressive.

That's just my 2 inf, you'll be a-ok as-is regardless.

Great comments! I pulled the slot from Corrosive Enzymes and put it in Temp. Invul. with a +3% Def IO. For the slot in Wild Growth, the +3% Def IO are global enhancers so it doesn't matter where I slot it, right? If so, I'll swap the slot in WG for the Steadfast +3% Def IO.

Putting Panacea in Lifegiving Spores is a great idea. I didn't realize the proc would work on allies and I increase my global recharge rate too.

I really won't be losing much overall recharge if I drop Posi from Creepers. Even though I won't technically have it perma it'll be in the fraction of a second short. My question is will Creepers benefit from my set Acc bonuses or do I need to slot Acc to hit +3/+4 mobs?

Thanks for taking a look at the build and commenting.

Griffyn

Griffyn · August 26, 2019

To answer the question that I posed, pets don't take advantage of set bonuses. I found someone who was slotting 5 procs in Creepers who was using the Nerve Alpha and a Boosted Ragnarok Acc/Rchg. That would cover the Acc gap especially if you were running Tactics as well.

xl8 · May 11, 2021

Can someone tell me the duration of Wild Growth and Overgrowth plz? Current version of Mids shows them as 10.25s for some reason.

Psyonico · May 11, 2021

Wild Growth - 90 seconds

Overgrowth - 60 seconds

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