Pylon Damage Thread

[SomeGuy]

1 hour ago, victusfate said:

is there one of these threads for MMs? asking for Mechabot in discord 

 

 

I honestly don't know why this thread is in this sub-forum. It should be moved to the general AT subforum since ALL ATs can, and are encouraged, to post here.

 

So this is the thread they want to post in.

 

A mod should move this thread. I've mentioned that a few times I think.

Edited August 14 by SomeGuy

[BrandX]

17 hours ago, SomeGuy said:

 

 

I honestly don't know why this thread is in this sub-forum. It should be moved to the general AT subforum since ALL ATs can, and are encouraged, to post here.

 

So this is the thread they want to post in.

 

A mod should move this thread. I've mentioned that a few times I think.

 

Changing it now would make me have to get used to looking for it elsewhere!

[Bionic_Flea]

17 hours ago, SomeGuy said:

I honestly don't know why this thread is in this sub-forum. It should be moved to the general AT subforum since ALL ATs can, and are encouraged, to post here.

 

The answer as to why it's in scrappers sub-forum is in the very first post:

 

On 5/6/2019 at 10:58 AM, Project_X said:

I don’t know how many people remember the old pylon damage test that was used to get a raw damage output for classes.  It originally started with Scrappers, but eventually other classes got involved.

 

So it's an historical artifact.

[SomeGuy]

It was moved to a more appropriate place on other forums. 

 

And I am MORE then aware of the history of this thread. I was very active in it on the NC Soft forums and the other forums. And just because something is traditionally done a certain way does not mean its best that way. *gestures broadly at the world*

 

So....I honestly don't know why this thread is in this sub-forum. It should be moved to the general AT subforum since ALL ATs can, and are encouraged, to post here.

Edited August 16 by SomeGuy

[SomeGuy]

Some updates and direct(ish) comparisons of primaries with secondaries:

 

*These are all averages. No outside buffs. Hybrid was NOT on.

 

Scrapper     CLAWS/BIO            1:05 (Degen/Enflame/MA/Char/Proc)

Scrapper     CLAWS/EA              1:37 (Degen/Char/Enflame/MA/Proc)

 

Scrapper     EM/BIO                1:09 (Degen/Enflame/MA/Char)

Scrapper     EM/RAD               1:28 (Degen/Snipe)

Scrapper     EM/ENA               1:42 (Degen/Snipe)

Scrapper     EM/SD                 1:54 (Degen/Snipe)

 

Scrapper     TW/BIO               1:06 (Degen/Enflame/MA/Char/Proc) 0:52 (Reactive/MA/pre-nerf)

Scrapper     TW/ENA              1:26 (Degen/Char/MA/Enflame/Proc)

 

Scrapper     DB/BIO               1:13 (Degen/Enflame/Melt Armor/RoF/Proc)

Scrapper     DB/STN              1:17 (Degen/Enflame/Melt Armor/RoF/Proc)

Scrapper     DB/ENA              1:26 (Degen/Enflame/Melt Armor/RoF/Proc)

Scrapper     DB/RAD              1:43 (Degen/Moonbeam/Proc)

 

Observations: Sets like Energy Melee and Dark Melee benefit no where near as well as other sets with types of damage like SL when it comes to procs. TW is a VERY powerful primary still, it just requires a LOT of recharge for a good chain to work. It also requires a decent amount of proc management and very fast ability to pivot when things don't go ideally. DB is a very versatile set. If you have a lot of recharge then you can just do a 3 attack rotation (BF - AS - SS - Snipe/RoF). If not, the Empower chain is really good also (NS - AS - BF - SS - SNIPE)

Edited August 25 by SomeGuy

[SomeGuy]

Dominator     Ill/Son     1:30 (Degen/Muscle/Sleet) Shriek - Scream - Shriek - Shout - Earsplitter - Ice Storm

 

The focus was Shriek - Scream - Shriek - Shout to maximize -RES for the pets. I imagine any personal DPS contributions like ES would be a wasted cast time once your teammates hit a certain number (which wouldn't be many). I did a BS run with Lore out and got well under 30s. Just...silly.

 

AFK-Dom (Perrma Dom without Hasten)

 

Average. No outside buffs. Hybrid was NOT on.

 

This took some playing around with to get the time down.

 

 

 

https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1658&c=709&a=1418&f=HEX&dc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
 

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 09:23 PM by SomeGuy

[SomeGuy]

This was interesting. Cross Punch is crazy DPS boost. I mean, I knew that, but damn.

 

Brute     TW/ElA     2:54 (Degen/Gloom) *2:14 (Reactive/MA/pre-nerf)

Brute     SS/ElA      4:17 (Degen/Gloom) KO-CP-HM-GL 5:16 (Degen/Gloom) KO-HM-GL-PUNCH

 

TW/ELA

https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1808&c=773&a=1546&f=HEX&dc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

 

SS/ELE with Cross Punch

https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1655&c=719&a=1438&f=HEX&dc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

 

SS/ELE

https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1655&c=719&a=1438&f=HEX&dc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

 

 

[SomeGuy]

Average for the ELE/TW tanker finally:

 

Tanker       ELA/TW              3:47 (Degen/Gloom)

 

Brute for comparison:

 

Brute        TW/ElA                2:54 (Degen/Gloom) 

 

ELA/TW Tanker Build:

 

https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1658&c=737&a=1474&f=HEX&dc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

Edited Friday at 04:27 PM by SomeGuy

[SomeGuy]

More Brutes and a Tanker: 

 

Brute        EM/FA                2:18 (Gloom/Degen) TF - FE - BU- ET - BURN - GL

Tanker      FA/EM                3:13 (Degen/Gloom) TF - FE - BU- ET - BURN - GL

 

Brute EM/FA Build:

https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1669&c=721&a=1442&f=HEX&dc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

 

Tanker EM/FA Build:

https://api.midsreborn.com/legacy/download?uc=1670&c=738&a=1476&f=HEX&dc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

 

 

Brute        SS/FA                 2:33 (Degen/Gloom) KO - Burn - GL- HM - CP

Brute        SS/ElA                4:17 (Degen/Gloom) KO-CP-HM-GL 5:16 (Degen/Gloom) KO-HM-GL-PUNCH

 

Brute SS/FA Build:

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Super Strength is a really crappy performer if Rage gets nerfed again. The attacks in it's primary need some really big adjustments if Rage gets nerfed again. It only has one good attack in the ST chain

 

 

Edited Friday at 11:05 PM by SomeGuy

[SomeGuy]

Just ran an interesting data collection with my ELA/TW tanker and TW/ELE brute.

 

Set at +4/x8. Just killed Council Empire in a repeatable mission where they mainly do  SL damage. Timed them both to get to 5 bars of XP. Most groups had about two bosses. 

 

Brute is SL Res hard capped and SL defense soft capped. Tanker is SL Res hard capped and around 35% SL defense.

 

Brute: 7:14

Tanker: 6:53

 

These times are way to close to account for RNG (and neither build is proc heavy anyways) since I did NOT do multiple runs for an average.

 

These are brainless to kill mobs. No debuffs or very strong attacks. The tanker would easily excel anywhere else.

 

*BTW, has anyone else noticed more runners and mobs hanging back out of melee since the last patch?

 

 

Edited Saturday at 04:38 AM by SomeGuy

[SomeGuy]

I like Broadsword.

 

I did a few BS/BIO runs with a build...not something I'd venture out solo with. Honestly, I'm really confident I can whip something together that would be playable solo. But, until then...

 

Scrapper     BS/BIO     1:08 (Degen/Enflame/Melt Armor/RoF/Proc)

 

This build is pretty darn legit. If I didn't already have a BS/SD I already really enjoy I'd do this:

 

Scrapper     BS/EA     1:45 (Degen/Enflame/Melt Armor/RoF/Proc) HS - Hack - Dis- RoF

 

BS is pretty darn consistent I am noticing. 

 

 

 

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Edited Sunday at 01:47 AM by SomeGuy